THRONE AND LIBERTY

THRONE AND LIBERTY

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thalx Sep 30, 2024 @ 4:06am
Game is already dead in Korea
"While results for TL in the domestic market have been disappointing, the game is still set to be released through Amazon Games in 2Q24 after CBT in 1Q24."
https://www.businesskorea.co.kr/news/articleView.html?idxno=209225

They have merged from 22 to 8 servers, and now announced the merger to 3 servers.
Sounds like NW - great fun to level up and gear up and then it gets boring fast.
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Sharrayzen Sep 30, 2024 @ 4:08am 
Depending how it takes in the West, it could go down that path. I enjoy Tyrant's Isle. The mechanics are actually pretty fun in dungeons. Nowhere near Lost Ark in complexity - I wish it gets there. For this game to succeed, in my opinion, is it needs to also tap into engaging co-op dungeons and raids. Otherwise? It'll remain a niche PvP game and probably burn out.
FrontenStuermer Sep 30, 2024 @ 4:12am 
Originally posted by thalx:
"While results for TL in the domestic market have been disappointing, the game is still set to be released through Amazon Games in 2Q24 after CBT in 1Q24."
https://www.businesskorea.co.kr/news/articleView.html?idxno=209225

They have merged from 22 to 8 servers, and now announced the merger to 3 servers.
Sounds like NW - great fun to level up and gear up and then it gets boring fast.

Bringing out a game with a mixed style of pvpve and called it a new thing for motivation is a shoot in the head.

Today players wanna pvp only in arenas, events if they can flag and nothing others.
Most wanna play pve with dungeons, raids, world bosses and others from my experience and in best case a good crafting system.

I told a girlfriend before release that i dont assume this game will have a good success with players.
TEAM SALTY Sep 30, 2024 @ 4:17am 
This game has no chance of taking off in the west as it is primarly a guild vs guild pvp game, a very niche interest in the west. TL is the next lineage in all but name; pvp, grind, p2w. Whether or not it will last past first year depends how much money people will spend on the shop purchases.
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Brahson Sep 30, 2024 @ 4:36am 
this game will be good for a few weeks, just enjoy it for what it is (a free MMO)
侍Kage Sep 30, 2024 @ 4:36am 
They changed a lot of things for west, it died in korea because it was not for korean people. However for west and changes they done, this game will be popular for a long time.
Last edited by 侍Kage; Sep 30, 2024 @ 4:37am
Mono Sep 30, 2024 @ 4:37am 
Because the endgame consists of large scale pvp which as always get's whittled down over 6 months or so to 2 groups, once the 2 groups get bored fighting just each other all the time the guild losing moves onto the next thing leaving the dominating group, they get bored and leave, servers start dying and getting merged then eventually the game dies, it's not a great business model considering the vast majority of mmorpg players play solo or with a few friends, ask New World PVPers how it goes i this kind of endgame content.
Ironside Sep 30, 2024 @ 4:45am 
I enjoy the game because I do not have expectations. The problem people have is they mind screw themselves before they even play it. It's just a game, play it that way and not worry about everything and everyone else. The shop literally have nothing in it... The real disaster is the Auction house. Players*** ruin the market and economy with asking $400 worth of lucent for 1 item. This turns players off!! and no one buys the stuff. The Shop does not do predatory stuff like this, the players do. I think they should close the AH and only allow in guild trading.
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Sharrayzen Sep 30, 2024 @ 4:47am 
Game has to lock in on great PvE content to succeed is my opinion. Co-Op Dungeons and Raiding content could do it well. It literally just needs to have Lost Ark similar content for PvE to sell it completely for me. Every day I just get closer to rejoining Lost Ark...
Sargathanas Sep 30, 2024 @ 4:49am 
not p2w enough for KR (:
IIIIIIIIIII Sep 30, 2024 @ 4:52am 
Originally posted by Ironside:
I enjoy the game because I do not have expectations. The problem people have is they mind screw themselves before they even play it. It's just a game, play it that way and not worry about everything and everyone else. The shop literally have nothing in it... The real disaster is the Auction house. Players*** ruin the market and economy with asking $400 worth of lucent for 1 item. This turns players off!! and no one buys the stuff. The Shop does not do predatory stuff like this, the players do. I think they should close the AH and only allow in guild trading.

kidding? ncsoft korea designed the real-money auction house that takes a 22% premium currency cut—that's worse than the 19% VAT i pay in real life. i'd rather be taxed by the government.

the whole system integration is up to the korean devs

... don’t even get me started on the other stuff, or what's coming in the cash shop from kr
Last edited by IIIIIIIIIII; Sep 30, 2024 @ 4:55am
OneAngryVet Sep 30, 2024 @ 5:05am 
Originally posted by Ironside:
I enjoy the game because I do not have expectations. The problem people have is they mind screw themselves before they even play it. It's just a game, play it that way and not worry about everything and everyone else. The shop literally have nothing in it... The real disaster is the Auction house. Players*** ruin the market and economy with asking $400 worth of lucent for 1 item. This turns players off!! and no one buys the stuff. The Shop does not do predatory stuff like this, the players do. I think they should close the AH and only allow in guild trading.

Or fix the AH with a fixed economy or cap on items. (BDO) Which could very well happen. The in guild trading only doesn't work because someone will join a guild just to pay for an item then leave. That has never worked in any game. (ESO) Your just asking for RMT at that point. The taxes from the sale taken out of any transaction in the game however are all put into the siege booty from the way I am understanding it which is interesting because that is an incentive to do it. It has a pve and pvp world boss rotation which is interesting mechanic. I like that there is caps on dungeons and that by doing those you generate a resource that gives bonuses to open world dungeons which also become pvp zones during night phase. There is always something to do.
shabanotti Sep 30, 2024 @ 5:34am 
I have hopes that it will live a bit longer and get better with time, because I like some parts of the game and I want a new good MMO, but I also fear that this game is just not that new MMO. My biggest concern is that the good changes just won't come quick enough and people will get bored/annoyed. We'll see...

Time will tell.
Eido Sep 30, 2024 @ 5:42am 
Typical behavior of solo/PvE fans - a lot of players at the start, get bored after a month and go looking for a new game, nothing new.
Edstyles Sep 30, 2024 @ 5:47am 
and you guys paid for early access knowing it will fail? :D
SayneX Sep 30, 2024 @ 5:50am 
I just start blocking people with negative troll post. It makes looking for post so much easier once you block the main culprits. OP got blocked after this message lol.
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