people already pay 300-400$ per one item

[soul like that be capable of]

ya this all i need to know . literally 400$ i see on streams people pay for one item. this level of pay to win its just 1st few days .

[Q]

nothing wrong with that, its a korean mmo, 400 is peanuts compared to all the money a good whale invest in few months.

[Kyutaru]

More than that. Guy on the official discord already bought two swords for over $900 each.

That's how it goes. You should be thankful because unlike other p2w games with fixed prices, these prices will lower over time as people obtain them. Eventually it will be possible for you to afford some of these items for a fraction of that cost. Of course, the prices will definitely plummet when new gear comes out and whales chase those items instead.

As long as you're cool with not being #1 or even top 1000, this won't matter for long. Just like video games, some people can afford to buy them day 1. Others wait for them to go on sale.

[HazeyC]

yeah milka you should be "thankful" lul. shut up and enjoy being fodder

[Chelios]

Originally posted by Kyutaru:

More than that. Guy on the official discord already bought two swords for over $900 each.

That's how it goes. You should be thankful because unlike other p2w games with fixed prices, these prices will lower over time as people obtain them. Eventually it will be possible for you to afford some of these items for a fraction of that cost. Of course, the prices will definitely plummet when new gear comes out and whales chase those items instead.

As long as you're cool with not being #1 or even top 1000, this won't matter for long. Just like video games, some people can afford to buy them day 1. Others wait for them to go on sale.

Lol. I like that you've justified every angle of it for your personal wellbeing

[David]

I could

Originally posted by Kyutaru:

More than that. Guy on the official discord already bought two swords for over $900 each.

That's how it goes. You should be thankful because unlike other p2w games with fixed prices, these prices will lower over time as people obtain them. Eventually it will be possible for you to afford some of these items for a fraction of that cost. Of course, the prices will definitely plummet when new gear comes out and whales chase those items instead.

As long as you're cool with not being #1 or even top 1000, this won't matter for long. Just like video games, some people can afford to buy them day 1. Others wait for them to go on sale.

I would rather use 1800 dollars buying shares of an ETF. At least I will have value.

[Q]

you guys dont get it
this game just like lineage and other korean mmos are aimed to mid-upper class ppl who can spend thousands of dollars easily, 400, 900 bucks, 5000 is nothing, there are many whales like that in korean mmos. The casual folk, the f2p folk they are just there to make em company to give whales a practice target, one of em is worth hundreds or even thousands of casual players.

[Startroopian]

Games used to be games.... Now the players have become the game IRL

[Kyutaru]

Originally posted by David:

I would rather use 1800 dollars buying shares of an ETF. At least I will have value.

Yep. Though some people also spend that much on a pair of Balenciaga shoes. You would think it's some rich doctor doing it too but nope, according to the news reports, it's normal people just wanting to own something cool and feeding into the brand fame. Normal people are also the ones who throw $3000+ at a gacha game when they really can't afford it. Actual whales spend waaaaaaaaaaay more than that.

People buy ice cream every summer. It has no practical value. It's an overpriced consumable that has no health value. Yet people still do it. Heck, the revenue numbers on the fast food industry make me cringe. People, you do realize actually healthy food is cheaper now, right? We're past feeding your entire family for $10.

TL:DR - There are practical purchases people should be buying... and then there's all the junk they actually buy. Everyone's addiction is different, but they all buy things they really shouldn't.

[soul like that be capable of]

i did little looking around since it PvP and PvE basically ya PvE a F2P prob have 0 chances . seems like Diablo immortal all over again but KR style. i will try it but prob quit as fast as i try it haha . its kinda already seems not for me all this

[IIIIIIIIIII]

no we are gamers –simple people. instead we would buy:

Baldur's Gate 3
The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom
Final Fantasy VII Rebirth
Like a Dragon: Infinite Wealth
Helldivers 2
Sons of the Forest
Ultros
Prince of Persia: The Lost Crown
WWE 2K24
Hogwarts Legacy
Diablo IV
Resident Evil 4 (Remake)
Cyberpunk 2077: Phantom Liberty
Assassin’s Creed Mirage
Armored Core VI: Fires of Rubicon
Lies of P
Street Fighter 6
Marvel’s Spider-Man 2
Octopath Traveler II
Dead Space (Remake)
Atomic Heart
Monster Hunter Rise
Forza Horizon 5
Hollow Knight: Silksong
A Plague Tale: Requiem
The Callisto Protocol
Final Fantasy XVI
F1 23
Baldur's Gate 2
Gran Turismo 7
Ghostwire: Tokyo
Dying Light 2 Stay Human
Tiny Tina's Wonderlands
Sifu
Returnal
Elden Ring + DLC
The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt (Next-Gen Update)
Hades
No Man's Sky
Celeste
Spiritfarer
The Outer Worlds
Factorio
Stardew Valley
RimWorld
Hades II
Valheim
Ark: Survival Evolved

+ new gaming rig

[ThisBrown Man]

Oh no! Anywayss.....

I'm still playing when the game comes out. I will spend my money on skins, instead of fake power level that you can earn by playing the game.

[KrazeKing]

im confused, people can use their time to farm gear and keep it or sell it. If they sell it, people who have less time can choose to buy it, right?

Gear sold/bought won't be maxed out and still needs to be leveled right?

I kinda see this like buying runs in WoW for gold/irl money. Prices are crazy rn because of launch but surely they would be reduced later?

[Kyutaru]

Originally posted by ThisBrown Man:

Oh no! Anywayss.....

I'm still playing when the game comes out. I will spend my money on skins, instead of fake power level that you can earn by playing the game.

That's the thing. You can't earn it by playing the game. The top tier loot will be only accessible to guilds strong enough to seize it competitively from other guilds attempting to get the same loot. So unless you're in a top guild, you will never see this loot anywhere except the auction house.

[Strives]

Ok seeya? Idk why people acting like p2w isnt the norm by now. You can literally buy gold in WoW.

[HazeyC]

Originally posted by KrazeKing:

im confused, people can use their time to farm gear and keep it or sell it. If they sell it, people who have less time can choose to buy it, right?

Gear sold/bought won't be maxed out and still needs to be leveled right?

I kinda see this like buying runs in WoW for gold/irl money. Prices are crazy rn because of launch but surely they would be reduced later?

nothing like wow, you cant buy pvp power at all in retail wow pvp. you actually have to grind out the honor/conquest by pvping there is no other way to obtain it. people buying runs in wow are usually buying aotc, max vault mythic runs which isnt going to win you anything but standing around in the capital sooner and getting kicked from real mythic groups.

classic on the other hand does have some p2w on the rmt side but 400+ would get you pretty damn far and there is nothing beyond t3 and in some cases isnt even bis for pvp.