Pay to win?

[pheNOM]

Is it?

[OldManSaxon]

as much as any other korean mmo, im lvl 25 so far havn't felt the need to spend money. feels kinda like lost ark, more like pay to advance to endgame faster.

[Firecam]

Of course. Doubting this in 2024 ?

[raT]

F2P Korean GAme. no dog its pure game

[New Acc in Description]

Yes. Apparently 5 months of grind equals spending 300 bucks ingame

[JL]

yeah its p2w

[dtrain77scots]

no its not p2w think about it most people will play for free its only 20 bucks for both passes its not pay to win people just want a free product

[Emil]

As far as I know it's not P2W (Pay 2 Win). You can still get the gear which paying players receive. It's more of a matter of P2B (Pay 2 Boost). Ornate coins are needed to upgrade your gear and you can buy those from the shop. The bigger issue is the focus on guilds as a lone player in late game, as you will be locked out of receiving items if your guild master is a whale or unfair. So get into a good guild and level up and you'll do fine as a free player, albeit a heavier grind.

[Blackghost]

no

[Leonixx]

As all streamers said,. "u can be better like +3 % of all by paying big money, but that 3% didnt make it harder :) "

[Taemek]

Originally posted by pheNOM:

Is it?

No, it is not.

[Stockwerk 13]

40-100$ Founder Pack
10$ Leveling Pass
10$ BattlePass
~50-100$ Litograph Book

~50-100$ per month to be on top of regular gear
~300$ - 1700$ per archweapon carry (better google prices before picking ur weapons)

https://www.reddit.com/r/throneandliberty/comments/1e9p5n2/how_expensive_is_a_arch_weapon_boss_in_kr/

+cosmetics
+morphs and amitois etc.

with many, many more pay2win systems and mechanics allready in the korean version of the game, with amazon "evaluating" them to add later in our version

[Celdinumbra]

Pretty much yes, but they give you the option to not win by not paying :)
The free to play player can basically farm the same stuff that a whale can get with swiping, but it will take them a lot of time since most of the farmable content is gated (think of this like energy in a mobile game). By the time the free player finishes upgrading his gear and catches up to the whale, better options were already added into the game. This means that while in theory its doable, you don't really get to enjoy the labor of your hard work for too long or not at all...then you also have the endgame gear that requires being in a good (to be read large) guild that has some sort of contribution system..and i dont want to discourage you, but going against fully geared people in a f2p player rags is far from enjoyable.

[pheNOM]

pay 2 boost is pay to win. That means other players will get ahead of you and you'll lose in pvp if they spend money. Oh well, thanks anyways. I'll far pass on this garbage, then. Thanks for the info, guys.

[Rohji]

Originally posted by pheNOM:

Is it?

NCSOFT

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more like pay to advance to endgame faster.

Those are ALL under p2w category. You are paying for an advantage over someone who didn't pay. It doesn't matter if it's gold, exp, time.

Another pay to win game like NCSOFT's other mmo, Guild Wars 2 where you can buy gold directly with real cash.

Fail.