Loot distribution in guilds. Explain me something?

[rocka]

There are 3 different loot distro methods set by the guild leader:

1. Loot dropped by open world bosses immediately goes into the guild bank (rarity threshold also set by GL).

2. Loot dropped by bosses goes into guild bank after 5 mins. The person who got the drop can claim it before 5 mins is up if they choose.

3. Loot dropped always goes to the individual who looted it.

Is this something that the guild leader can change at will? Can he change it during fighting specific boss? Theoretically speaking if the loot is set to number 3, is there a chance even slightest that you never get ANY good loot from the bosses? Will most of the players just pray that they get in good and honest guild or just form their own with their friends? I assume not every guild out there will be honest.

[Firecam]

The god leader will always take the loot, then decide what to do with it. Unless he gives or sell it to you, you won't be able to get one. He can simply ninja everything if he so desire. So yes, pray that you get an average player and not a tryhard.

Edit : he can also sell the item at the AH and decide how many party members will share the lucents.

[Exteel-Gunz-Online]

Originally posted by Firecam:

The god leader will always take the loot, then decide what to do with it. Unless he gives or sell it to you, you won't be able to get one. He can simply ninja everything if he so desire. So yes, pray that you get an average player and not a tryhard.

Edit : he can also sell the item at the AH and decide how many party members will share the lucents.

that's crazy.. giving guild leaders that much power of the game's best items is insane

[Firecam]

Originally posted by Exteel-Gunz-Online:

Originally posted by Firecam:

The god leader will always take the loot, then decide what to do with it. Unless he gives or sell it to you, you won't be able to get one. He can simply ninja everything if he so desire. So yes, pray that you get an average player and not a tryhard.

Edit : he can also sell the item at the AH and decide how many party members will share the lucents.

that's crazy.. giving guild leaders that much power of the game's best items is insane

It sure does, when you know about gamers in general there's no way it doesn't get exploited.

[rocka]

Originally posted by Firecam:

Originally posted by Exteel-Gunz-Online:

that's crazy.. giving guild leaders that much power of the game's best items is insane

It sure does, when you know about gamers in general there's no way it doesn't get exploited.

And I have to play in guild in order to kill the bosses and get loot, otherwise I just wont be able to kill them. But if I play in guild I may not get loot at all if the guild leader decide so. I don't understand how this ♥♥♥♥ exists.

[Firecam]

Beside making your own there's nothing you can do.

[Jay Rupp]

Originally posted by rocka:

Originally posted by Firecam:

It sure does, when you know about gamers in general there's no way it doesn't get exploited.

And I have to play in guild in order to kill the bosses and get loot, otherwise I just wont be able to kill them. But if I play in guild I may not get loot at all if the guild leader decide so. I don't understand how this ♥♥♥♥ exists.

Believe it or a not there's a lot of crayon eating idiots who try to defend this nonsense.

[Ironside]

the guild loot system breeds toxicity. Whoever thought of this system thinks too much of humanity.

[Steve Jobs]

If anyone's interested though, I've got a guild, friendly and I've no problem giving the loot to those who need it most for their build, Most people in the guild are happy to give up drops that they're not specifically after if it means someone else will get more use out of it. Basilisk server HMU. All loot we get (unless its a repeat item that no one wants) goes to the members,

[Disgruntled Democracy Officer]

Originally posted by Steve Jobs:

If anyone's interested though, I've got a guild, friendly and I've no problem giving the loot to those who need it most for their build, Most people in the guild are happy to give up drops that they're not specifically after if it means someone else will get more use out of it. Basilisk server HMU. All loot we get (unless its a repeat item that no one wants) goes to the members,

selling for lucent is whats desired...

[Weedachu]

Oh yeah try getting the world boss drop item... 1st attempt. No one in the guild online and they opt to sell it. Stupid Greedy... It actually dropped for me.

So now I got to stay in a guild with stupid loot rules to see what happens with the item.. 20 DAYS. I'M A GS USER give me my sword....

[fefnir3284]

Worse system ever. You will never see a guild with a leader that doesnt ninja everything for themselves and their thug friends if they can.

[Bryan Fury]

Originally posted by fefnir3284:

Worse system ever. You will never see a guild with a leader that doesnt ninja everything for themselves and their thug friends if they can.

"wave hand"

Here i am. A rarity of a Clan Leader, from a long experienced path in mmorpgs...

I always distribute based on activity/presence and have a rule of "priority" based on the fact that i try to help all my members in my Can to allow them to have at least the basic piece for their build and then distribute all based on dicerolls after that when someone ask for it.

We have a Discord, a Telegram channel and so on to manage these things.

It is not that hard. It is not the system that is bad but the players behind it.

Find a trustworthy Clan and stick with it. Don't blame the Clan system. It is perfectly fine.

[ministrog]

part of the fun in mmo's is going through a bunch of lousy guilds until you find a solid home.

[fefnir3284]

Originally posted by Bryan Fury:

Originally posted by fefnir3284:

Worse system ever. You will never see a guild with a leader that doesnt ninja everything for themselves and their thug friends if they can.

"wave hand"

Here i am. A rarity of a Clan Leader, from a long experienced path in mmorpgs...

I always distribute based on activity/presence and have a rule of "priority" based on the fact that i try to help all my members in my Can to allow them to have at least the basic piece for their build and then distribute all based on dicerolls after that when someone ask for it.

We have a Discord, a Telegram channel and so on to manage these things.

It is not that hard. It is not the system that is bad but the players behind it.

Find a trustworthy Clan and stick with it. Don't blame the Clan system. It is perfectly fine.

As nice as you sound, you are still a problem. Based on 'priority"? Who determines that? You? Whom the loot drops for THEY GET IT, period, full stop. Now if they want to donate it, then and ONLY THEN would your description work.

I have been screwed over for years and years. Top ranked tank in wow during LK, and in nearly a decade never saw a good guild leader last. They either leave due to all the complaining by everyone, was a snake all along, or stepped down and a con man got leadership and instantly turned snake. Ten years of exp exhausted any faith I will ever have in guilds.

[Skillo]

Originally posted by fefnir3284:

Worse system ever. You will never see a guild with a leader that doesnt ninja everything for themselves and their thug friends if they can.

While i definitely don't like the appeal, this is also very unfair. This system is simply a simplified version of what other more hardcore MMOs do, through the use of DKP and whatnot. The guild loot setting simply puts all the items on a easily accessible interface which can be destributed to members or even auctioned. Within the context of a dedicated guild which intends to gear up everyone and provide drops according to performance and dedication, its undeniably very useful. And i believe that the vast majority of top guilds make use of it.

A more useful criticism would be saying that the fact that you can't check loot policy before joining should be changed. When looking for a guild you have to check what type of content you want to play, a guild that is in line with your level of commitment and what they expect from you. So being able to easily filter out these differences like how the loot is distributed is very important.

Its also important to send a notification to every player mail when this setting changes, to avoid problems.

The comment above is a clear example of using your own expectations against guild expectations that definitely do not match yours. They check performance and who needs the most, and its obviously defined by leaders and advisors. don't like it? Join another guild...its that simple.