THRONE AND LIBERTY

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Be a Healer is Pain
I started playing as Tank, worked good so far. But then i switched to healer and its fun BUT other players are so extreme Toxic

People ignoring every dungeon Mechanic existing, get insta killed and blame healer with "wHy nO HeAL?!11?"

They stay straight in front of Mob or Boss, without moving any foot or stun heavier Mobs before they make heavy attack. Only smashing button and think healer can heal insta kills. Its Insane.. what is this xD

Now i understand when i played Tank, why I have to wait minutes before Healer role is found for dungeon.
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[LZ]Icy Oct 26, 2024 @ 7:35am 
Jup , Humanity really devolved
Buddha Oct 26, 2024 @ 7:48am 
Try PVP in the arena. It's fun as a healer. Not.
Chapel Oct 26, 2024 @ 7:56am 
Truth, even look at these forums. You are almost always instantly attacked for not being a sheep and saying all the right things in their minds.

I was kicked from a grp the other day for explaining the end boss fight to a new player because I was "wasting time". The entire grp disbanded after that because everyone though the kick was stupid and left. But who even thinks, "Kick x player" for helping.
Eido Oct 26, 2024 @ 8:00am 
For the same reason people don't like PvP, if they are bad at it they don't do well then they say PvP is stupid. So if they die because of their own lack of skill then they have to blame someone in this case it's helear...
Last edited by Eido; Oct 26, 2024 @ 8:01am
Buddha Oct 26, 2024 @ 8:15am 
Originally posted by Eido:
For the same reason people don't like PvP, if they are bad at it they don't do well then they say PvP is stupid. So if they die because of their own lack of skill then they have to blame someone in this case it's helear...
The game isn't skill-based; it's gear-based, meaning that someone who buys gear has an advantage. I play exclusively as a healer, and in the arena with random players, I'm always the target. Basically, you get stunned and are dead in less than half a second. I wonder how you're supposed to avoid that with skill. The only way is with gear that maybe has stun resistance or lots of HP, but you either have to grind for it for an extremely long time or just buy it. Either way, skill doesn’t have much to do with the game in the arena, at least not as a healer.
Schnipps Oct 26, 2024 @ 8:16am 
welcome to healing in any mmo ever
Darth_Angeal Oct 26, 2024 @ 8:19am 
Originally posted by Buddha:
Originally posted by Eido:
For the same reason people don't like PvP, if they are bad at it they don't do well then they say PvP is stupid. So if they die because of their own lack of skill then they have to blame someone in this case it's helear...
The game isn't skill-based; it's gear-based, meaning that someone who buys gear has an advantage. I play exclusively as a healer, and in the arena with random players, I'm always the target. Basically, you get stunned and are dead in less than half a second. I wonder how you're supposed to avoid that with skill. The only way is with gear that maybe has stun resistance or lots of HP, but you either have to grind for it for an extremely long time or just buy it. Either way, skill doesn’t have much to do with the game in the arena, at least not as a healer.

You´ve weapons with perks that´ll save you.
You should have a tank in your team saving you.
There is a potion to negate the most cc with 2min cooldown.
And so on...


Poeople who focus a good healer in Arena-PvP will lose, because some glascannon in your team will kill them meanwhile.

Also you can sell stuff you farmed and buy gear on your own. It doesn´t even have to be BiS to be useful in this game.

Git gud issue imo.
Buddha Oct 26, 2024 @ 8:23am 
Originally posted by Darth_Angeal:
Originally posted by Buddha:
The game isn't skill-based; it's gear-based, meaning that someone who buys gear has an advantage. I play exclusively as a healer, and in the arena with random players, I'm always the target. Basically, you get stunned and are dead in less than half a second. I wonder how you're supposed to avoid that with skill. The only way is with gear that maybe has stun resistance or lots of HP, but you either have to grind for it for an extremely long time or just buy it. Either way, skill doesn’t have much to do with the game in the arena, at least not as a healer.

You´ve weapons with perks that´ll save you.
You should have a tank in your team saving you.
There is a potion to negate the most cc with 2min cooldown.
And so on...


Poeople who focus a good healer in Arena-PvP will lose, because some glascannon in your team will kill them meanwhile.

Also you can sell stuff you farmed and buy gear on your own. It doesn´t even have to be BiS to be useful in this game.

Git gud issue imo.
As I already said, it's gear-based, and you're just confirming that. You're not "gud" just because you have a weapon that can save you from a stun; you still have to find and upgrade that weapon, as I already mentioned. I also talked about playing with randoms, so you often don’t have a tank in the group to help out because there’s no coordination like you’d have with friends or guild members. On top of that, I'm not the tank, so my skill doesn’t determine whether I survive or not, as I’m dependent on the tank's skill, which only reinforces my point. Using a potion at the right moment doesn’t have much to do with skill either.

And even if I don’t get stunned, I still need good gear that gives me enough HP to survive the damage that comes pouring in seconds after the round starts, as three people immediately focus on the healer. This once again reinforces my point that the game is gear-based, not skill-based, at least not as a healer.


Could you provide any other arguments that might convince me otherwise?
Last edited by Buddha; Oct 26, 2024 @ 8:27am
⎝ Miller ⎠ Oct 26, 2024 @ 8:25am 
Originally posted by Schnipps:
welcome to healing in any mmo ever
Not true I can make macros in wow to use said skill @player which is me or @targettarget to heal the enemy target or to attack the heal targets target or @mouseover so I don't have to target players and the range is much better. Do you know even lineage2 had macros lol
Ducky Oct 26, 2024 @ 9:02am 
pvp is totaly bs anyways in this game...only stunlock to death no skill required
Buddha Oct 26, 2024 @ 9:06am 
Originally posted by Ducky:
pvp is totaly bs anyways in this game...only stunlock to death no skill required
That's what I'm saying. Anyone who claims the game is skill-based is fooling themselves. Stun, dead. That’s it. At best, the items have an influence, but how much skill do you really need in this game? Activating the right skill at the right time? In the end, the one with the better gear wins, and that's a fact. There’s no way to sugarcoat that.
Originally posted by Eido:
For the same reason people don't like PvP, if they are bad at it they don't do well then they say PvP is stupid. So if they die because of their own lack of skill then they have to blame someone in this case it's helear...

There is this dungeon Temple of slaughter. Mechanic: If boss targeting you, you cant move and he shoots 3 heavy dmg firebals at you. If this happen, someone has to tank the fireballs.

Me (the healer) was targeted, no one tanked the fireballs.. i die. Guess whos fault it was, that i (the healer) die and everyone else after that.. yes healer (my) fault haha
Ducky Oct 26, 2024 @ 9:31am 
Originally posted by Eido:
For the same reason people don't like PvP, if they are bad at it they don't do well then they say PvP is stupid. So if they die because of their own lack of skill then they have to blame someone in this case it's helear...

There is this dungeon Temple of slaughter. Mechanic: If boss targeting you, you cant move and he shoots 3 heavy dmg firebals at you. If this happen, someone has to tank the fireballs.

Me (the healer) was targeted, no one tanked the fireballs.. i die. Guess whos fault it was, that i (the healer) die and everyone else after that.. yes healer (my) fault haha
yeah or when your heal skills are on cd and cant heal peoples say you are not a healer you are dd and do dmg xD
Ducky Oct 26, 2024 @ 9:33am 
if this game wouldnt have any stuns,knockdowns etc. in pvp they all would cry mimimi healer unkillable mimimi healer godlike
Spize Oct 26, 2024 @ 9:35am 
I'm not a healer but I feel you, I've seen how badly healers are treated in dungeons when it's just the players that don't even know the mechanics lol
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Date Posted: Oct 26, 2024 @ 7:32am
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