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When will you fix the game?
- When are you going to balance the classes and fix the Zerg meta that dominates the entire game? There is nothing you can do in PvP against CC staking + macro. It doesn't matter how many CP you have. It doesn't matter how good and skilled a veteran MMO player you are. In PvP you are a freekill for Zerg. Especially if you are playing mage. You will be killed before you can even press any key.

- When will you fix bot and script problems? Why don't you ban bot accounts even though they are reported?

- Why do you allow a tryhard guild to open 6-7 sub-guilds on a server and allow all these guilds to ally with each other? In conflict zones and mass wars, these guilds are friendly to each other and cannot attack, so they can easily dominate other guilds in PvP/GvG. What is the purpose of leaving the entire server under the control of one guild, making nothing obtainable for other guilds? That's why many guilds switch to other servers or quit the game. Are you planning to do anything about this?

- When will moderation come to world chat? You allow hate speech, insults, swearing, humiliation, disgusting and perverted speech, everything. In a global game played by people of all ages and cultures, why is there no control over chat? Why aren't the people we report punished?

- Why isn't there an endgame for solo players? Why would you make a system that forces players to join a guild and do PvP? Not everyone wants to play like this.

- Why do we have to play the game the way you want? Why can't we play the way we want? We have limited daily contracts and limited access to co-op dungeons. There is a limited token system for dropping items from open dungeons. All PvE content is limited. Once the daily rights are used, there is nothing left to do in the game. Events are a complete waste of time because they have no benefit to the player, they are boring and meaningless. Can't you just set us free and play as we want?
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76561198849574518 Oct 17, 2024 @ 12:11am 
Totally agree !
LAntorcha Oct 17, 2024 @ 12:16am 
I agree with some topics you brought, but you can recharge Contract rights or take extra contracts. The token cap on dungeons and caves is to prevent grinding.

Lacking of moderation and scripting is lame, you are right.

The guild diplomacy it's a fraud.
Last edited by LAntorcha; Oct 17, 2024 @ 12:17am
SkFy Oct 17, 2024 @ 12:20am 
Agree just don't care what people say in world chat, if they annoy me i just block them it's that easy :s And kids shouldn't play games where they chat with strangers anyway, it's the parents job not a game company's job..

But they should definitely start with removing the restrictions.
It's the dumbest thing ever.. if they worried we finish the content to soon how about they just add a hard mode of the same dungeon with a new copy paste set with a diff color rofl.
Not like they didn't already do that in every game they ever made, why stop now.
SkFy Oct 17, 2024 @ 12:22am 
Originally posted by LAntorcha:
I agree with some topics you brought, but you can recharge Contract rights or take extra contracts. The token cap on dungeons and caves is to prevent grinding.

Lacking of moderation and scripting is lame, you are right.

The guild diplomacy it's a fraud.
Even with those extra contracts it's just not much lol
You also need like 30 tokens to farm a single mob in those open world dungeons :/ one of those contracts you can drop is literally 1.5mobs worth of tokens and if you're lucky you can farm 1 each 2 hours
LAntorcha Oct 17, 2024 @ 12:26am 
Disolve unwanted green contracts, and make blues...
iamtrippingballz Oct 17, 2024 @ 12:31am 
Originally posted by LAntorcha:
I agree with some topics you brought, but you can recharge Contract rights or take extra contracts. The cap is to prevent grinding.

Lacking of moderation and scripting is lame, you are right.

The guild diplomacy it's a fraud.

Instead of preventing grinding, why don't they reduce the chance of item drops and free the player? Shouldn't the player who puts more time and effort into the game be rewarded? Isn't grinding an essential element of every MMO? To obtain recharge tokens, you need to do an allied contract or resistance contract. But as I said, it is limited :) Apart from that, there is a chance of dropping an allied contract when killing mobs or opening a pouch. If you reset 20000 tokens, it is impossible to refill them. You need to save tokens for days without killing mobs.
Lugh Oct 17, 2024 @ 12:35am 
Originally posted by iamtrippingballz:
- When are you going to balance the classes and fix the Zerg meta that dominates the entire game? There is nothing you can do in PvP against CC staking + macro. It doesn't matter how many CP you have. It doesn't matter how good and skilled a veteran MMO player you are. In PvP you are a freekill for Zerg. Especially if you are playing mage. You will be killed before you can even press any key.

- When will you fix bot and script problems? Why don't you ban bot accounts even though they are reported?

- Why do you allow a tryhard guild to open 6-7 sub-guilds on a server and allow all these guilds to ally with each other? In conflict zones and mass wars, these guilds are friendly to each other and cannot attack, so they can easily dominate other guilds in PvP/GvG. What is the purpose of leaving the entire server under the control of one guild, making nothing obtainable for other guilds? That's why many guilds switch to other servers or quit the game. Are you planning to do anything about this?

- When will moderation come to world chat? You allow hate speech, insults, swearing, humiliation, disgusting and perverted speech, everything. In a global game played by people of all ages and cultures, why is there no control over chat? Why aren't the people we report punished?

- Why isn't there an endgame for solo players? Why would you make a system that forces players to join a guild and do PvP? Not everyone wants to play like this.

- Why do we have to play the game the way you want? Why can't we play the way we want? We have limited daily contracts and limited access to co-op dungeons. There is a limited token system for dropping items from open dungeons. All PvE content is limited. Once the daily rights are used, there is nothing left to do in the game. Events are a complete waste of time because they have no benefit to the player, they are boring and meaningless. Can't you just set us free and play as we want?
You guys should watch a video about pvp.
There is a CC removal stone you can farm, which might take a day or two.
There is other stuff and stats for PVP you can reduce stuns etc.
And take guild mates with you that buff, weak the enemy and stun them.
No one is running around like a chicken hoping to "win"..you gotta work as a team.
You can try to do it solo, but you're not the main hero here..stop having those delusions of "if i can't do it solo it sucks"
There are literally guides for pvp and how to play as mage, i have a lot of kills..as a solo staff - wand guy..
Also we have arena plays, try them out first before you go into conflict zones to practice and read your ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ skills for once.
SkFy Oct 17, 2024 @ 12:37am 
Originally posted by iamtrippingballz:
Originally posted by LAntorcha:
I agree with some topics you brought, but you can recharge Contract rights or take extra contracts. The cap is to prevent grinding.

Lacking of moderation and scripting is lame, you are right.

The guild diplomacy it's a fraud.

Instead of preventing grinding, why don't they reduce the chance of item drops and free the player? Shouldn't the player who puts more time and effort into the game be rewarded? Isn't grinding an essential element of every MMO? To obtain recharge tokens, you need to do an allied contract or resistance contract. But as I said, it is limited :) Apart from that, there is a chance of dropping an allied contract when killing mobs or opening a pouch. If you reset 20000 tokens, it is impossible to refill them. You need to save tokens for days without killing mobs.


Also they usually always make a hard mode dungeon with exactly the same mobs and set with slightly diff stats.
Not like there's no other solutions they could have used.. yet they picked the worst one of the players.
decazxx Oct 17, 2024 @ 12:41am 
Originally posted by Lugh:
Originally posted by iamtrippingballz:
- When are you going to balance the classes and fix the Zerg meta that dominates the entire game? There is nothing you can do in PvP against CC staking + macro. It doesn't matter how many CP you have. It doesn't matter how good and skilled a veteran MMO player you are. In PvP you are a freekill for Zerg. Especially if you are playing mage. You will be killed before you can even press any key.

- When will you fix bot and script problems? Why don't you ban bot accounts even though they are reported?

- Why do you allow a tryhard guild to open 6-7 sub-guilds on a server and allow all these guilds to ally with each other? In conflict zones and mass wars, these guilds are friendly to each other and cannot attack, so they can easily dominate other guilds in PvP/GvG. What is the purpose of leaving the entire server under the control of one guild, making nothing obtainable for other guilds? That's why many guilds switch to other servers or quit the game. Are you planning to do anything about this?

- When will moderation come to world chat? You allow hate speech, insults, swearing, humiliation, disgusting and perverted speech, everything. In a global game played by people of all ages and cultures, why is there no control over chat? Why aren't the people we report punished?

- Why isn't there an endgame for solo players? Why would you make a system that forces players to join a guild and do PvP? Not everyone wants to play like this.

- Why do we have to play the game the way you want? Why can't we play the way we want? We have limited daily contracts and limited access to co-op dungeons. There is a limited token system for dropping items from open dungeons. All PvE content is limited. Once the daily rights are used, there is nothing left to do in the game. Events are a complete waste of time because they have no benefit to the player, they are boring and meaningless. Can't you just set us free and play as we want?
You guys should watch a video about pvp.
There is a CC removal stone you can farm, which might take a day or two.
There is other stuff and stats for PVP you can reduce stuns etc.
And take guild mates with you that buff, weak the enemy and stun them.
No one is running around like a chicken hoping to "win"..you gotta work as a team.
You can try to do it solo, but you're not the main hero here..stop having those delusions of "if i can't do it solo it sucks"
There are literally guides for pvp and how to play as mage, i have a lot of kills..as a solo staff - wand guy..
Also we have arena plays, try them out first before you go into conflict zones to practice and read your ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ skills for once.
Guy tries to win agains zerg without cc trinket :steamhappy:
Lugh Oct 17, 2024 @ 12:41am 
Originally posted by iamtrippingballz:
Originally posted by LAntorcha:
I agree with some topics you brought, but you can recharge Contract rights or take extra contracts. The cap is to prevent grinding.

Lacking of moderation and scripting is lame, you are right.

The guild diplomacy it's a fraud.

Instead of preventing grinding, why don't they reduce the chance of item drops and free the player? Shouldn't the player who puts more time and effort into the game be rewarded? Isn't grinding an essential element of every MMO? To obtain recharge tokens, you need to do an allied contract or resistance contract. But as I said, it is limited :) Apart from that, there is a chance of dropping an allied contract when killing mobs or opening a pouch. If you reset 20000 tokens, it is impossible to refill them. You need to save tokens for days without killing mobs.
Should I do the math?
You get 500 from daily quests. 3120-5000 from Amito house. 3 dungeons per day 1500 Points.
And a few other ones like quests etc. battle pass.
Depending on where you are you can get around
7000-12000 Abyss token each day. I farm those dungeons outside daily..
You also got weekly quests and can find and craft them, you can literally if you would go hardcore, have 20k Abyss tokens EACH DAY. Not even joking..
Contracts drop outside in the world, there are even strategies of how to farm them..
You are saying "ugh it takes so many days" No, people literally get 20k per day if they want to..or at least 10k+ per day with not much effort.
3 x Dungeons take 1hour if you got a good guild team or friends..and i still have a lot of blue items.
Daily takes 5minutes..especially canina village.
Amito you can send 8 hours everytime or 1hour if you are gaming for more salt.
Contracts can be done with a group you can do 5 at the same time, so craft those you can stack..ffs..
iamtrippingballz Oct 17, 2024 @ 12:59am 
Originally posted by Lugh:
Originally posted by iamtrippingballz:
- When are you going to balance the classes and fix the Zerg meta that dominates the entire game? There is nothing you can do in PvP against CC staking + macro. It doesn't matter how many CP you have. It doesn't matter how good and skilled a veteran MMO player you are. In PvP you are a freekill for Zerg. Especially if you are playing mage. You will be killed before you can even press any key.

- When will you fix bot and script problems? Why don't you ban bot accounts even though they are reported?

- Why do you allow a tryhard guild to open 6-7 sub-guilds on a server and allow all these guilds to ally with each other? In conflict zones and mass wars, these guilds are friendly to each other and cannot attack, so they can easily dominate other guilds in PvP/GvG. What is the purpose of leaving the entire server under the control of one guild, making nothing obtainable for other guilds? That's why many guilds switch to other servers or quit the game. Are you planning to do anything about this?

- When will moderation come to world chat? You allow hate speech, insults, swearing, humiliation, disgusting and perverted speech, everything. In a global game played by people of all ages and cultures, why is there no control over chat? Why aren't the people we report punished?

- Why isn't there an endgame for solo players? Why would you make a system that forces players to join a guild and do PvP? Not everyone wants to play like this.

- Why do we have to play the game the way you want? Why can't we play the way we want? We have limited daily contracts and limited access to co-op dungeons. There is a limited token system for dropping items from open dungeons. All PvE content is limited. Once the daily rights are used, there is nothing left to do in the game. Events are a complete waste of time because they have no benefit to the player, they are boring and meaningless. Can't you just set us free and play as we want?
You guys should watch a video about pvp.
There is a CC removal stone you can farm, which might take a day or two.
There is other stuff and stats for PVP you can reduce stuns etc.
And take guild mates with you that buff, weak the enemy and stun them.
No one is running around like a chicken hoping to "win"..you gotta work as a team.
You can try to do it solo, but you're not the main hero here..stop having those delusions of "if i can't do it solo it sucks"
There are literally guides for pvp and how to play as mage, i have a lot of kills..as a solo staff - wand guy..
Also we have arena plays, try them out first before you go into conflict zones to practice and read your ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ skills for once.

Dude, I'm a dps healer using Staff/Wand with 3000 CP. CC stone has a cooldown but you didn't mention it. It is not an item that you can constantly press and use. I guess you've never encountered a Zerg group working as a team? All elite guilds play only Zerg. As I mentioned above, there is such a thing as cc staking. You have no chance against a team that can stun you repeatedly, but you can only fight against low-CP guys in the back, which I guess is all you can do. Also these guys don't spend any effort because they use macros and scripts. No need skill or brain.
iamtrippingballz Oct 17, 2024 @ 1:04am 
Originally posted by Lugh:
Originally posted by iamtrippingballz:

Instead of preventing grinding, why don't they reduce the chance of item drops and free the player? Shouldn't the player who puts more time and effort into the game be rewarded? Isn't grinding an essential element of every MMO? To obtain recharge tokens, you need to do an allied contract or resistance contract. But as I said, it is limited :) Apart from that, there is a chance of dropping an allied contract when killing mobs or opening a pouch. If you reset 20000 tokens, it is impossible to refill them. You need to save tokens for days without killing mobs.
Should I do the math?
You get 500 from daily quests. 3120-5000 from Amito house. 3 dungeons per day 1500 Points.
And a few other ones like quests etc. battle pass.
Depending on where you are you can get around
7000-12000 Abyss token each day. I farm those dungeons outside daily..
You also got weekly quests and can find and craft them, you can literally if you would go hardcore, have 20k Abyss tokens EACH DAY. Not even joking..
Contracts drop outside in the world, there are even strategies of how to farm them..
You are saying "ugh it takes so many days" No, people literally get 20k per day if they want to..or at least 10k+ per day with not much effort.
3 x Dungeons take 1hour if you got a good guild team or friends..and i still have a lot of blue items.
Daily takes 5minutes..especially canina village.
Amito you can send 8 hours everytime or 1hour if you are gaming for more salt.
Contracts can be done with a group you can do 5 at the same time, so craft those you can stack..ffs..

What you said is something I do routinely every day, but either the math is a little wrong or I'm missing something. I can earn between 3-4k per day, which I spend in the open dungeon on the same day.
Nihilus - KæTo Oct 17, 2024 @ 1:05am 
this game need Demenishing return for ccs
SkFy Oct 17, 2024 @ 1:06am 
Originally posted by iamtrippingballz:
Originally posted by Lugh:
Should I do the math?
You get 500 from daily quests. 3120-5000 from Amito house. 3 dungeons per day 1500 Points.
And a few other ones like quests etc. battle pass.
Depending on where you are you can get around
7000-12000 Abyss token each day. I farm those dungeons outside daily..
You also got weekly quests and can find and craft them, you can literally if you would go hardcore, have 20k Abyss tokens EACH DAY. Not even joking..
Contracts drop outside in the world, there are even strategies of how to farm them..
You are saying "ugh it takes so many days" No, people literally get 20k per day if they want to..or at least 10k+ per day with not much effort.
3 x Dungeons take 1hour if you got a good guild team or friends..and i still have a lot of blue items.
Daily takes 5minutes..especially canina village.
Amito you can send 8 hours everytime or 1hour if you are gaming for more salt.
Contracts can be done with a group you can do 5 at the same time, so craft those you can stack..ffs..

What you said is something I do routinely every day, but either the math is a little wrong or I'm missing something. I can earn between 3-4k per day, which I spend in the open dungeon on the same day.

Same about 4-5k with finding contracts in open world
Hmmm why cry? its the same on all PVP Massiv MMO games........ Zerg kill you! Zerg kill you!
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Date Posted: Oct 17, 2024 @ 12:06am
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