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Gillingham 2024 年 11 月 3 日 上午 6:42
Does PvP require skill, or does the player with better items win?
I just started the game, but I’m unsure about continuing. Are PvP battles (either multiplayer or 1v1) truly skill-based, or does the character with higher damage win?" If it's skill-based, i'll continue because i really love this world.
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tommy vercetti 2024 年 11 月 3 日 下午 6:17 
引用自 kyojin 巨人
relax! there is no PVP in this game, only Quests and Dungeons
and dragons?
sEver 2024 年 11 月 4 日 上午 1:20 
引用自 ki09liu
Today I saw a guy with daggers/crossbow that moved in a very strange way, he was very fast and with one skill he lowered quite a bit of life to the boss bar (in karnix).

I think that besides having movement speed and attack speed traits, he had full hit equipment... (I didn't see that he had potions applied).

I doubt that it is a game with skill-based pvp just to press buttons and move the mouse.
You could have all your blue equipment full trait, or even, all your purple armor full trait (dungeon) but a guy with full archboss equipment (p2w player) catches you, and you won't beat him even in your dreams.

and I don't want to miss the opportunity to say that not all classes are made for individual pvp, bow/staff sucks in 1 vs 1, not to mention the healer.

Yeah, game is totally not trying to be balanced around 1v1, seeing as it's following the paper-rock-scissors pattern. Things start making more sense once you have a well composed team who knows what they're doing.
☣ RotPest ☣ 2024 年 11 月 4 日 上午 1:21 
the player with bigger wallet win. that simpel
Offence 2024 年 11 月 4 日 上午 1:22 
引用自 sEver
引用自 ki09liu
Today I saw a guy with daggers/crossbow that moved in a very strange way, he was very fast and with one skill he lowered quite a bit of life to the boss bar (in karnix).

I think that besides having movement speed and attack speed traits, he had full hit equipment... (I didn't see that he had potions applied).

I doubt that it is a game with skill-based pvp just to press buttons and move the mouse.
You could have all your blue equipment full trait, or even, all your purple armor full trait (dungeon) but a guy with full archboss equipment (p2w player) catches you, and you won't beat him even in your dreams.

and I don't want to miss the opportunity to say that not all classes are made for individual pvp, bow/staff sucks in 1 vs 1, not to mention the healer.

Yeah, game is totally not trying to be balanced around 1v1, seeing as it's following the paper-rock-scissors pattern. Things start making more sense once you have a well composed team who knows what they're doing.

1v1 in this game shouldn't even pe tried for fun , unlike serious MMORPGS like WoW or SWTOR where can you outplay any class on any class with enough skills here it's just rock-paper-scissor imbalanced trash.
MOnzik 2024 年 11 月 4 日 上午 1:32 
play great sword sns, or daggers, no skill needed, just stun, and guiliotine 🤣
Offence 2024 年 11 月 4 日 上午 1:36 
引用自 MnZo
play great sword sns, or daggers, no skill needed, just stun, and guiliotine 🤣

Yea this pretty much sums up how poorly balanced this game in terms of mechanics in classes.

Best example.
Tomcat 2024 年 11 月 4 日 上午 6:40 
引用自 Offence
引用自 MnZo
play great sword sns, or daggers, no skill needed, just stun, and guiliotine 🤣

Yea this pretty much sums up how poorly balanced this game in terms of mechanics in classes.

Best example.

Melee Weapons sucks in large scale fights but they are really good in small scale ones, Ranges and Magic Weapons are very good in large scale but sucks in small ones, you are going to lose 90% of the times against an melee player in small scale fights and you just need to accept that.

Its really that simple and easy to understand, dont expect to be good in everything, the core of the game it's designed to be an rock, paper and scissor game, you are always going to be weak to something.
最后由 Tomcat 编辑于; 2024 年 11 月 4 日 上午 6:44
glaphen 2024 年 11 月 4 日 下午 1:37 
引用自 ki09liu
Today I saw a guy with daggers/crossbow that moved in a very strange way, he was very fast and with one skill he lowered quite a bit of life to the boss bar (in karnix).

I think that besides having movement speed and attack speed traits, he had full hit equipment... (I didn't see that he had potions applied).

I doubt that it is a game with skill-based pvp just to press buttons and move the mouse.
You could have all your blue equipment full trait, or even, all your purple armor full trait (dungeon) but a guy with full archboss equipment (p2w player) catches you, and you won't beat him even in your dreams.

and I don't want to miss the opportunity to say that not all classes are made for individual pvp, bow/staff sucks in 1 vs 1, not to mention the healer.
Dagger/crossbow isn't even good in PvP, it's a PvE build, all of it's damage can be blocked, and bow shield passive makes them immune to them until the nerf arrives, damage reduction also works at double amount in PvP, so fast multihit will barely hurt high damage reduction stat players, and shield blocks with counter up will just kill themselves with high damage reduction.
Archboss weapons are not even better than normal weapons at all, the only one that is even any good is the crossbow, even the future 2 tier 2 ones are all pretty garbage for most builds, they are merely RARE side grades, none are just best in slot for every build, 99% have 0 reason to even use the Queen Bellandir sword or staff, sword is only good for sword/dagger, staff is only good if you take all the burning and only in mass PvP when the enemy goes full ♥♥♥♥♥♥, the Tevent dagger is only good for specific builds playing around it, the Tevent wand is only good for DPS wand exploding and pure RNG to land, the Tevent greatsword is only good for AoE, if you build around it, and greatsword isn't the best at AoE anyway even if you build around it. The future Deluzhnoa sword is only good if you play sword/bow if anything, stacking range offensively, useless otherwise, might as well use greatsword dash to root on half the cooldown, the bow is literally trash, everyone uses the Tornado, why use an inferior version with an inferior effect even after the weapon buff, the staff is just a damage boost to meteor, probably one of the better ones, the future Giant Cordy Korea doesn't have yet looks like a PvE weapon, and don't even know what "ultimate skill" is, the crossbow only works playing around gale and only adds a pull...Wand only gives a 2 second CC immunity buff to 1 target. Only the Queen Bellandir is pretty broken giving a ton of DPS to crossbow, and only the Queen Bellandir sword even has any unique stats having the highest damage reduction stats of swords, but that's not a necessary stat for most.
Zero1 2024 年 11 月 4 日 下午 3:42 
what people do not understand is there is always a weakness to one build there is no dominating factor
最后由 Zero1 编辑于; 2024 年 11 月 4 日 下午 3:43
tommy vercetti 2024 年 11 月 4 日 下午 3:58 
引用自 Zero1
what people do not understand is there is always a weakness to one build there is no dominating factor
the entire game is a weakness. dead game LOL
whoizz 2024 年 11 月 4 日 下午 4:06 
引用自 ☣ RotPest ☣
the player with bigger wallet win. that simpel

touche.
Stockwerk 13 2024 年 11 月 4 日 下午 4:10 
MasterCard / PayPal
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best weapon combo in the game
LGBTQ+ Enjoyer 2024 年 11 月 4 日 下午 4:26 
引用自 Rodion Romanovich Raskolnikov
I just started the game, but I’m unsure about continuing. Are PvP battles (either multiplayer or 1v1) truly skill-based, or does the character with higher damage win?" If it's skill-based, i'll continue because i really love this world.

It's too late for playing this game mate. Because of daily limits you cant just catchu up other players by playing more. Only one way to do that is to buy whole aucion for real money. Or you can just play PVE. But PVP? Sorry, but top players earned thousands of lucents in early game because overpriced items. Now its all gone and what they did in one month you can make in six. Forgive about PVP. You can wait for new server to start at day one.
glaphen 2024 年 11 月 4 日 下午 5:19 
引用自 Rodion Romanovich Raskolnikov
I just started the game, but I’m unsure about continuing. Are PvP battles (either multiplayer or 1v1) truly skill-based, or does the character with higher damage win?" If it's skill-based, i'll continue because i really love this world.

It's too late for playing this game mate. Because of daily limits you cant just catchu up other players by playing more. Only one way to do that is to buy whole aucion for real money. Or you can just play PVE. But PVP? Sorry, but top players earned thousands of lucents in early game because overpriced items. Now its all gone and what they did in one month you can make in six. Forgive about PVP. You can wait for new server to start at day one.
Why would it be impossible to catch up, traits are becoming cheaper and cheaper, mastery has a limit and will be reworked soon, skills have a max, runes aren't even out yet but they will have a max and barely any per level difference. There are surely many many players who have made barely any lucent at all since launch. Most lucent I've made is 583 off a skill damage ring, 1560 off a world boss helmet trait, and 312 off a trash world boss cloak trait in the first few days now worth nothing.
最后由 glaphen 编辑于; 2024 年 11 月 4 日 下午 5:22
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