Understanding Crit Damage vs normal damage

[MoreGames]

My understanding of crit hit is when you do maximum damage. What is a normal (non-crit) damage then? Is it the minimum damage or is it a random number between min and max?

Example : If I have damage range of 50-100, then crit hit means 100. Does normal (non-crit) damage mean 50? Or does it mean anywhere from 50 to 100? If the latter, then a non-crit hit can potentially do the same amount as a crit hit (100)?

[Panthaz89]

Originally posted by Arruntius:

Crit dmg is not max dmg, its dmg multiplied lol.

from what I've seen heavy attack is a multiplier while crit is max.

[~T~D~]

Crit is just that a critical hit, if max dmg is 100 a crit can be 1000 or 1500.

[Kyutaru]

Crit is Max damage. Heavy Attack is the 2x multiplier one. Crits can't do extra damage.

[decazxx]

Originally posted by Kyutaru:

Crit is Max damage. Heavy Attack is the 2x multiplier one. Crits can't do extra damage.

Wrong hower on your stats icon in character page we have base crit damage of 200% shadow harvester set can add another 14% on top of that plus your weapon masteries so as far as I understand if your skill for example deal 100 base damage which is 100% crit hit with that skill will deal 200dmg whats will be 200% which then can be amplified by heavy hit and multiplied by 2 also you have to take skill dmg boost from your gear into this formula

[Kyutaru]

https://maxroll.gg/throne-and-liberty/resources/in-depth-stats-guide

A Critical Hit means you deal your maximum Base Damage on an attack. Critical Damage is a separate stat that increases your attack damage whenever you land a Critical Hit.

[MoreGames]

Yes, crit is max damage. My question is what is normal non-crit damage. Is it min to max or is it min. If it's min to max, then a non crit can potentially equal a crit hit.

In my example, a crit is 100. But if a normal non-crit is min to max, then a normal non-crit hit is 75 on average. So a crit is not very impressive, A heavy hit is much more impressive cause even with 0% crit chance, a heavy hit would have 150 on average (given a non-crit is 75 on average).

[KOS]

No because there is a stat call critical damage that increase the damage of critical..

[MoreGames]

Originally posted by KOS:

No because there is a stat call critical damage that increase the damage of critical..

I did a search for this trait in the auction house. There is no such trait.

[Boink]

I assume 50-100 depends who or what you hitting. So if someone is built endurance and it is higher than your crit you are more likely will hit min damage.

[MoreGames]

Originally posted by Boink:

I assume 50-100 depends who or what you hitting. So if someone is built endurance and it is higher than your crit you are more likely will hit min damage.

But will it mean min damage or will it mean simply negating the chance of a crit. You are assuming a non-crit is min damage. I'm actually asking this very thing. Does a normal non-crit mean min damage or does it mean a roll between min and max.

[KOS]

Originally posted by MoreGames:

Originally posted by KOS:

No because there is a stat call critical damage that increase the damage of critical..

I did a search for this trait in the auction house. There is no such trait.

Check death set bonuses and passive skill dagger "wrathfull edge", there are other.

[MoreGames]

Originally posted by KOS:

Originally posted by MoreGames:

I did a search for this trait in the auction house. There is no such trait.

Check death set bonuses and passive skill dagger "wrathfull edge", there are other.

You're talking about skills. Most people will not have this skill. I'm actually asking about traits here. I'm trying to decide between investing between critical hit chance vs heavy hit chance. I'm trying to see if a non-crit mean min damage or if it means min to max damage.

[Boink]

Originally posted by MoreGames:

But will it mean min damage or will it mean simply negating the chance of a crit. You are assuming a non-crit is min damage. I'm actually asking this very thing. Does a non-crit mean min damage or does it mean a roll between min and max.

It depends on the endurance levels up against your crit. If it is higher than yours (which is more likely) against an Endurance build, it will be min damage. If your crit is higher it will more likely crit on a given range against endurance.

At least that is how I view it.

[Boink]

Critical Hit and Endurance
Critical Chance Formula:
Crit Chance = ((Your Crit− Enemy Endurance) / (Your Crit − Enemy Endurance + 1,000)) × 100%

Critical Chance Formula for PvE (Diminishing Returns):
Crit Chance = (Crit) / (1,000 + Crit) × 100%

Examples:
If your Crit is less than the enemy's Endurance, even by 10 points, your Crit Chance is close to 0%.
If you have 1,800 Critical Chance and your enemy has 1,400 Endurance, your Critical Chance is 29%.

[KOS]

Originally posted by MoreGames:

, then a non crit can potentially equal a crit hit.

Originally posted by KOS:

No because there is a stat call critical damage that increase the damage of critical..

Originally posted by Kyutaru:

https://maxroll.gg/throne-and-liberty/resources/in-depth-stats-guide

A Critical Hit means you deal your maximum Base Damage on an attack. Critical Damage is a separate stat that increases your attack damage whenever you land a Critical Hit.

At least check the link he gave you, all is explained.