2 Star Dungeons - lack of rewards?

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I was excited about 2 Star Dungeons - but since they were released i could hardly care less.

I tried them a few times - lots of issues with lag and lots of mechanics that require timing in a game that lags and has server issues for many.

But besides that - only few interresting items drop in those dungeons and the drop chances are slim. There also arent other interresting things like new Amitois etc.


In Tier 1 Dungeons you actually felt the progression - you got stronger over time and they got easier - but Tier 2 pretty much makes most ppl go in almost fully upgraded and geared and only offers a few small items that make you a little big stronger - you will probably hardly notice. I mean if they at least had new weapons or world boss weapons etc. in but like this?

I cant be the only one?

[Shazbot]

Not sure if it is true, but I recall a Korean player saying that they already had T2 Gear at this point. So their life pools in general were all much higher.... like DPS had 20k+ life........

If that is true, then whoever figured holding T2 gear back was a good idea may have screwed the pooch on this one. They probably should have introduced the socket systems to help bridge the gap in not having real Tier 2 gear. and not just 2 Star Gear.....

All of that aside.... a few things I think are BS.

-Blue Gear in 2Star dungeons is BS (We are not in here to work on our litho, or get a 25 Lucent Trait)

- Life Pools of Final Boss. I don't see the point of a 10min Boss fight.... like honestly this isn't Elden Ring..... we shouldn't need to execute a flaws victory in order to stand a chance.

- Mechanics - Some of these are a bit much for a PUG group to pull off. We can all just be honest here and acknowledge that the average PUG isn't going to all come in with knowledge of the fights and a complete understanding of their roll in this Boss fight.

I HIGHLY SUGGEST you just do what other games have done and give us boss information in the codex that we can collect WITHIN the dungeon to explain how a boss might work..... Like notes from a previous explorer that may have died during the battle... little corpse before the boss with a note we could read...... then the boss mechs could be loaded into your Codex and people could learn these fights better.

Look....... I do what most seasoned MMO players do, we go to a source we trust for information on these fights, we read up on them, we watch videos, we look at lists of mechs and attack patterns to give us the best edge going into the fight...... but you CAN NOT expect this of players who may be new to MMOs, or console players in general....(sorry not sorry) Compound that with your game has a major PVP focus so the average player in this game is most likely a meat head and doesn't understand basic PVE mechs anyway.....


My summary.
I honestly think 2Star Dungeons will become Guild Only content for the next few months.
Meaning most serious players wont waste their time with PUGs and just start forming guild static groups they know can clear the content fast..... that is exactly what most of my guild has done. They refuse to help out other players because it's like EVERY SINGLE RUN you have to spend 20min teaching some new player all the mechs and then failing over and over tell it clicks in their head and then you can clear it 45min later.

Truly the entire 2 Star experience is cancerous.

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I seriously even doubt that many guilds do it. The dropchances are slim and the items barely change your characters power.

There would be a million things they could add easily - transmog stones or even transmog skins of existing armors etc

I also dont get the dungeon recycling. Cant they just use any existing part of the map or even make something new?

[Ducky]

Originally posted by Shazbot:

Not sure if it is true, but I recall a Korean player saying that they already had T2 Gear at this point. So their life pools in general were all much higher.... like DPS had 20k+ life........

If that is true, then whoever figured holding T2 gear back was a good idea may have screwed the pooch on this one. They probably should have introduced the socket systems to help bridge the gap in not having real Tier 2 gear. and not just 2 Star Gear.....

All of that aside.... a few things I think are BS.

-Blue Gear in 2Star dungeons is BS (We are not in here to work on our litho, or get a 25 Lucent Trait)

- Life Pools of Final Boss. I don't see the point of a 10min Boss fight.... like honestly this isn't Elden Ring..... we shouldn't need to execute a flaws victory in order to stand a chance.

- Mechanics - Some of these are a bit much for a PUG group to pull off. We can all just be honest here and acknowledge that the average PUG isn't going to all come in with knowledge of the fights and a complete understanding of their roll in this Boss fight.

I HIGHLY SUGGEST you just do what other games have done and give us boss information in the codex that we can collect WITHIN the dungeon to explain how a boss might work..... Like notes from a previous explorer that may have died during the battle... little corpse before the boss with a note we could read...... then the boss mechs could be loaded into your Codex and people could learn these fights better.

Look....... I do what most seasoned MMO players do, we go to a source we trust for information on these fights, we read up on them, we watch videos, we look at lists of mechs and attack patterns to give us the best edge going into the fight...... but you CAN NOT expect this of players who may be new to MMOs, or console players in general....(sorry not sorry) Compound that with your game has a major PVP focus so the average player in this game is most likely a meat head and doesn't understand basic PVE mechs anyway.....


My summary.
I honestly think 2Star Dungeons will become Guild Only content for the next few months.
Meaning most serious players wont waste their time with PUGs and just start forming guild static groups they know can clear the content fast..... that is exactly what most of my guild has done. They refuse to help out other players because it's like EVERY SINGLE RUN you have to spend 20min teaching some new player all the mechs and then failing over and over tell it clicks in their head and then you can clear it 45min later.

Truly the entire 2 Star experience is cancerous.

you only need to watch some older korean youtube videos and you see that they were stronger and had lots more hp....you see them hitting boss with standard attacks with 1k+ dmg and 20-30k dmg with some skills

[Railguns]

Wow raid mechanics without meaningful drops which your suppose to do daily and with pugs? If I wanted to play wow I would. Clueless developers.

[Boink]

I personally hate it when it drops blues LOL.

[spudd922]

only blue loot from t2 its better loot in t1 or open dungeons