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GingasVR Nov 26, 2024 @ 12:00pm
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If you're a Bow/Wand healer change your review to negative
They completely ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up the class. If you're a Bow/wand user your class went from being the best healer to being unplayable.

The Shield Nerf was needed, but a 60s cooldown is horrible.. especially with no passive cd timer so you have no idea when it'll proc and when to heal around it.

healing touch/swift heal sharing a CD is ♥♥♥♥ design.. there are SO MANY OTHER THINGS they could have done that wouldn't have been such a lazy ♥♥♥♥♥♥ desicison that completly breaks peoples playstyle and gameplay. Lower the healing output with both on the bar as 1 example instead of just sharing a CD.. so ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ stupid.

80% anti heal on staff, dagger gs.. breaks bow/wand in all pvp, arenas are unplayable.. theres litererly no point to being a healer anymore.

THIS PATCH WAS MADE FOR KR. they are on an entire different version of the game with T2 Armor (so healing can work around it) THIS BRAKES Bow/Wand for T1 and there is no denying that. THEY SHOULD NOT HAVE RELEASED THIS NERF THIS EARLY.

I would suggest leaving a negative review, uninstalling the game and go play something else until NCSoft or AGS realize how this patch ♥♥♥♥♥♥ the game up.. it'll be dead soon with no more healers
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Boink Nov 26, 2024 @ 12:18pm 
I am a bow/wand and I don't see a big difference... lol

Yes I cleared T2 with ease.
Daish Nov 26, 2024 @ 12:24pm 
ok
GingasVR Nov 26, 2024 @ 12:27pm 
Originally posted by Boink:
I am a bow/wand and I don't see a big difference... lol

Yes I cleared T2 with ease.

You can clear dungeons with anything... this nobody is complaining about PvE... it made PvP healing unplayable.
Boink Nov 26, 2024 @ 12:33pm 
Originally posted by GingasVR:

You can clear dungeons with anything... this nobody is complaining about PvE... it made PvP healing unplayable.

I also play Staff/Wand as a healer is still no problem in PvP.
Devl Nov 26, 2024 @ 12:37pm 
POE2 coming out next week.
this game was just a filler while waiting on ashes and archeage
Boink Nov 26, 2024 @ 12:38pm 
Are you talking about generally ARENA heals?
GingasVR Nov 26, 2024 @ 12:53pm 
Originally posted by Boink:
Originally posted by GingasVR:

You can clear dungeons with anything... this nobody is complaining about PvE... it made PvP healing unplayable.

I also play Staff/Wand as a healer is still no problem in PvP.
This is Bow/Wand not staff wand.

They Broke Bow/Wand.

And Staff/Wand is Mid tier healing at best, you only have 1 proper single target heal.

Haveing a shared CD is the most braindead way to balence a class in a game about choosing weapon combinations.., they basically just said HEY you can choose any 2 weapons.. BUT DONT CHOOSE BOW/WAND because they work to well together.. WTF

They should add shared cd between other classes. Lets have the dagger cc and gs gullitine share a CD, add CD between staff/Bow, put in a CD between Staff/wand. SnS/GS, so you can't shove and use the GS Smash at the same time... SMFH.

IT'S STUPID AF way to balence a game.. you shouldn't ♥♥♥♥ over peoples rotation and basic mechanics like that.

They could have easily lowered healing percentage or something if you have healing touch/swift heal on the same bar...if they thought it was OP (WHICH BTW IT"S ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ NOT, Bow/Wand HAS NO MOBILITY or GOOD DPS YOU DUMB ♥♥♥♥♥, YOU GIVE UP MOBILITY TO HAVE BETTER HEALING) Monke DPS Players were complaining about not being able to kill a healer on 1v1 duels and now the game will die, GOOD JOB.

Devs took the laziest approach to balance possible.
Last edited by GingasVR; Nov 26, 2024 @ 1:00pm
glaphen Nov 26, 2024 @ 1:53pm 
Originally posted by GingasVR:
Originally posted by Boink:

I also play Staff/Wand as a healer is still no problem in PvP.
This is Bow/Wand not staff wand.

They Broke Bow/Wand.

And Staff/Wand is Mid tier healing at best, you only have 1 proper single target heal.

Haveing a shared CD is the most braindead way to balence a class in a game about choosing weapon combinations.., they basically just said HEY you can choose any 2 weapons.. BUT DONT CHOOSE BOW/WAND because they work to well together.. WTF

They should add shared cd between other classes. Lets have the dagger cc and gs gullitine share a CD, add CD between staff/Bow, put in a CD between Staff/wand. SnS/GS, so you can't shove and use the GS Smash at the same time... SMFH.

IT'S STUPID AF way to balence a game.. you shouldn't ♥♥♥♥ over peoples rotation and basic mechanics like that.

They could have easily lowered healing percentage or something if you have healing touch/swift heal on the same bar...if they thought it was OP (WHICH BTW IT"S ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ NOT, Bow/Wand HAS NO MOBILITY or GOOD DPS YOU DUMB ♥♥♥♥♥, YOU GIVE UP MOBILITY TO HAVE BETTER HEALING) Monke DPS Players were complaining about not being able to kill a healer on 1v1 duels and now the game will die, GOOD JOB.

Devs took the laziest approach to balance possible.
There were already things that didn't work in combo, bow reset doesn't work with half the skills, crossbow Bloodlust passive doesn't work with Ray of Disaster wand skill, staff mana regen projectiles don't work with anything but wand/staff skills and basics, bow/crossbow extra projectile passive only works with bow/crossbow projectiles and basics, shield block doesn't work without the shield in the main hand along with half the passives and skills.
How do you think they could nerf it, nerf bow heal when it's already ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ useless on it's own, no one is healing with bow, wand passives are the thing that increase it by over 250% to make it usable, and still not good compared to wand heals, you also realize there's a ton of people using just wand, they don't even have access to the other 4 support skills in the first place, they don't even give a ♥♥♥♥ about you wand/bow users being nerfed.
Meanwhile the game will eventually add a unique skill per weapon combo so it will be different for everything anyway.
Boink Nov 26, 2024 @ 1:58pm 
Originally posted by GingasVR:
And Staff/Wand is Mid tier healing at best, you only have 1 proper single target heal.

Lol one of the best PvP/PvE Staff/Wand player in my guild will more likely disagree with you. If you are talking about PVP it has better kits.

I understand if this is Arena wise but yeah nothing "that drastic" to change bow/wand.
Erain Nov 26, 2024 @ 2:13pm 
Meow
Shazbot Nov 26, 2024 @ 2:36pm 
My dude thinks you need to be a Bow Wand user to want to give this game a negative review.... lmfao.
GingasVR Nov 26, 2024 @ 3:16pm 
Originally posted by Boink:
Originally posted by GingasVR:
And Staff/Wand is Mid tier healing at best, you only have 1 proper single target heal.

Lol one of the best PvP/PvE Staff/Wand player in my guild will more likely disagree with you. If you are talking about PVP it has better kits.

I understand if this is Arena wise but yeah nothing "that drastic" to change bow/wand.
Not for healing it doesn't Maybe after the patch sure.. but only be NCSoft doesn't know how to balance things.

Bow/Wand was the only actual healer in the game, wand/staff is just dps with some slight healing , same goes for every other weapon/wand.

Only bow and wand could be considered a true support/healer class
Sniffy_ Nov 26, 2024 @ 6:13pm 
MEOW
sEver Nov 26, 2024 @ 6:31pm 
I have to agree, making two spells from different weapons share a cooldown is just idiotic. Another piece of subpar gameplay design.
glaphen Nov 26, 2024 @ 7:14pm 
Originally posted by GingasVR:
Originally posted by Boink:

Lol one of the best PvP/PvE Staff/Wand player in my guild will more likely disagree with you. If you are talking about PVP it has better kits.

I understand if this is Arena wise but yeah nothing "that drastic" to change bow/wand.
Not for healing it doesn't Maybe after the patch sure.. but only be NCSoft doesn't know how to balance things.

Bow/Wand was the only actual healer in the game, wand/staff is just dps with some slight healing , same goes for every other weapon/wand.

Only bow and wand could be considered a true support/healer class
You do know staff/wand was the was the META healing combo before skill expressions right, people didn't even use bow with the option to, because it was garbage, and even after, the heal expressions are trash besides Flash Wave. People even used dagger over bow.
Here might as well post proof
https://youtu.be/Q3r5jxoKAjI?si=qXGNgfxmQ_i2DUyb&t=5276
This was 4 months ago, bow/wand literally only started being used because of Flash Wave.
Last edited by glaphen; Nov 26, 2024 @ 7:22pm
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