THRONE AND LIBERTY

THRONE AND LIBERTY

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shodori Nov 24, 2024 @ 4:15am
If you aren't 3200GS its time to P2W or Quit
Face it they are speeding up the content to keep their WHALES. in order to F2P to keep up you have to have already have 400 hours play time to farm and do everything.

Thats it.. you can't do the dungeons and if you have to wait a few months you will only be more behind.

This is the same concept that BDO pushes... you have to spend your life playing it to stay relevant or hand over that CC.

The drop rates are horrid for this. Needing dozens of armor pieces to upgrade one only forces you to swipe vs normal MMO's of just getting the drop.

T2's were filler bait to add challenge to those and give the opportunity for the WHALES to get their missing piece that just won't drop for them.
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StarlightAsh♡ Nov 24, 2024 @ 4:21am 
people have until march to get max gs which is easily done f2p, stop yapping
Darth_Angeal Nov 24, 2024 @ 5:04am 
Even GS 2500 is enough for the dungeons, just buff your weapons for the damage. The most traits are defensive stats, which are clearly not needed for PvE right now.

The game is fully play- and enjoyable as F2P. All what you shouldn´t do is to enter arena. You can´t compete with whales there, but that´s it.
Large scale PvP is more behind "mass-zergs" and "flashwave", so some little cashbois won´t be an issue.

Also T2 dungeons ARE FOR F2P´s imo. Whales got their gear already, dunno why you think they miss something. Whales buy their stuff and other players even profit in lucent for battlepasses, skins or their own gear from it.

Your post is just pointless exeggeration.
Darth_Angeal Nov 24, 2024 @ 6:08am 
Originally posted by Daoin:
so thats what people tell themselves to justify the lucent in this game, we all know some PTW but the game is built around siphoning lucent from a far more naive source to survive

Everyone who did atleast some google-search should know that this game is P2W before they start it.

Yet it´s also truth the this P2W factor will hit a wall, is exclusive to PvP (small scale mostly) and can be abused by F2P players to get cash-shop stuff for free.

I would welcome a sub over P2W, but it is what it is in the end. And i´m personally glad that i sit on dozens of lucent for the next battlepass or skin i like, pretty much for free. (If i would spend it, i would be GS 3700 aswell easily and i´ve also sold stuff with traits i need by myself, because i rate skins simply higher then 20 points for whatever you need it.)

I also accept that i´ll have no chance to be into the top 10 in arena without gearscore 3500+, which means either paying or grinding nonstop until i hit named wall. (Which can be done in a good amount of time too.)

So what? I don´t need to tell me anything. I play the game like i want, enjoy the stuff that is fun to me, etc...

It´s you guys who cry that F2P can´t compete with whales like poeple with jobs complain that they can´t compete with no-lifers here and in other games. You guys and your mentalities are just so hard infected with FOMO or that you can only have fun in a game when you´re permanently rewarded or be number 1 without spending money / time or effort.

Must be hard to actually have fun due to the gameplay itself these days, no matter if its win or loss, or no golden chest in the end. You destroy your own fun in games on your own, you know?
Last edited by Darth_Angeal; Nov 24, 2024 @ 6:10am
Chelios Nov 24, 2024 @ 6:13am 
Originally posted by shodori:
Face it they are speeding up the content to keep their WHALES. in order to F2P to keep up you have to have already have 400 hours play time to farm and do everything.

I just hit 400 hours, baby! I can do this all night.
Skillo Nov 24, 2024 @ 6:27am 
No, thanks
PrawiSucia Nov 24, 2024 @ 6:33am 
yes go p2w route and give benefit to f2p players.
Boink Nov 24, 2024 @ 6:41am 
I think I'm doing fine. I have 60k lucent, my main is 3730, and my alt is 3620 as an F2P.

I will soon wear my First Legion title and enjoy a couple drinks until the rival alliance take the castle.

I can say I am RNG bless.
Edmund Kemper Nov 24, 2024 @ 8:35am 
Originally posted by StarlightAsh♡:
people have until march to get max gs which is easily done f2p, stop yapping

whats the max GS? and whats happenings in march? just wondering im at almost 2800 GS . thanks
KillJoy Nov 24, 2024 @ 8:46am 
Originally posted by Boink:
I think I'm doing fine. I have 60k lucent, my main is 3730, and my alt is 3620 as an F2P.

I will soon wear my First Legion title and enjoy a couple drinks until the rival alliance take the castle.

I can say I am RNG bless.

Screenshot or it never happened.
DrumsOfLiberation Nov 24, 2024 @ 8:52am 
it's harder to make lucent as well now, market has crashed.
goodluck to all wanting to gear lol, glad im 3.4 + now but im pretty much done with this game.
Shazbot Nov 24, 2024 @ 8:57am 
Originally posted by shodori:
Face it they are speeding up the content to keep their WHALES. in order to F2P to keep up you have to have already have 400 hours play time to farm and do everything.

Thats it.. you can't do the dungeons and if you have to wait a few months you will only be more behind.

This is the same concept that BDO pushes... you have to spend your life playing it to stay relevant or hand over that CC.

The drop rates are horrid for this. Needing dozens of armor pieces to upgrade one only forces you to swipe vs normal MMO's of just getting the drop.

T2's were filler bait to add challenge to those and give the opportunity for the WHALES to get their missing piece that just won't drop for them.

9 Year BDO Vet here...... How dare you compare this dumpster fire to a literal Masterpiece.
Look BDO has it's problems for sure.....but their gate is just brutal RNG.... not garbage token systems like this game.

At least in BDO I can sit down and invest hours into anything I want and not hit some stupid WALL on content based on a limit I can do said content......

I want to go fish..... I go fish.......
I want to grind I can go grind.....
World Boss Kills that reward loot actually......

I mean the list goes on, sure BDO is a Korean MMO with issues..... but it is SO MUCH BETTER than this garbage dump..... NCSOFT lost out on one of its best published MMOs... Pearl Abyss got so lucky to ditch this company.,
Boink Nov 24, 2024 @ 9:15am 
Originally posted by KillJoy:

Screenshot or it never happened.

You can search my previous post including Imgur screenshot of my Steam Receipt to confirm.

I can't post the title yet but once I do I will make a separate post including Steam Receipt.
Lugh Nov 24, 2024 @ 9:17am 
Originally posted by shodori:
Face it they are speeding up the content to keep their WHALES. in order to F2P to keep up you have to have already have 400 hours play time to farm and do everything.

Thats it.. you can't do the dungeons and if you have to wait a few months you will only be more behind.

This is the same concept that BDO pushes... you have to spend your life playing it to stay relevant or hand over that CC.

The drop rates are horrid for this. Needing dozens of armor pieces to upgrade one only forces you to swipe vs normal MMO's of just getting the drop.

T2's were filler bait to add challenge to those and give the opportunity for the WHALES to get their missing piece that just won't drop for them.
"They are speeding to keep the whales" There was literally a roadmap..
We all knew it would come out weeks before it came.
You gotta be ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ me..we had videos and wikis..we had everything.
You kinda stupid or you never read the news or watched any Q&A video and just talk out your ass without doing any research, people like you are the reason flat earthers and anti vaxxers exist..instead of regulations and evolution, all we get are morons like you who can't even read.
Aerond Nov 24, 2024 @ 9:51am 
Originally posted by Boink:
I think I'm doing fine. I have 60k lucent, my main is 3730, and my alt is 3620 as an F2P.

I will soon wear my First Legion title and enjoy a couple drinks until the rival alliance take the castle.

I can say I am RNG bless.
Yeah, you probably bought those lucents from 3rd party.
Boink Nov 24, 2024 @ 10:07am 
Originally posted by Aerond:
Yeah, you probably bought those lucents from 3rd party.

If I was I be banned or in a negative.

All of my screenshots, including the First Acquirer of loot, are sold in the marketplace.

But yes it is good to question everything on the internet, including this post.
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