THRONE AND LIBERTY

THRONE AND LIBERTY

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Lamiosa Jul 19, 2024 @ 6:06am
Was Sweet Baby Inc involved into the game?
You can change details like shoulders, waist and pelvis, but not sizes of certain parts like butt or chest. Why should an asian developer take these sliders out? I can understand if developers don't provide sliders or provide sliders for anything, but why did exactly these sliders get taken out?
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JoseRodriguez Jul 19, 2024 @ 7:16am 
DEID doesn't show this game in the list, but considering Amazon publishing the game, it's not a far fetch they had influence on it.
Lamiosa Jul 19, 2024 @ 7:21am 
Originally posted by JoseRodriguez:
DEID doesn't show this game in the list, but considering Amazon publishing the game, it's not a far fetch they had influence on it.

Thanks, also already asked at DEIDetected, because I am not sure. But some users only asumed DEI inside, but it is not (yet) confirmed that they are involved as you said. However the specific censorship is still strange.
LostInSpace Jul 19, 2024 @ 7:32am 
You should hate the game. Be a good puppet and listen!
EmperorVolo Jul 19, 2024 @ 7:33am 
Amazon....I figured they censored something but wasn't sure what guess I know.
Skrammel Jul 19, 2024 @ 7:33am 
Where Amazon are there will be censorship : )
Lamiosa Jul 19, 2024 @ 7:36am 
Originally posted by LostInSpace:
You should hate the game. Be a good puppet and listen!

Actually I did the opposite? I asked people to look inside it and analyse, rather than listen to haters?
Skygrinder Jul 19, 2024 @ 7:43am 
Aside from genders being "Body Type", rather than male and female. I've seen nothing that suggests their involvement.

As for the sliders, personally don't care for it, as I actually like my characters to be in more natural human proportions. Though, I really see no reason not to have them for people that want to max the sliders. Coomers are people too. xD

it's all very standard asian mmorpg stuff that was always present in these games.
Lamiosa Jul 19, 2024 @ 7:46am 
Originally posted by Skygrinder:
Aside from genders being "Body Type", rather than male and female. I've seen nothing that suggests their involvement.

As for the sliders, personally don't care for it, as I actually like my characters to be in more natural human proportions. Though, I really see no reason not to have them for people that want to max the sliders. Coomers are people too. xD

it's all very standard asian mmorpg stuff that was always present in these games.

Standard asian would be to provide all sliders and not cut away the ones western politics complain about. I do not know if the asian versions included it and it was explicit cut away for western audience, or if it was there already from beginning. Someone know?
Skygrinder Jul 19, 2024 @ 7:52am 
Originally posted by Lamiosa:
Originally posted by Skygrinder:
Aside from genders being "Body Type", rather than male and female. I've seen nothing that suggests their involvement.

As for the sliders, personally don't care for it, as I actually like my characters to be in more natural human proportions. Though, I really see no reason not to have them for people that want to max the sliders. Coomers are people too. xD

it's all very standard asian mmorpg stuff that was always present in these games.

Standard asian would be to provide all sliders and not cut away the ones western politics complain about. I do not know if the asian versions included it and it was explicit cut away for western audience, or if it was there already from beginning. Someone know?

Aside from sliders is what I meant. Thought it was implied in my message, since I acknowledged it. Mind you I'm just taking peoples' word for it. I didn't even look for it, as I never even bother with those options.
EmperorVolo Jul 19, 2024 @ 8:11am 
People come in all shapes and sizes, it's just weird to censor the inclusion of all people ironically exactly going against DEI.
Lamiosa Jul 19, 2024 @ 8:13am 
Originally posted by V:
People come in all shapes and sizes, it's just weird to censor the inclusion of all people ironically exactly going against DEI.

Exactly. Why just remove exactly the sliders which go against western DEI politics? Technically it makes no sense.
Noctis Jul 19, 2024 @ 8:54am 
its amazon internal dei, they changed lost ark korean npcs with blacks. and they also censored blue protocol on the beta test, they removed skirts for your character, because its a no no.
Lamiosa Jul 19, 2024 @ 8:57am 
Originally posted by Noctis:
its amazon internal dei, they changed lost ark korean npcs with blacks. and they also censored blue protocol on the beta test, they removed skirts for your character, because its a no no.

Means they did not need Sweet Baby Inc for, because they already do DEI themselves. It's still bad for the game, but thanks for letting know.
Wish games would get uncensored, because I do not understand why big butt or breasts are harmful for a society, as they are also body fat and there should be no body shaming.
Last edited by Lamiosa; Jul 19, 2024 @ 8:59am
GrailQuest Jul 19, 2024 @ 8:59am 
Even before DEI and SBI, Amazon was already doing basic censoring. You can research the changes they did to Lost Ark which caused quite an uproar at the time for significantly changing even the skin colours of various characters in the game.
Last edited by GrailQuest; Jul 19, 2024 @ 9:00am
Lamiosa Jul 19, 2024 @ 9:04am 
Originally posted by GrailQuest:
Even before DEI and SBI, Amazon was already doing basic censoring. You can research the changes they did to Lost Ark which caused quite an uproar at the time for significantly changing even the skin colours of various characters in the game.

Yes, but DEI is the new term companies defend censorship with. But what censorship of this has to do with "diversity" is still a mystery to me, as diversity would also mean showing women in any kind of form, even one men like.
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Date Posted: Jul 19, 2024 @ 6:06am
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