Item drops in guild

[absent]

if u get a drop, from your rng. a guild shouldn't have control over the gear that drops. i was playing on Kr servers. no one in guild went to world boss, i did and got a rare drop from it. i didn't get the drop, because it was give to someone else that was offline at the time. if u want drops dont join a guild!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! fix this before it drops in na

[Bryan Fury]

Originally posted by absent:

if u get a drop, from your rng. a guild shouldn't have control over the gear that drops. i was playing on Kr servers. no one in guild went to world boss, i did and got a rare drop from it. i didn't get the drop, because it was give to someone else that was offline at the time. if u want drops dont join a guild!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! fix this before it drops in na

The system is fine as it is. There is nothing to fix. It is a great tool for very organized Clans that need to have a mean to "trade" items within their clan members as the Clan leader see it more fitting to be.... since there is NO TRADE between players.

There are settings that can be adjusted based on how the Clan leader need the "clan drops" to work out.

The Clan you are in just have a setting that has been decided to be that way. It is not the system that is in that way.

-You can set it up to get the drops in the Clan warehouse (and the Clan leader can decide later on to who assign the items one by one).
-You can set it up to give the item directly to the one that acquired it
-You can make it happens to be begind a bidding reward system
and so on..

Choose a Clan that have different management rules or make one yourself.

[agentkido]

Originally posted by Bryan Fury:

Originally posted by absent:

if u get a drop, from your rng. a guild shouldn't have control over the gear that drops. i was playing on Kr servers. no one in guild went to world boss, i did and got a rare drop from it. i didn't get the drop, because it was give to someone else that was offline at the time. if u want drops dont join a guild!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! fix this before it drops in na

The system is fine as it is. There is nothing to fix. It is a great tool for very organized Clans that need to have a mean to "trade" items within their clan members as the Clan leader see it more fitting to be.... since there is NO TRADE between players.

There are settings that can be adjusted based on how the Clan leader need the "clan drops" to work out.

The Clan you are in just have a setting that has been decided to be that way. It is not the system that is in that way.

-You can set it up to get the drops in the Clan warehouse (and the Clan leader can decide later on to who assign the items one by one).
-You can set it up to give the item directly to the one that acquired it
-You can make it happens to be begind a bidding reward system
and so on..

Choose a Clan that have different management rules or make one yourself.

It's a bad system, sure it's designed to allow trading but allowing the person who got the drop to trade it within an x amount of time should have been the way to go with the system vs letting a guild leader(someone u may not have a connection with) dictate who the drop goes to.

[Bryan Fury]

Originally posted by agentkido:

Originally posted by Bryan Fury:

The system is fine as it is. There is nothing to fix. It is a great tool for very organized Clans that need to have a mean to "trade" items within their clan members as the Clan leader see it more fitting to be.... since there is NO TRADE between players.

There are settings that can be adjusted based on how the Clan leader need the "clan drops" to work out.

The Clan you are in just have a setting that has been decided to be that way. It is not the system that is in that way.

-You can set it up to get the drops in the Clan warehouse (and the Clan leader can decide later on to who assign the items one by one).
-You can set it up to give the item directly to the one that acquired it
-You can make it happens to be begind a bidding reward system
and so on..

Choose a Clan that have different management rules or make one yourself.

It's a bad system, sure it's designed to allow trading but allowing the person who got the drop to trade it within an x amount of time should have been the way to go with the system vs letting a guild leader(someone u may not have a connection with) dictate who the drop goes to.

As i said, you are free to find a Clan that suits you better.

I like that system as per how we are organized. Everyone know HOW the things in the Clan works, there is a set of rules that everyone knows and approve of before join.

If you join a random Clan without knowning the rules and how it is managed, then there is no bad system, only bad Clan leaders. Choose yours wisely.

[agentkido]

Originally posted by Bryan Fury:

Originally posted by agentkido:

It's a bad system, sure it's designed to allow trading but allowing the person who got the drop to trade it within an x amount of time should have been the way to go with the system vs letting a guild leader(someone u may not have a connection with) dictate who the drop goes to.

As i said, you are free to find a Clan that suits you better.

I like that system as per how we are organized. Everyone know HOW the things in the Clan works, there is a set of rules that everyone knows and approve of before join.

If you join a random Clan without knowning the rules and how it is managed, then there is no bad system, only bad Clan leaders. Choose yours wisely.

youre dancing around the problem instead of addressing it.

[thanoskulo]

I agree this system is not good
If you get a drop it should be yours unless YOU donate it to the guild bank
This system is only fine if in guild raids gear drops for the whole raid then the leader can assign the drops using dkp like the old mmos or whatever system
I didnt get to do any guild raids in the OB so I dont know how the systems work there

[OneNineDeepSilence]

Well, thanks for the warning OP.

It's good system or not, it's good to know: don't join a guild or clan or whatever will be called, unless you trust the leaders and the rules, including those related to loot.

I can't join a guild anyway since I can play at random hours only. Which mostly means it is not a game for me. May give it a try though.

[Zashikix]

The problem here is that the world bosses are meant for guilds. You need a group of players strong enough to defeat a world boss. So guilds are meant to fight the world bosses and reward the loot to their members. The fact that solo players can attend the world bosses and be rewarded is just lucky, so if you're lucky to get something dropped but you're not active enough for the guild to reward you with the drop... well then that's your bad luck.

[80,154.65]

Originally posted by absent:

if u get a drop, from your rng. a guild shouldn't have control over the gear that drops. i was playing on Kr servers. no one in guild went to world boss, i did and got a rare drop from it. i didn't get the drop, because it was give to someone else that was offline at the time. if u want drops dont join a guild!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! fix this before it drops in na

is this Seriously how drops work if you are in a guild?

[80,154.65]

Originally posted by Bryan Fury:

Originally posted by absent:

if u get a drop, from your rng. a guild shouldn't have control over the gear that drops. i was playing on Kr servers. no one in guild went to world boss, i did and got a rare drop from it. i didn't get the drop, because it was give to someone else that was offline at the time. if u want drops dont join a guild!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! fix this before it drops in na

The system is fine as it is. There is nothing to fix. It is a great tool for very organized Clans that need to have a mean to "trade" items within their clan members as the Clan leader see it more fitting to be.... since there is NO TRADE between players.

There are settings that can be adjusted based on how the Clan leader need the "clan drops" to work out.

The Clan you are in just have a setting that has been decided to be that way. It is not the system that is in that way.

-You can set it up to get the drops in the Clan warehouse (and the Clan leader can decide later on to who assign the items one by one).
-You can set it up to give the item directly to the one that acquired it
-You can make it happens to be begind a bidding reward system
and so on..

Choose a Clan that have different management rules or make one yourself.

No my guy is is just going to be abused to gear the Leader and his/her friends first

[agentkido]

Originally posted by 80,154.65:

Originally posted by absent:

if u get a drop, from your rng. a guild shouldn't have control over the gear that drops. i was playing on Kr servers. no one in guild went to world boss, i did and got a rare drop from it. i didn't get the drop, because it was give to someone else that was offline at the time. if u want drops dont join a guild!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! fix this before it drops in na

is this Seriously how drops work if you are in a guild?

Yep, it's such a sad system I hope they fix it.

[agentkido]

Originally posted by OneNineDeepSilence:

Well, thanks for the warning OP.

It's good system or not, it's good to know: don't join a guild or clan or whatever will be called, unless you trust the leaders and the rules, including those related to loot.

I can't join a guild anyway since I can play at random hours only. Which mostly means it is not a game for me. May give it a try though.

Some guilds have a 14 days rule so if ur on once every 14 days ull be fine.

[agentkido]

Originally posted by Zashikix:

The problem here is that the world bosses are meant for guilds. You need a group of players strong enough to defeat a world boss. So guilds are meant to fight the world bosses and reward the loot to their members. The fact that solo players can attend the world bosses and be rewarded is just lucky, so if you're lucky to get something dropped but you're not active enough for the guild to reward you with the drop... well then that's your bad luck.

World bosses are meant for the community to come together and slay a boss at a specific time. It's not guild specific unless ur doing the PvP world boss then it's different.

[Astellin]

So no one from the guild was at the event and somehow they get it lol yeah nope

[Navari]

Or be like me and only make a clan with 2 or three friends

[agentkido]

Originally posted by Navari:

Or be like me and only make a clan with 2 or three friends

You won't be able to hold a capstone like that tho so it's not worth it. Especially once the big guilds get established with alliances and such