What is the progression system?

[Eren]

Is there any progression system in the game? What is the rank for (bronze, silver...)?

I expected that as you rank up, the initial bag of items would improve or new items would be unlocked or whatever, but I haven't identified what changes there have been. I suppose the difficulty of the enemies has gone up, but I'm not sure... the game still seems pretty easy.

Edit: fast answer, no, the game have no progression system.

[Ductape]

"I expected that as you rank up, the initial bag of items would improve or new items would be unlocked or whatever" this would break the game. Don't forget this game is very early access. Progression is get to top rank, have fun and wait for more content.

[Eren]

Originally posted by Mecha_Rembrandt:

"I expected that as you rank up, the initial bag of items would improve or new items would be unlocked or whatever" this would break the game. Don't forget this game is very early access. Progression is get to top rank, have fun and wait for more content.

That is, there is no progression system as such, is what I am asking. Aspiring to be first is not a progression system that unlocks things or changes anything within the game, it is simply a leaderboard.

""I expected that as you rank up, the initial bag of items would improve or new items would be unlocked or whatever" this would break the game."
- No, this would not break the game if the game gets harder. Harder game = stronger and faster start.

[Sugar 5 Zero]

So far I think the progression system consists of saving up trophies to purchase vanity items for your class and unlocking recipes that can be references for future games. I would like to see some more progression system upgrades but for the meantime, it's pretty fulfilling as it stands, well for the current moment.

[Nugget]

There is no progression per-say. You play the game, and while playing you combine different items on different characters to unlock new items, basically it is all there is currently.

[NightUndead]

Originally posted by Eren:

""I expected that as you rank up, the initial bag of items would improve or new items would be unlocked or whatever" this would break the game."
- No, this would not break the game if the game gets harder. Harder game = stronger and faster start.

This game is in the vein of a PvP game (mind you, not live, you're playing against others that at some point was at the same win/loss count). In ranked, progression COULD work, except they would have to make it so you lost items you've gained access to if you went down in rank, which would feel bad for the player, otherwise you'd have players who got to a higher rank once, dropping back down and just outright winning because that player has something most others at the rank doesn't.

But that is all a moot point when you consider that the game also has unranked, which means if progression like you're talking about was a thing, there'd be people with access to items others didn't have access to.

If the game got a pure PvE mode at some point (like for example hearthstone did after some years) some kind of progression system exclusive to that mode could most definitely work, but I doubt an entirely new mode is on the devs radar at this point in time.

[Eren]

Ok thank you for all answers!

[NightCabbage]

So yeah I've just started playing tonight... played a few games, and I have 28 trophies and went looking for ways to upgrade my character, etc.

I am a bit shocked to find there are in fact no upgrades / no meta-progression?

It feels disappointing... like playing Vampire Survivors, but nothing changes/grows/evolves. The first few games are gonna be exactly the same as any number of games. (other than what you learn from playing, of course).

(it's basically Hearthstone Battlegrounds)

[NightUndead]

Originally posted by NightCabbage:

So yeah I've just started playing tonight... played a few games, and I have 28 trophies and went looking for ways to upgrade my character, etc.

I am a bit shocked to find there are in fact no upgrades / no meta-progression?

It feels disappointing... like playing Vampire Survivors, but nothing changes/grows/evolves. The first few games are gonna be exactly the same as any number of games. (other than what you learn from playing, of course).

(it's basically Hearthstone Battlegrounds)

Because this isn't a game like vampire survivors, this is an asynchronous PvP game, it wouldn't be fair for someone to have access to straight up better stuff than you.

[Eren]

Originally posted by NightCabbage:

So yeah I've just started playing tonight... played a few games, and I have 28 trophies and went looking for ways to upgrade my character, etc.

I am a bit shocked to find there are in fact no upgrades / no meta-progression?

It feels disappointing... like playing Vampire Survivors, but nothing changes/grows/evolves. The first few games are gonna be exactly the same as any number of games. (other than what you learn from playing, of course).

(it's basically Hearthstone Battlegrounds)

It's a shame that the game is not rogue-like, in addition to the pvp combat. Each person has five builds, depending on the subclass they reach. It's a lot of fun to play them and repeat the one you like the most, but when you explore all the characters and their different specializations, there isn't much to do.

Originally posted by NightUndead:

Originally posted by NightCabbage:

So yeah I've just started playing tonight... played a few games, and I have 28 trophies and went looking for ways to upgrade my character, etc.

I am a bit shocked to find there are in fact no upgrades / no meta-progression?

It feels disappointing... like playing Vampire Survivors, but nothing changes/grows/evolves. The first few games are gonna be exactly the same as any number of games. (other than what you learn from playing, of course).

(it's basically Hearthstone Battlegrounds)

Because this isn't a game like vampire survivors, this is an asynchronous PvP game, it wouldn't be fair for someone to have access to straight up better stuff than you.

The game does not have asynchronous pvp as you say. Asynchronous pvp is what Fire emblem Engage has, to give you an example and it is when the other player can make their move without you needing to be present. But this game is an auto-battler, here there is no other player on the other side waiting to make their move, but rather the game system collects the profiles of the players and uses them to make them fight with yours.

So, yes, the game would be fair even if players moved up the ranks and started with more powerful builds, since pvp would match players of the same rank.

[SkyKing]

This Game is not a CoD or Hearthstone. Here is Skill the important thing and not lvl and Weapon-Progression(or pay directly for it). Hate it or love it, but i am Sick of People that asks "where is Progression, i want to f**k all newbies over the street". Men i wish People can remember or see the old days of Unreal Tournament and BF 1942

[ima]

Originally posted by Eren:

here there is no other player on the other side waiting to make their move, but rather the game system collects the profiles of the players and uses them to make them fight with yours.

That's asynchronous PvP.

That's litterally what it is.

[NightUndead]

Originally posted by Eren:

So, yes, the game would be fair even if players moved up the ranks and started with more powerful builds, since pvp would match players of the same rank.

Except what happens the moment someone drops in rank again? (And that can happen)
Do we take away the progression they got? That would feel bad for the player losing it, so the only other option is letting them keep it, in which case, they now have an advantage over the other people in the rank they droppped to.

Also definition of asynchronous according to google: "not existing or occurring at the same time." Cambridge Dictionary has a very similar definition.

I don't care what you WANT asynchronous to mean, the word asynchronous fits this game.