How to remove spiders / mod the game?

[Shadow]

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I need to remove the (normal) spiders from the game. The wiki tells me they have no function, so it should be easy to just remove them without breaking the game. I could not find any existing way to do this. Have I missed something?

Has this ever been mentioned as a future feature? I can wait a few months if that's all it takes.

I'd be willing to do some legwork of my own. A quick search indicates that it's possible to edit unity asset bundles and if I can get at the mesh of the 3D model I could just scale it down till it's basically invisible. But I don't want to risk a VAC ban for messing with game files, so I'd like to hear first if this is something I should worry about or not. Does this game have any VAC / anti cheat protection that could cause problems?

Thank you for your help!

[Freake420]

Are you talking about the spider mutants or the little spider thats runs off when you pick up a rock?

And I use ModAPI. they maybe could help over there in their forumz. Or someone here will chime in and help maybe.
An as far as I know there isnt any VAC/anti cheat protection that I'm aware of. I've never had issues using the mod.

[Shadow]

I'm talking about the "little" spider under the rocks. I think the spider mutants shouldn't be an issue since they have 6 legs and don't look as "spidery". I can play games like Dead Space just fine, it's just somewhat real looking spiders that ruin it for me.

Thanks for the info, I'll look into ModAPI.

[Freake420]

Wow ,you've got it bad bro. That sux. I dont know of a mod that is made to do that with ModAPI. I was just saying that the modders may be able to make something.

Seems like you could just tweek a file somewhere but thats beyond me.

Good Luck!

[SoEffinMoney]

Wait why is it you want to remove those?!

[maria_kalista]

Bad case of arachnophobia. Never heard it extended into games, hope you can find a solution for this.

[iamlegian]

Originally posted by maria_kalista:

Bad case of arachnophobia. Never heard it extended into games, hope you can find a solution for this.

I know a woman (late thirties) who gets freaked out by hands with long and thin fingers. Arachnophobia can get really bad.

I was already dissecting the game for modding purposes. If I figure out anything about spiders, I'll drop a reply.

[Shadow]

Originally posted by lycante:

Originally posted by maria_kalista:

Bad case of arachnophobia. Never heard it extended into games, hope you can find a solution for this.

I know a woman (late thirties) who gets freaked out by hands with long and thin fingers. Arachnophobia can get really bad.

I was already dissecting the game for modding purposes. If I figure out anything about spiders, I'll drop a reply.

Thanks a lot!


Edit: I think I found where it is, just not yet how to properly override it. It seems to be in:
TheForest.Items.World.PickUp.Collect()

[Shadow]

Originally posted by Freake420:

Are you talking about the spider mutants or the little spider thats runs off when you pick up a rock?

And I use ModAPI. they maybe could help over there in their forumz. Or someone here will chime in and help maybe.
An as far as I know there isnt any VAC/anti cheat protection that I'm aware of. I've never had issues using the mod.

Thanks again for your suggestion, I'm cautiously optimistic, that I've found a solution. I'm using ModAPI and added this to the source of the example mod for saving anytime, so that it gets executed every frame:


GameObject o = GameObject.Find("Spider(Clone)");

if (o != null)
{
GameObject.Destroy(o);
ModAPI.Log.Write("destroyed one");

}


I've picked up a bunch of stones, found no spiders, but the log confirms two were destroyed.

Trying to find a solution was nerve wrecking in many different ways...


If anyone plans to mod this game, you'll need some knowledge of the Unity API, or else you're gonna have a hard time. And getting the correct version of the recompiled mod dll to actually be loaded by the game proved difficult. Somehow ModAPI didn't overwrite the old dll or something like that.

[Ashtyn_Hetablade]

Just spam click the rocks and dont look directly at them (till they let us kill the spiders then its ok)

[breakingdead5]

I don't get it, what's the problem?

If you have a phobia of spiders, okay, but you realize that a game is a game, right? Not real. Can't harm you like the real thing. This will probably seem condescending to you, but I just can't see your point of view and I have phobias myself.

Plus if it creeps you out, then that's great, the game is doing what it's supposed to do. Horror/survival.

I think in this regard you should consider yourself lucky to have the phobia. I'm envious, because the game doesn't even slightly creep me out. I wish it did. I really do.

[Fathom]

Originally posted by breakingdead5:

I don't get it, what's the problem?

If you have a phobia of spiders, okay, but you realize that a game is a game, right? Not real. Can't harm you like the real thing. This will probably seem condescending to you, but I just can't see your point of view and I have phobias myself.

Plus if it creeps you out, then that's great, the game is doing what it's supposed to do. Horror/survival.

I think in this regard you should consider yourself lucky to have the phobia. I'm envious, because the game doesn't even slightly creep me out. I wish it did. I really do.

He doesn't want spiders in his game, he's not trying to enforce it on anyone else. If you don't have arachnaphobia, that's nice, but he does, so you really have no right to tell him how he should feel. Also - a protip, if you have to write "this will seem condescending", don't keep writing.

[Shadow]

Originally posted by breakingdead5:

I don't get it, what's the problem?

If you have a phobia of spiders, okay, but you realize that a game is a game, right? Not real. Can't harm you like the real thing. This will probably seem condescending to you, but I just can't see your point of view and I have phobias myself.

Plus if it creeps you out, then that's great, the game is doing what it's supposed to do. Horror/survival.

I think in this regard you should consider yourself lucky to have the phobia. I'm envious, because the game doesn't even slightly creep me out. I wish it did. I really do.

Phobias are super weird things, because it's literally impossible to imagine how a phobia feels, if you don't have it yourself. You don't get it, because there's no way you could get it. Whatever phobia you have, it doesn't seem to affect you in a way similar to how arachnophobia feels to me. There is no rational aspect to phobias, it's something going wrong in the brain connected to pattern recognition and fear responses. You know what a lemur is? It's some kind of ape with a long fluffy tail, kind of cute actually. There's an image somewhere on the internet with 7 or 8 lemurs sitting around a bowl or something, and the way their tails face away from it, at a glance it looks like a horrifying spider. That's triggering the pattern recognition for spiders in my brain enough, that I can't convince my brain not to read it as a spider, even though it's just a bunch of cute fluffy lemurs.

I have almost accidentally strangled myself to death as a kid with a wire cable tie, and as an aduld I've had an operation go wrong and was puking blood all over myself while being rushed back into the operating room. In terms of fear those events are harmless compared to seeing just a mid sized spider in real life. So you could say I fear spiders a lot more than death. Not by choice, not rationally, it's just the way my fear response reacts.

Nothing else affects me that way. E.g. I have absolutely no issues with snakes, even though they seem to be a kind of common phobia. I respect that for some they will be as horrifying or worse than spiders are for me, but I will never be able to truly understand a phobia of snakes like you won't understand my arachnophobia.

If this game doesn't give you enough thrill there probably aren't many that would. You could try Outlast or Amnesia the dark descent. You can't fight in both games, so that makes the enemies in the game scary on a mechanical level.

[maria_kalista]

Wow, great response!

Again, I hope you find a way around this and can enjoy this game to the fullest. :)

[Shadow]

Originally posted by maria_kalista:

Wow, great response!

Again, I hope you find a way around this and can enjoy this game to the fullest. :)

Thanks :). For Singleplayer my mod seems to work fine, I've survived till day 15 so far, been captured twice but haven't died since I started playing seriously. I've killed 2 of the 6-legged female mutants and I've struck down roughly 3 dozen cannibals. The game is absolutely fantastic. I wish others like Dayz or 7DTD were this immersive and polished.

[Eldritch_Equations]

I know this is years dead, but I'm wondering if you still have the mod around, and would you be willing to share it?