WTF is with the mis-fire rate

[[mad.] 13AKES]

seriously, what the hell di they do, gun at 80%+ condition, 4 misfires and reloads in a row, four, ive played the originals since release, multiple times, NEVER had this on guns that have decent condition, wtf did the company they contracted the EE out to do to this game

[Nacery]

Feels the same to me (I did a recent run of OG Stalker SoC Vanilla so I'm quite sure of it) Maybe you used a mod or something that improved gunplay?

[speaker2]

Yeap, feels the same. Maybe you have bad luck or need to re-play vanilla SoC.

[generic_sn]

Some guns (obokan) jam more often than others even at the same condition

[Kain]

It happened to me only once in CS which I know for a fact was incredibly buggy even back then. I had a fully modded pistol above 90% and it jammed like 4 times every two shots, but then it behaved normally only jamming occasionally. Some of it is due to bugs but some is for lore reasons, half of the weapons in this game are old refurbished Soviet era hardware.

Sometimes I believe people take their experience with Anomaly or OGSR or even Stalker with bug fix mods and thought the games were always like it.

And I'm saying it because when I played SoC EE i thought the game was too easy and they rebalanced it. But after playing half hour of SoC vanilla gog( and maybe that version has already some fan patches since gog sometimes will do that), I realized that nope game is working as it always had.

[Kain]

As I side note. I know that the PM is supposed to be weak. But wow, I really had forgotten how in this game they are as powerful as throwing rocks.

The starter AK in CS fully modded though is a beast as far as starter weapons go. You can take down Exo Stalkers really fast with headshots.

[HunterKiller]

I'm having a similar issue with the shotguns. They don't reload as they should. Been hammered to death several time due to, no shells loaded, manually or, auto. Never had this problem in the OG.

I don't like getting kill due to, some stupid game mechanic.

[lockwoodx]

I have to play this stalker so differently than the original.

In in original game your armor was trash and you had to be sneaky but your guns shot straight.

In the remaster game your aim is trash and armor makes you invincible so you bum rush everyone with the knife.

[speaker2]

Originally posted by lockwoodx:

I have to play this stalker so differently than the original.

In in original game your armor was trash and you had to be sneaky but your guns shot straight.

In the remaster game your aim is trash and armor makes you invincible so you bum rush everyone with the knife.

Seem somebody have play more mods than the actual games.

[lockwoodx]

Originally posted by speaker2:

Originally posted by lockwoodx:

I have to play this stalker so differently than the original.

In in original game your armor was trash and you had to be sneaky but your guns shot straight.

In the remaster game your aim is trash and armor makes you invincible so you bum rush everyone with the knife.

Seem somebody have play more mods than the actual games.

never played with any mods sorry

edit: You are so tanky in this stalker compared to the original it's almost comical. unfortunately they are tanky too.

[speaker2]

Originally posted by lockwoodx:

Originally posted by speaker2:

Seem somebody have play more mods than the actual games.

never played with any mods sorry draw 4

I draw the Joker one still, there no proof that they alter gameplay. So my guess is pure nostalgia bait.

[Kain]

Originally posted by lockwoodx:

Originally posted by speaker2:

Seem somebody have play more mods than the actual games.

never played with any mods sorry

edit: You are so tanky in this stalker compared to the original it's almost comical. unfortunately they are tanky too.

Original or originals? Because I'm playing CS and you and the enemies go out like nothing and armor is made of toilet paper.

Are we specifically talking about SoC? Because I replayed the og for 30 min and it's exactly the same, same spongy enemies that take multiple headshots, artifacts literally EVERYWHERE, tons and tons of resources in every corner, spongy protagonist.

[lockwoodx]

Originally posted by Kain:

Originally posted by lockwoodx:

never played with any mods sorry

edit: You are so tanky in this stalker compared to the original it's almost comical. unfortunately they are tanky too.

Original or originals? Because I'm playing CS and you and the enemies go out like nothing and armor is made of toilet paper.

Are we specifically talking about SoC? Because I replayed the og for 30 min and it's exactly the same, same spongy enemies that take multiple headshots, artifacts literally EVERYWHERE, tons and tons of resources in every corner, spongy protagonist.

I am talking about SoC remaster. It's far more tanky than original.

[[mad.] 13AKES]

Originally posted by HunterKiller:

I'm having a similar issue with the shotguns. They don't reload as they should. Been hammered to death several time due to, no shells loaded, manually or, auto. Never had this problem in the OG. :sad_creep:

I don't like getting kill due to, some stupid game mechanic. :caster_mad:

this, its got me killed a lot, especially as you reload, guy appears around the corner as you lure him in and CLICK, misfire and he unloads into my face or I barely escape, fall back ready to ambush again, CLICK, reload, CLICK as I peek corner

this has happened on both my pistol (90+% cond) and shotgun 70-80%

ready to just uninstall and go back to modded OG.

[[mad.] 13AKES]

for info, no mods or workshop content installed, would like to experience it fresh.

[speaker2]

Originally posted by mad. 13AKES:

Originally posted by HunterKiller:

I'm having a similar issue with the shotguns. They don't reload as they should. Been hammered to death several time due to, no shells loaded, manually or, auto. Never had this problem in the OG. :sad_creep:

I don't like getting kill due to, some stupid game mechanic. :caster_mad:

this, its got me killed a lot, especially as you reload, guy appears around the corner as you lure him in and CLICK, misfire and he unloads into my face or I barely escape, fall back ready to ambush again, CLICK, reload, CLICK as I peek corner

this has happened on both my pistol (90+% cond) and shotgun 70-80%

ready to just uninstall and go back to modded OG.

In Shadow of Chernobyl there are 3 values in w_[weapon_name].ltx file, which define weapon's durability:

misfire_probability - defines probability out of 100% that a weapon will jam,
misfire_condition_k, which, compounded by the probability, defines chance for a weapon to misfire,
condition_shot_dec - defines how much each shot damages weapon (i.e. value 0.0001 means that it will take 10000 shots to totally damage weapon in mint condition).

https://stalker.fandom.com/wiki/Durability

I don't know if help or not, but the wiki is clear that weapon jam is not a set value but PURE RNG.

EDIT: LOL there a lot tread having the same issue, https://steamcommunity.com/app/4500/discussions/0/357284767243663424/