Is this game worth it?

[Mosh]

Hello.. I want some opinions as if this game is even worth picking up.. I'm debating this or season pass for shadow of mordor or another game. Opinions please.

[ed]

I think it's very worth it. Just be aware that this game is stealth-required, not "stealth is optional and you can also just kill fifty guys in straightforward melee with your guns and superpowers."

EDIT: If you look at the store page, Styx has been sitting at 85% positive reviews for quite a while now (it used to be about 85% positive at half the current number of reviews, and it's still maintaining that average). That should tell you something, I think. :)

[Mosh]

Originally posted by ed:

I think it's very worth it. Just be aware that this game is stealth-required, not "stealth is optional and you can also just kill fifty guys in straightforward melee with your guns and superpowers."

EDIT: If you look at the store page, Styx has been sitting at 85% positive reviews for quite a while now (it used to be about 85% positive at half the current number of reviews, and it's still maintaining that average). That should tell you something, I think. :)

So only stealth? That said.. If I'm going to be stealth through the whole game then what makes it fun? Do you get new weapons? Abilties or some sort of special executions? Nice Open world/story? Can you explain how a stealth only game is fun? Not saying it's bad but would like you to explain some of the features to me.
I'll be honest.. I like going in and beating ♥♥♥♥ up.. But if theres nice features about this game that makes the stealth only fun.. then I'll concider it... just explain :3

[ed]

Originally posted by Moshunz:

So only stealth?

It's a stealth game. You will be punished if you try to fight all the time.

Originally posted by Moshunz:

That said.. If I'm going to be stealth through the whole game then what makes it fun? Do you get new weapons? Abilties or some sort of special executions? Nice Open world/story? Can you explain how a stealth only game is fun? Not saying it's bad but would like you to explain some of the features to me.
I'll be honest.. I like going in and beating ♥♥♥♥ up.. But if theres nice features about this game that makes the stealth only fun.. then I'll concider it... just explain :3

If you don't think stealth games are fun you probably won't enjoy this no matter what other features there are, as it is a stealth game. I'm honestly not sure how I'm supposed to explain "some people find stealth games fun" in a way that will change your mind.

[Mosh]

Originally posted by ed:

Originally posted by Moshunz:

So only stealth?

It's a stealth game. You will be punished if you try to fight all the time.

Originally posted by Moshunz:

That said.. If I'm going to be stealth through the whole game then what makes it fun? Do you get new weapons? Abilties or some sort of special executions? Nice Open world/story? Can you explain how a stealth only game is fun? Not saying it's bad but would like you to explain some of the features to me.
I'll be honest.. I like going in and beating ♥♥♥♥ up.. But if theres nice features about this game that makes the stealth only fun.. then I'll concider it... just explain :3

If you don't think stealth games are fun you probably won't enjoy this no matter what other features there are, as it is a stealth game. I'm honestly not sure how I'm supposed to explain "some people find stealth games fun" in a way that will change your mind.

I found Dishonored fun.. However I was looking at the behind executions and all I was seeing was two options which was a loud execution and a quiet execution? And when I was watching it all I saw was just a blue circle and that's it.. Which I thought was very un-interesting.. Though it was the beggining of the game.. So throughout the game are you just going behind.. Holding a button until the blue circle finishes or is there some interesting executions?

[ed]

Originally posted by Moshunz:

However I was looking at the behind executions and all I was seeing was two options which was a loud execution and a quiet execution?

There are only two assassination moves when standing right behind someone (quick and loud, slow and quiet, or occasionally the third option of pushing them off a ledge if the environment allows it) because that's all you will ever need in that specific situation.

There are a lot of other means of killing people in the game, but it's all about the situation and different tactics rather than having ten different cutscenes you can trigger by walking behind someone.

[Mosh]

Originally posted by ed:

Originally posted by Moshunz:

However I was looking at the behind executions and all I was seeing was two options which was a loud execution and a quiet execution?

There are only two assassination moves when standing right behind someone (quick and loud, slow and quiet) because that's all you will ever need in that specific situation.

There are a lot of other means of killing people in the game, but it's all about the situation and different tactics rather than having ten different cutscenes you can trigger by walking behind someone.

Does the game over a lot of exploration and tons of alterntiive ♥♥♥♥ to do based on the story? Does it have decent replay value and do you get any new weapons by any chance? Are there like quests and etc. I'm trying to pull myself to buy it but I'm trying to see if it's something I'd actually enjoy... I like going in and killing ♥♥♥♥ but I want a stealth game that would keep me interested... Like the only complaint I have is all of the killing I see from the intro is just you going behind the enemy and holding a button until the blu circle finishes... Like I want to buy it but I'm totally not sure if it's something I'd enjoy... People say the world is huge but still curious if theres quests and etc.

[ed]

Originally posted by Moshunz:

Does the game over a lot of exploration

Yes.

Originally posted by Moshunz:

and tons of alterntiive ♥♥♥♥ to do based on the story?

I'm not sure what you're asking with this one.

Originally posted by Moshunz:

Does it have decent replay value

Yes. You can get extra skill points by accomplishing various bonus objectives and challenges for each level, and will have to replay each map more than once to do them all since things like "speed run" and "find all the coins" would be ridiculous to attempt in the same playthrough.

Originally posted by Moshunz:

and do you get any new weapons by any chance?

No. You are supposed to use the environment, your skills/magic and a lot of trickery, you're never going to get a laser gun or anything.

Originally posted by Moshunz:

Are there like quests and etc.

There are a whole bunch of bonus objectives, like I said.

Originally posted by Moshunz:

Like the only complaint I have is all of the killing I see from the intro is just you going behind the enemy and holding a button until the blu circle finishes

Like I said in my other post, that's all you get IF you're standing right behind the enemy. There are many other ways to kill targets, but they are different tactical approaches rather than "look at this sweet new cutscene I can trigger by standing behind a guard."

[FuzzyLogic]

You are riding on the kills angle so much I don't think this game is for you. The real challenge is to find your route through a level without unnecessary kills and being spotted.
Killing guards is the easy way out and combat in general is a last resort. If there are more than two guards in range and you get locked in combat you are near 100% dead.

[Ledha]

you can read the test that many players made and find the answer to all of your question.

The best ability of the game is by far the creation of clones, which have maybe 10 different way to use it.

[bgm.1]

It's a good game ,not about combat , it's about stealth and working out how to get through with out being seen, For the cost $25 it's good value. I'd like to see futher developement of this game and character.

[CalUKGR]

A good game, well worth the time and money. A great stealth-'em-up in an old skool sense. If you want to fight stuff this is not for you. This is about hiding, sneaking and observation - and then some sweet stealth take downs.

Graphically, it really could have looked a lot better with a bigger budget (and dare I say it, a bit more talent in the art department), but what it does it does well enough for the price point.

Yep - a little treasure of a game, for the stealthily-minded!

[Lord Ethcaz]

Since you brought up Shadow of Mordor and having played both, I'll just share my 2 cents:

Compared to Shadow of Mordor, I invested 10% more time in Styx (as of yet) and have yet to complete the game (whereas I have pretty much got 100% in Shadow of Mordor). But I love stealth, and sneaking by unaware guards is very thrilling.
I love the combat in Shadow of Mordor, but that game is short and very repetitive compared to Styx.
The level design is way better, very diverse, the amount of alternative routes to your goal is ridiculous and the details and esthetics are just great. The story is a lot better than Shadow of Mordor as well...

So, if we consider all this, the value of Styx is way higher at 1 euro per hour gameplay, and still having to complete the game. Compared to 2 euro per hour gameplay and having finished without any reason to play more for Shadow of Mordor. And in case of the Season Pass, I'm not expecting it to add more than 2 or 3 hours of gameplay at the most, nor do I expect them to add anything game changing, so 2 or 3 hours of extra repetition is definitely not worth the 25/30 bucks they're asking for it...

But, as others have said, if you don't like stealth, you're not going to like Styx.

[Devilfish]

Seconding pretty much everything that's been said so far. I just want to add that I love both Shadow of Morder and Styx for different reasons, but the former also takes a good long while before you have a chance to become powerful and hack and slash your way through. I spent most of the beginning of that game sneaking around and running away and being frustrated too. If that's the game your going with, be prepared to be stupidly underpowered for a while too.

They both have a very different focus. SoM is a big open game that's all about choice: where to go, what to unlock, how to manipulate the world, which powers to get and so on. It offers a lot of choice and some of it will be for you, some of it won't. Styx does one thing (stealth) and does it very, very well. In SoM (for me) the gratification comes from becoming more powerful, working hard to get strong enough to take on enemies that previously kicked your ass. In Styx, the gratification comes from using what limited tools you have to do the near-impossible. For example, I feel very pleased with myself if I manage to completely clear out one of the densely packed maps with nothing but a dagger and some sand. In fact, in this game, you become MORE underpowered as the game goes on with the introduction of new enemy types. You don't gain all that much power, but they sure do.

Games are about gratification. If your fun comes from slowly gaining power, influencing the game world, making choices and exploring your favorite way to become a hack-slashing force to be reconned with, SoM is for you. If your gratification comes from being and staying severely underpowered and (through trial and error) succeeding anyway, Styx will be more your speed.

From what you've written I recommend SoM for you. But financial and time constraints notwithstanding, there's no reason not to try both. They're both great games in their own genre. And for me at least, discovering a new genre that I never knew I loved is one of the best parts of gaming.

And yes, Styx absolutely has the superior story. And it's not all that great. If story is your thing, try The Vanishing of Ethan Carter.

[Mosh]

Originally posted by Devilfish:

Seconding pretty much everything that's been said so far. I just want to add that I love both Shadow of Morder and Styx for different reasons, but the former also takes a good long while before you have a chance to become powerful and hack and slash your way through. I spent most of the beginning of that game sneaking around and running away and being frustrated too. If that's the game your going with, be prepared to be stupidly underpowered for a while too.

They both have a very different focus. SoM is a big open game that's all about choice: where to go, what to unlock, how to manipulate the world, which powers to get and so on. It offers a lot of choice and some of it will be for you, some of it won't. Styx does one thing (stealth) and does it very, very well. In SoM (for me) the gratification comes from becoming more powerful, working hard to get strong enough to take on enemies that previously kicked your ass. In Styx, the gratification comes from using what limited tools you have to do the near-impossible. For example, I feel very pleased with myself if I manage to completely clear out one of the densely packed maps with nothing but a dagger and some sand. In fact, in this game, you become MORE underpowered as the game goes on with the introduction of new enemy types. You don't gain all that much power, but they sure do.

Games are about gratification. If your fun comes from slowly gaining power, influencing the game world, making choices and exploring your favorite way to become a hack-slashing force to be reconned with, SoM is for you. If your gratification comes from being and staying severely underpowered and (through trial and error) succeeding anyway, Styx will be more your speed.

From what you've written I recommend SoM for you. But financial and time constraints notwithstanding, there's no reason not to try both. They're both great games in their own genre. And for me at least, discovering a new genre that I never knew I loved is one of the best parts of gaming.

And yes, Styx absolutely has the superior story. And it's not all that great. If story is your thing, try The Vanishing of Ethan Carter.

I have Shadow of Mordor already and love it but it can be too easy at times.. and I've never heard of The Vanishing of Ethan Carter.. need to look into it

[Devilfish]

Yeah, that's a whole different genre too, but I can't help plugging that game whenever I can. It's great.

Glad you found a game you enjoy!