False Advertising (Online Co-op)

[daicon]

I preordered this game, and I distinctly remember the Steam store page listing it had Multiplayer. Now when I check the store page, it says Local Co-op only.

Based off the false pretenses I bought the game under, will Steam be able to grant me a refund? Is that even possible since the game is a Uplay game?

[Chaos Mana]

I don't remember it ever saying online, I only saw local. Sre you didn't miss-read?

[daicon]

Before the games release, I remember it saying multiplayer

[Chaos Mana]

Originally posted by daicon:

Before the games release, I remember it saying multiplayer

It never had online multiplayer or saying it

[daicon]

Before the game was released, it said it had Multi:
http://steamcommunity.com/app/242550/discussions/0/864975026969490695/

Others here confirm this as well.

[Chaos Mana]

I guess it's because I already knew they were removing it from steam. Alot of people thought it'd be a Wii U Exclussive too. I only play Monster Hunter on my Wii U so no way I buy other games on it yet unless a good one comes

[Sephrax]

Originally posted by daicon:

Before the game was released, it said it had Multi:
http://steamcommunity.com/app/242550/discussions/0/864975026969490695/

Others here confirm this as well.

"A multiplayer video game is a video game in which more than one person can play in the same game environment at the same time."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiplayer_video_game

Only some Steam users think Multiplayer means only online co-op.

[daicon]

Originally posted by Sephrax:

"A multiplayer video game is a video game in which more than one person can play in the same game environment at the same time."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiplayer_video_game

Only some Steam users think Multiplayer means only online co-op.

There's no need to be petty and link wikipedia articles in an attempt to insult someone.

...I don't think it's unreasonable to assume that Multiplayer means Co-op in this type of game. Some even feel Ubisoft was intentionally vague in this.

[himmatsj]

Dude, multiplayer DOES NOT mean online co-op. If there is online co-op, it will be EXPLICITLY mentioned. See games such as Trine 2.

Multiplayer could mean competitive online modes. What we assumed was it meant the Kung Foot mode was online.

Either way, you can seek a refund if you want to on grounds of false advertising. This is especially true since they've removed the Multiplayer word from the listing.

['Enz0.]

It had multiplayer because local co-op IS MULTIplayer, there are multiple players in local co-op right? What, if it's local co-op it becomes single player? This thread is silly.

[daicon]

Originally posted by 'Badger.:

It had multiplayer because local co-op IS MULTIplayer, there are multiple players in local co-op right? What, if it's local co-op it becomes single player? This thread is silly.

You do realize that on Steam storepages, they differentiate the two, and if it says "Multiplayer", on Steam, it means online game, right?

This isn't about shallow semantics or the definition of "multiplayer".

[Shamanalah]

Is Super Smash Bros. on Gamecube Multiplayer? Yes.

Is Rayman Legends Multiplayer? Yes.

Does it have online co-op? No it does not...

[daicon]

Originally posted by Joe_sblg_QC:

Is Super Smash Bros. on Gamecube Multiplayer? Yes.

Is Rayman Legends Multiplayer? Yes.

Does it have online co-op? No it does not...

As I already stated above.. on the Steam storepage, if it lists "Multiplayer" it speaks for online, not local. Local has a seperate tag all together "Local Co-op"

http://store.steampowered.com/app/34288/

See this game here? It has 2 player versus locally. Does it list on the storepage under its features "Multiplayer"? No, it doesn't. Infact, it lists it as Local Co-op even though its Local Competitive.

See where this is going? Rayman Legends listed itself as "Multiplayer" and "Co-op" like L4D2's storepage does only until a few days before release where it was changed. That lead me to think the game had Online Co-op, so I preordered two copies for me and my friend.

This isn't about semantics or labels, so please don't bring that here like it's relevent to the discussion.

[Sephrax]

Originally posted by daicon:

Originally posted by 'Badger.:

It had multiplayer because local co-op IS MULTIplayer, there are multiple players in local co-op right? What, if it's local co-op it becomes single player? This thread is silly.

You do realize that on Steam storepages, they differentiate the two, and if it says "Multiplayer", on Steam, it means online game, right?

This isn't about shallow semantics or the definition of "multiplayer".

Does "local co-op" mean singleplayer then?

Local co-op is also really limiting.

For example: all local modes for this game are co-op? no competitive play at all?
http://store.steampowered.com/app/212480/

There should be these tags too for games so you can easily find the right game for you:
- local ctf
- local deathmatch
- local domination
- local team deathmatch
- local onslaught
- local last man standing
... and list goes on...

[daicon]

Maybe there should be that many tags or atleast a couple more.

In Steam's case the only tag that talks about local play is Local Co-op and they use it to reference -any- type of local play. Rayman had mistakenly listed modes it didn't have and pre-launch it was vague at best about whether it had online co-op..

Anyway I'll see where support swings it.. Not too hopeful since I already registered it to my Uplay

[himmatsj]

Originally posted by daicon:

Originally posted by Joe_sblg_QC:

Is Super Smash Bros. on Gamecube Multiplayer? Yes.

Is Rayman Legends Multiplayer? Yes.

Does it have online co-op? No it does not...

As I already stated above.. on the Steam storepage, if it lists "Multiplayer" it speaks for online, not local. Local has a seperate tag all together "Local Co-op"

http://store.steampowered.com/app/34288/

See this game here? It has 2 player versus locally. Does it list on the storepage under its features "Multiplayer"? No, it doesn't. Infact, it lists it as Local Co-op even though its Local Competitive.

See where this is going? Rayman Legends listed itself as "Multiplayer" and "Co-op" like L4D2's storepage does only until a few days before release where it was changed. That lead me to think the game had Online Co-op, so I preordered two copies for me and my friend.

This isn't about semantics or labels, so please don't bring that here like it's relevent to the discussion.

Wrong. Rayman Legends never listed "Co-op". NEVER. It was always just "Multiplayer" and "Local co-op".