[MOD][LUA] Better Bots

[Schmuddel]

Mod's dead, leave me alone.

[(-MAF-) fize4ever]

I think this mod is not mandatory so, if someone thinks it will make the game too easy he can play without it. I think this mod will help many people to get their golden mask.

[Schmuddel]

引用自 fize4ever：

I think this mod is not mandatory so, if someone thinks it will make the game too easy he can play without it. I think this mod will help many people to get their golden mask.

I removed basically every feature that gave the bots better survival or combative abilities and left everything that generally improves the AI. I didn't really see how it could be considered a cheat before but even less so now. Nothing new though, the PD2 version has been plagued with that kind of whining since release.

[Greenlove]

引用自 fize4ever：

I think this mod will help many people to get their golden mask.

*facepalm*

Play online, do it with a Team. On this way you can learn how to play better.
Finding friends and so on .... but ok you can stay a noob and rely on your bots instead of teammates.

[(-MAF-) fize4ever]

引用自 DorentuZ`：

fize4ever, have you ever considered that those challenges aren't meant to be completed on Overkill 145+? Actually that difficulty isn't even meant to be done solo that's why it's so hard. Of course you can still do it, but then it should be a really difficult challenge.

I know that those challenges aren't meant to be completed on Overkill 145+ and for that reason I wanted to increase the madness in my solo runs but, unfortunatley I failed to save Ai from custody in PR, SH and no mercy loud :(
Glad that you are not mad at me :)

[(-MAF-) fize4ever]

引用自 Weedlove：

引用自 fize4ever：

I think this mod will help many people to get their golden mask.

*facepalm*

Play online, do it with a Team. On this way you can learn how to play better.
Finding friends and so on .... but ok you can stay a noob and rely on your bots instead of teammates.

R u sure that I need team or I need any help in this game? just type my name in youtube to see all 7 heists solo overkill + 145 and my advice to you never contempt what other people did again.

Being able to get golden mask solo no down no civilain killed no DLC does not mean to forget about people who got stuck to get golden mask.

[Schmuddel]

引用自 fize4ever：

Being able to get golden mask no down no civilain killed no DLC does not mean to forget about people who got stuck to get golden mask.

My goal was to keep the game from totally dying due to lack of players and the impending release of Payday 3 but it seems like a sizeable portion of those who still play this game are content to complain about it. I guess I should've expected that; the crowd that still plays L4D2 is filled with much of the same pettiness.

[(-MAF-) fize4ever]

引用自 DorentuZ`：

So I decided to test out the better bots mod to see how OP the bots are now. Well, it made Heat Street 145+ in Mulitplayer mode even easier than the regular 'hard' difficulty. I think that says enough...

http://imgur.com/T2MQYCu

2 questions if u do not mind:

1. Did u check PR & SH problem is it fixed or not yet?
2. Do u have a vedio for this run so, we can see what happened to Ai because this image showing u did it no down and I am not shocked about beating HS ovk145 no down because I know all heists can be done solo no down but, beating HS ovk 145 solo in less than 30 mins I think that means something abnormal happened to the game.

[(-MAF-) fize4ever]

引用自 Schmuddel：

引用自 fize4ever：

Being able to get golden mask no down no civilain killed no DLC does not mean to forget about people who got stuck to get golden mask.

My goal was to keep the game from totally dying due to lack of players and the impending release of Payday 3 but it seems like a sizeable portion of those who still play this game are content to complain about it. I guess I should've expected that; the crowd that still plays L4D2 is filled with much of the same pettiness.

There is a proverb says ( Making all people satisfied is an impossible goal ) which means what ever you do in your life u might find some people disagree with you.

If you see that your mod gonna improve the game and gonna help many people then please go ahead do not hesitate to keep up your pro job and if some people find your mod makes the game very easy they can simply play without it instead of keep complaining .

Just think about how many people you would help by this nice mod.

God bless you and lead you to heaven I wish you the best.

[Schmuddel]

引用自 fize4ever：

引用自 DorentuZ`：

So I decided to test out the better bots mod to see how OP the bots are now. Well, it made Heat Street 145+ in Mulitplayer mode even easier than the regular 'hard' difficulty. I think that says enough...

http://imgur.com/T2MQYCu

2 questions if u do not mind:

1. Did u check PR & SH problem is it fixed or not yet?
2. Do u have a vedio for this run so, we can see what happened to Ai because this image showing u did it no down and I am not shocked about beating HS ovk145 no down because I know all heists can be done solo no down but, beating HS ovk 145 solo in less than 30 mins I think that means something abnormal happened to the game.

First "official" version out soon. Any issues with bots getting stuck like on Panic Room should be fixed as of version Beta2. Working on getting them to actually sit still if they're in cover or within range of the player (I'm tempted to call it the "adderall update" but I doubt ModWorkshop will go for it).

[Schmuddel]

Changelog, version Final:

• Dropped DorHUD support in favour of WTFBM HUD
  
• Improved the bots' ability to detect if their current cover is actually protecting them
  
• Cleaned up and trimmed the code overall
  
• Added some checks to keep the bots from randomly running around for no reason, even if they are close to the player
  
• Slightly improved the bots' ability to detect if they are near the player and are visible to them
  
• Fixed an error related to a slight typo

[DDoom]

So I've installed WTFBM since your latest release requires it to run with DORHUD and now I don't know if the mod is working or not. It doesn't appear under the DORHUD Enabled Mods menu. How can I make sure it is working?
The bots are using AMCARs but I don't know if that is enough to prove it.

EDIT - Well I just played Heat Street SP and both Wolf and Hoxton were using MP5s instead of AMCARs. Also no bot would tell Matt to move, which the mod enables. I suppose it isn't working, then.

Just to make it clear I'm using DORHUD AND WTFBM, and as far as I know they are compatible. The BetterBots folder is inside the lua folder, which is inside the lib folder in the root PDTH folder as per the instructions.

EDIT 2 - I just read about the .dll file that I can't add to the folder without breaking DORHUD. Guess you just can't have it both ways, then. Pity.

[DorentuZ`]

WTFBM has absolutely nothing to do with this other than being mentioned in the patch notes. It probably sounded better that way than just saying DorHUD is no longer supported. But nothing has really changed there either. It still works, you just have to do it manually rather than extracting a folder from the zip. See the first page of this thread.

[Lord_Manship]

引用自 DorentuZ`：

WTFBM has absolutely nothing to do with this other than being mentioned in the patch notes. It probably sounded better that way than just saying DorHUD is no longer supported. But nothing has really changed there either. It still works, you just have to do it manually rather than extracting a folder from the zip. See the first page of this thread.

Actually, I tried converting the final release to a sub module, but, while the game loaded fine, and I was able to start a game, the moment the bots tried to navigate to my new position, the game crashed. I have zero ideas why. I would love to use this mod again, but I prefer to keep DorHUD over this mod if the two isn't compatible.

[Schmuddel]

引用自 Lord_Manship：

引用自 DorentuZ`：

WTFBM has absolutely nothing to do with this other than being mentioned in the patch notes. It probably sounded better that way than just saying DorHUD is no longer supported. But nothing has really changed there either. It still works, you just have to do it manually rather than extracting a folder from the zip. See the first page of this thread.

Actually, I tried converting the final release to a sub module, but, while the game loaded fine, and I was able to start a game, the moment the bots tried to navigate to my new position, the game crashed. I have zero ideas why. I would love to use this mod again, but I prefer to keep DorHUD over this mod if the two isn't compatible.

What did the crash log say?

[Lord_Manship]

引用自 Schmuddel：

引用自 Lord_Manship：

Actually, I tried converting the final release to a sub module, but, while the game loaded fine, and I was able to start a game, the moment the bots tried to navigate to my new position, the game crashed. I have zero ideas why. I would love to use this mod again, but I prefer to keep DorHUD over this mod if the two isn't compatible.

What did the crash log say?

Well... assuming it's the mdmp file that's produced after crashing, and after sifting through it... I think this was the cause:

Current thread: Main
Script stack:
     find_cover_in_nav_seg_2()  lib/managers/navigationmanager.lua:1329             
              get_cover_data()  @dorhud/betterbots/betterbots.lua:308               
_determine_destination_occupation()  @dorhud/betterbots/betterbots.lua:434               
         _get_exact_move_pos()  lib/units/player_team/logics/teamailogictravel.lua:642  
                      update()  lib/units/player_team/logics/teamailogictravel.lua:181  
                                lib/units/enemies/cop/copbrain.lua:113    

If you want the full crashlog I'll have to upload to somewhere...