HoloCure - Save the Fans!

HoloCure - Save the Fans!

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Are all the characters from HoloLive or are they from other agencies/independents?
Hi. I'm kinda newbish when it comes to the whole vtubing scene as I only really watch one vtuber currently. Tried checking the store page but it didn't help me either.

I know Vtubing agencies are a thing and assume what's what the majority of the characters are from, but are all characters from HoloLive or are there any from outside that agency in the game?

If the game only includes HoloLive talents, is there any known plans by the creators to include vtubers from outside of HoloLive? Such as independents?

I doubt a steam discussion is going to stir much but I'm curious if there's any potential for someone like Neuro Sama to be one day be added.
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To 4t2, I did read the store page but "Play as your favorite Vtubers from Hololive!" only tells me that there are members from Hololive.
As I said at the beginning, I'm not well educated on vtuber culture. When I see all these different "holo-" groups it is hard for someone like me to tell if these are all from the same agency, or if they are from different agencies with similar names.
Again, "Play as your favorite Vtubers from Hololive!" is an affirmation of content is there, not an affirmation on what content is not there.

The store page is rather short in it's "About The Game" which is what I read initially which is rather short. Only being a single paragraph.
and "featuring the vtuber talents of Hololive and its surrounding community" doesn't help.
"Surrounding Community"
Again, look at this from the point of someone who isn't hugely knowledgable on Hololive. What does "Surrounding Community" mean to someone like me? Because to me it sounds like it's including fan content, which could include vtubers that aren't directly affiliated.

Sorry if this question is brought up a lot on the discussions page, but unless you have a way to contact the creator to make the Store Page more specific, the page doesn't exactly say "Hololive only"
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And that kind of thing totally stopped Smash from having guest characters, right? Same for Mega Man X Dive, right? And Mario Maker? And the Naruto Ultimate Ninja Storm games? And Mario Kart? And Clay Fighter? And Mario Hoops?

those guest character didnt appear in those game for free... whenever a character from other game made an apparent in other game, they only could do so because they paid for those character to be appeared in the game... fan game dont have those luxury, they could add in but the company might take action for copyright infringement... this is one of the main reason why fan game or fan remake of a game often get taken down...

the main reason there are many hololive fans project and not much from other agency is because cover corp give permission to use their copyrighted material for free as long as those fan project is not a commercial project, aka they cant make money from it...
En son zero.calvin tarafından düzenlendi; 26 Ağu 2023 @ 9:48
So far, all the characters, talents, references, etc you see in this game are current or former Hololive members, with three current management/support staff as the bosses you can face. It is very likely to remain so, since this game is a passion project.

There are a number of family/friend/support staff/etc who are also vtubers or almost vtubers, who have a personal or working relationship with Hololive members, however they are unlikely to be in this game, since they are not official debuted Hololive members.

Purposely, the name of the main developer for this game is not even in the credits. He is also a creative part of one of Hololive's Calliope Mori & Gawr Gura animated music videos called 「Q」.

Hololive as a company seems pretty chilled about their copyrights. On the creative & fandom side, at this point they are going to be the next Touhou or Vocaloid only larger, as a demonstrator & incubator for creative & support talents. These creative & support talents are part of this surrounding community. Just like Touhou or Vocaloid, those many fan made arts, "comic"/manga shorts, animated shorts, full anime, songs, games, mods, etc don't just create or make themselves. `
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And that kind of thing totally stopped Smash from having guest characters, right? Same for Mega Man X Dive, right? And Mario Maker? And the Naruto Ultimate Ninja Storm games? And Mario Kart? And Clay Fighter? And Mario Hoops?

those guest character didnt appear in those game for free... whenever a character from other game made an apparent in other game, they only could do so because they paid for those character to be appeared in the game... fan game dont have those luxury, they could add in but the company might take action for copyright infringement... this is one of the main reason why fan game or fan remake of a game often get taken down...

the main reason there are many hololive fans project and not much from other agency is because cover corp give permission to use their copyrighted material for free as long as those fan project is not a commercial project, aka they cant make money from it...
That only matters if the owners of the characters in question are against it or demand money from for it. Obviously, some Vtubers would be harder to get than others. An indie Vtuber for example, would probably just be glad to be featured or wouldn't care & they wouldn't have a company above them saying it's not okay.

Meanwhile, any big company would be a more complex issue because they might worry about their Vtubers being in a game with other Vtubers they can't control since one of them could always pull a PewDiePie or a JonTron & suddenly those companies might not wanna be associated.
Game would probably need to be re-branded for less emphasis on holo, unless he could get their blessing on it. I think the last thing they want it for their passion project to become a legal hellhole.
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To 4t2, I did read the store page but "Play as your favorite Vtubers from Hololive!" only tells me that there are members from Hololive.
Seems pretty straight foward, and it's true as of now.
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When I see all these different "holo-" groups it is hard for someone like me to tell if these are all from the same agency, or if they are from different agencies with similar names.
Hololive and Holostars are the only vtuber companies that start with "Holo-". Both of them are owned by the same company, Cover Corp. as Hololive is the female branch and Holostars is the male branch. There are a very small number of other vtuber companies that have "holo" somewhere in their name, but they're significantly smaller, and I don't think any newer companies dare do that since it's probably a lawsuit liability.
There is talk that Holostars might be added to the game once all of Hololive is added. The description would probably become, "Play as your favorite Vtubers from Hololive and Holostars!".
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"featuring the vtuber talents of Hololive and its surrounding community" doesn't help.
"Surrounding Community"
Again, look at this from the point of someone who isn't hugely knowledgable on Hololive. What does "Surrounding Community" mean to someone like me? Because to me it sounds like it's including fan content, which could include vtubers that aren't directly affiliated.
Surrounding community likely refers to staff members that show up in the shop and references, and the fans. The enemies in the game are the mascots characters for their respective fanbases.
Why would an unaffiliated vtuber be considered fan content? Vtubers that hololive members have collaborated with such as Neuro-sama didn't create their personas specifically for Hololive. If everyone they ever collaborated with was considered part of the community, this game would feature people like Jered Leto and Robert Paterson. Even then, any outside people would likely just be referenced, not become playable characters.
En son Kryll tarafından düzenlendi; 26 Ağu 2023 @ 22:20
Just as a side note, while officially it is strictly all Hololive/Holostars characters getting added (alongside the various references in game) , there are other, albeit unofficial ways , or rather, mods, by which people add characters that are not part of Hololive.

However, it should be noted that they are only mods and are not officially supported in any way shape or form, and should definitely never be promoted in any official capacity whatsoever. While Cover owns the rights and the IP to pretty much all the game’s content, they are giving the devs a lot of trust and responsibility to handle it well. Hence the avoidance of any form of modding support, I.e. do whatever at your own risk or don’t do it at all.

There are two that I know whose fanbases have made mods for HoloCure, which is Reiny Ch. (character palette swap) and Pipkin Pippa (her own banner and character slot) - however the latter was subjected to some controversy due to usage of a certain build of the game, so at present the dev and modder aren’t on good terms… hopefully they can peacefully sort things out.
En son Zederech tarafından düzenlendi; 16 Eyl 2023 @ 5:03
holo...cure, nah its a nijisanji fan game.
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this is a hololive fan game, so why would it contain non hololive vtuber? it's like going to pizza huts to order a big mac..
funny how they think you were rude when you stated the facts lmao. Its H O L O C U R E, also sir this is a wendy's.
There won't be any non Cover Corp vtubers.
The reason this game is allowed to exist and use Cover's copyrighted characters is because the game has to follow their guidelines and approval. The creator said on Twitter that mods won't ever be allowed for that reason.

There will be other Hololive characters though, as the game is still missing quite a lot of members, and the creator said on Twitter that he plans to continue adding more characters.
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İlk olarak zero.calvin tarafından gönderildi:
this is a hololive fan game, so why would it contain non hololive vtuber? it's like going to pizza huts to order a big mac..
funny how they think you were rude when you stated the facts lmao. Its H O L O C U R E, also sir this is a wendy's.
Because their "facts" make no sense & don't add to the conversation. Lots of games have guest characters. Also, their comparison is baffling. It's not like ordering a Big Mac (a trademarked burger) at a Pizza Hut(s!?!?). It's like asking someone if Pizza Hut has a specific type of pizza you like that doesn't seem like something they'd make but isn't 100% definitely off the table just so you know before you go.

Like Pizza Hut probably doesn't make chocolate pizza but it wouldn't be unreasonable to ask if they do when someone's going to Pizza Hut & asking you what you want.
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funny how they think you were rude when you stated the facts lmao. Its H O L O C U R E, also sir this is a wendy's.
Because their "facts" make no sense & don't add to the conversation. Lots of games have guest characters. Also, their comparison is baffling. It's not like ordering a Big Mac (a trademarked burger) at a Pizza Hut(s!?!?). It's like asking someone if Pizza Hut has a specific type of pizza you like that doesn't seem like something they'd make but isn't 100% definitely off the table just so you know before you go.

Like Pizza Hut probably doesn't make chocolate pizza but it wouldn't be unreasonable to ask if they do when someone's going to Pizza Hut & asking you what you want.
he stated the fact its a holo fan game. That adds and finishes the convo.
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Because their "facts" make no sense & don't add to the conversation. Lots of games have guest characters. Also, their comparison is baffling. It's not like ordering a Big Mac (a trademarked burger) at a Pizza Hut(s!?!?). It's like asking someone if Pizza Hut has a specific type of pizza you like that doesn't seem like something they'd make but isn't 100% definitely off the table just so you know before you go.

Like Pizza Hut probably doesn't make chocolate pizza but it wouldn't be unreasonable to ask if they do when someone's going to Pizza Hut & asking you what you want.
he stated the fact its a holo fan game. That adds and finishes the convo.
While he did state fact it could have been said in a nicer way. OP said he was newbish in terms of vtubers and asked an honest question and got a snarky answer
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he stated the fact its a holo fan game. That adds and finishes the convo.
While he did state fact it could have been said in a nicer way. OP said he was newbish in terms of vtubers and asked an honest question and got a snarky answer
how he picked to reply sounded fine to me, an answer is an answer I wouldnt have take that rudely. Though ill apologize on my part since i was on my phone at the time with pretty bad vision i guessed i missed the first line and read down from "I know Vtubing agencies are a thing and assume what's what the majority of the characters are from," so thats my mistake.
Some of these replies are insane. There is NEVER a good reason to be jerk or worse when someone asks a simple question. If you are incapable of being civil when someone asks a question then stay quiet and move on and maybe seek professional help to improve your social skills.

At least a couple people on here understand this since they actually answered the question instead of treating OP like an idiot. I swear for some people their head would explode if they tried not being a jerk.
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