Achievement "Skill Issue" need to update the description.

[[GOD] DIFUNTO666]

I noticed some people are having trouble to understand how to obtain this achievement. Imo I think the description should be changed from "Clear stage mode without having any Character Skills (Fandom off)" to "Clear stage mode without picking any Character's Skills with the Fandom upgrade turned off".
Yeah I know it's very obvious but at first glance and for non-english speakers may be confusing, I have to confess I also did this mistake and after 2 runs after reading the description (again) I understood the meaning of the frase, it was so obvious like 1 to 5 but if you read a sentence sometimes you may misread it lol

[Shiki Diki]

I think the problem is that people only read the (fandom off) as it seem like the tl;dr (and that's all your average joe wants to read), so your version of the phrasing would do a good job in negating that. Even though Fandom Off would now be read as a requirement instead of a hint in case you progressed through the fandom.

[[GOD] DIFUNTO666]

Originally posted by Shiki Diki:

I think the problem is that people only read the (fandom off) as it seem like the tl;dr (and that's all your average joe wants to read), so your version of the phrasing would do a good job in negating that. Even though Fandom Off would now be read as a requirement instead of a hint in case you progressed through the fandom.

Since I didn't test I don't know if it's possible to win the achievement with the fandom on BUT using a new character that has never reached the first level of fandom, if this works just deleting the word (Fandom off) woudn't be enough because people would read "Clear stage mode without having any Character Skills" it is obvious but if they already have a level of fandom they would delete the skills while playing a run but it won't work anyway and then they would realise the mistake and turn it off, it wouldn't be bad, just time consuming but describing the way I said before would be better and faster to understand like every achievement already does.

[BerserkGriffon]

Originally posted by GOD DIFUNTO666:

Originally posted by Shiki Diki:

I think the problem is that people only read the (fandom off) as it seem like the tl;dr (and that's all your average joe wants to read), so your version of the phrasing would do a good job in negating that. Even though Fandom Off would now be read as a requirement instead of a hint in case you progressed through the fandom.

Since I didn't test I don't know if it's possible to win the achievement with the fandom on BUT using a new character that has never reached the first level of fandom, if this works just deleting the word (Fandom off) woudn't be enough because people would read "Clear stage mode without having any Character Skills" it is obvious but if they already have a level of fandom they would delete the skills while playing a run but it won't work anyway and then they would realise the mistake and turn it off, it wouldn't be bad, just time consuming but describing the way I said before would be better and faster to understand like every achievement already does.

Thanks, I reound all my upgrades to gete the achievement with fandom off, but now I know it's a no Skill run <3

[HeraldOfOpera]

I don't even have any fandom bonuses to disable yet, and the achievement popped just fine.

[Magic Toast]

Was it shortened because of description limitations?

[Hurkyl]

Originally posted by Shogun Gari:

Was it shortened because of description limitations?

No, it was lengthened for clarification. Because it's easy to overlook the fact that you start with skills if you have fandom ranks.