Question on gear

[Etho]

Played the first one very hard and it was a blast. Now Iam playing FW and think that the gear is way worse than in the first game. The combination of weapons and its ammon is insane.
The weapon wheel is not enough if I want to exploit weaknesses every time.

Whats the gameplay here?
Do You upgrade everything also that is not on the wheel?

[Evilsod]

Originally posted by TheAspieFox:

My rule of thumb: If it's not Purple or Orange rarity, it's not worth upgrading past Lv 1 or 2. Lol.

What? Let's face it, the upgrade requirements for green/blue weapons and armour is next to nothing. The only problematic ones are any that require Greenshine, as that's less straight forward. Not upgrading your gear is just going to give you problems that aren't necessary.

It's important to note that outside of specific ammo types you want to exploit, a base level higher tier weapon is weaker than a maxed out lower tier one. The same is even more true for armour, where the stronger ones always have massive weaknesses to certain elements that would be crippling until it's at least level 4.

@OP - Ammo types in this game are a little annoying, unfortunately. Tbh though, the only elements worth triggering machine cells with are Sparker and Chillwater. Its absolutely worth making sure you have those 2 covered.

[TheAspieFox]

Originally posted by Etho:

Is it really that grindy? There was nothing like it in the first one. Are they slowly turning it to MH?

It's a little grindy, yeah, compared to Zero Dawn, but I wouldn't call it anything abhorrent (though I have bais and experience playing Monster Hunter, so take that for what you will). Generally speaking though, if you play on Easy/Story difficulty to grind (Upgrade) your stuff, before moving to a Ultra Hard playthrough, it's wayyyy faster and easier -- and, of course, having a reference on hand for when and how Apex monsters will spawn, to get their materials.

Like, I'm only 36 hours into the game and already almost have all my non-NG+ equipment ready and fully upgraded. I imagine it may take another 10-20 hours to finish that and to get all the other achievements and such, in preparation for my UH playthrough for *that* achievement.

[Семен БМВ]

yep

[Lycrus]

Most of the weapons really aren't great, and there is way too much bloat.
If you want to upgrade everything like I do, it is possible. But get ready for an insane grind. Half your playtime or even more will be just for grinding parts to upgrade weapons and armor. Half your playtime or even more will be just for grinding parts to upgrade weapons and armor. I'm currently 87 hours into the game and still have around 8 purple items left to upgrade and then all the legendary ones. One of the main problems will actually just be metal shards, which you'll have to grind for, too.
I havn't finished the main story yet, nor all sidequests or so either. Basicly slowly completing everything I can.
If you find the early weapons disappointing, it'll get much, much worse. Only the legendary ones actually offer some form of...good variety with a proper weapon-wheel loadout..

[Evilsod]

Originally posted by TheAspieFox:

Like, I'm only 36 hours into the game and already almost have all my non-NG+ equipment ready and fully upgraded. I imagine it may take another 10-20 hours to finish that and to get all the other achievements and such, in preparation for my UH playthrough for *that* achievement.

Dafuq? Honestly that almost sounds like you've just sacrificed your first playthrough in terms of combat so you never have to play while progressing and never really have to slog it out.

I'm at 93 hours on my first (Very Hard) playthrough and I'm only now getting close. My main quest is recommended level 30, I'm currently 63. I have a Carja's Bane, Death-Seeker's Shadow and Nora Thunder Warrior at level 4. Getting them to 5 is going to be the real pain since I've had no luck finding an Apex Slaughterspine, which everything requires.

The real problem is that you start getting all this stuff around the same time, so everything needs the same upgrade items, and you aren't likely to have most of it unless you went out of your way to kill the 'top tier' machines regularly while playing through missions, which is unlikely cos you'll be nowhere near where they spawn.
Took me so damn long to find an Apex Tremortusk, and all the Frostclaws spawn in awful locations. ><

[joridiculous]

Originally posted by Evilsod:

Originally posted by TheAspieFox:

Like, I'm only 36 hours into the game and already almost have all my non-NG+ equipment ready and fully upgraded. I imagine it may take another 10-20 hours to finish that and to get all the other achievements and such, in preparation for my UH playthrough for *that* achievement.

Dafuq? Honestly that almost sounds like you've just sacrificed your first playthrough in terms of combat so you never have to play while progressing and never really have to slog it out.

I'm at 93 hours on my first (Very Hard) playthrough and I'm only now getting close. My main quest is recommended level 30, I'm currently 63. I have a Carja's Bane, Death-Seeker's Shadow and Nora Thunder Warrior at level 4. Getting them to 5 is going to be the real pain since I've had no luck finding an Apex Slaughterspine, which everything requires.

The real problem is that you start getting all this stuff around the same time, so everything needs the same upgrade items, and you aren't likely to have most of it unless you went out of your way to kill the 'top tier' machines regularly while playing through missions, which is unlikely cos you'll be nowhere near where they spawn.
Took me so damn long to find an Apex Tremortusk, and all the Frostclaws spawn in awful locations. ><

To get the Apex, go to the place the map says, at night. Its your best bet.