Plainsong Silent Strike trial?

[jrista]

Ok. Going out of my mind here. Been trying to do the Plainsong trial where you have to kill three machines with silent strike in a minute and a half.

I have the Silent Strike+ skill, and am wearing armor that gives me bonuses to silent strike...and, I am level 60 (kind of skipped the trials thus far...) However, for the life of me, I cannot seem to kill these machines in a single strike. I thought that was the point of the Silent Strike+ skill, however...it doesn't seem to be doing the job.

I used to be able to take machines down in a single silent strike at lower levels, but somewhere along the line, that changed, and I take them down to just a little bit of health, but they don't die on the first hit. As such, its effectively impossible to silently kill your way through a field (or trial) of machines like it was earlier on in the game.

What am I missing here? Is there some other skill, valor, etc. that gives the necessary boost to kill machines in a single silent strike hit?

[skpManiac]

I noticed this and I think as you get to higher levels, the machines get harder too, so doing the easier levels at Level 60 does not always benefit you as most of the machines are Apex versions which take a lot more than a single hit.
I hope I'm wrong, but I don't think I am ;)

[jrista]

I think I figured it out... You have to hide again, such as with a smoke bomb, wait until they stop searching, then hit em again. I haven't succeeded in 1:30 though... Not yet sure if its possible.

[Laquatee]

I passed it
You need to follow attack them quickly after silent attack (i shot with bow) if you do it quick, the quest won’t fail

[acowsik]

You can always respec your skills and stack on the infiltrator tree before attempting the trial and respect the points again after completing it.

AFAIK you can do 9/12 trials without much fuss. The plasma blast trial in the hunting grounds near stone creek needs high level weapons and same with the 2nd and 3rd one in the raintree hunting ground.

I have managed to complete all 12 trials on ultra hard NG and I am yet to beat the main story even. You just need to use the right weapons and skills to be effective.

[skpManiac]

Originally posted by jrista:

I think I figured it out... You have to hide again, such as with a smoke bomb, wait until they stop searching, then hit em again. I haven't succeeded in 1:30 though... Not yet sure if its possible.

It is possible, it's just hard :)
Good luck mate

[Hydra_360ci]

If in Very Hard or lower modes.. just knock the difficulty to the easiest level... there is no achievement for beating the game on Very Hard.

On Ultra Hard (which you can't change, even if you wanted to.) smoke bombs will get you thru.... (can't really rely on the static ones placed in the arena) As for why your Alloy is too weak... I'm sure you can find something on youtube.

Anything I say would be BS... cause I don't remember.

Only things I remember is that the spear has upgraded forms and that the skill abilities (such as stealth kill +) have 2 on the skill tree and 2 on the armor. And anything above level 4 is a waste of an armor slot, cause the game caps out at level 4, even though you can get higher levels thanks to food bonuses.

[acowsik]

Originally posted by Hydra_360ci:

If in Very Hard or lower modes.. just knock the difficulty to the easiest level... there is no achievement for beating the game on Very Hard.

On Ultra Hard (which you can't change, even if you wanted to.) smoke bombs will get you thru.... (can't really rely on the static ones placed in the arena) As for why your Alloy is too weak... I'm sure you can find something on youtube.

Anything I say would be BS... cause I don't remember.

Only things I remember is that the spear has upgraded forms and that the skill abilities (such as stealth kill +) have 2 on the skill tree and 2 on the armor. And anything above level 4 is a waste of an armor slot, cause the game caps out at level 4, even though you can get higher levels thanks to food bonuses.

Ultra hard is meant to be a challenge for a reason and not for people to cheese it (you could do so on HZD NG).

As per my earlier comment, I have completed all 12 trials on UH NG. Only 3 trials are a bit tricky and you have to wait till you get better weapons and have them upgraded to a good level. The rest are definitely manageable when u visit the hunting ground for the first time while exploring.

[Hydra_360ci]

uh huh... tell me.. on the world map... do you go out of range to pepper the machines with arrows? Well guess what... ur cheesing the AI. Besides... I don't remember typing anything about cheezing Ultra Hard.

[jrista]

Well, i figured out an even better way. Using the Utaru Warden armor, along with some weaves that increase Silent Strike+, as well as the spicy wing food, I'm able to take out the burrowers in a single strike now.

Regarding dropping the difficulty level. That doesn't interest me. Even if there is not an in-game achievement, it still IS an achievement to complete the game on very hard. I think I started the game on hard, and once I realized what that difficulty level actually meant, I bumped it up to very hard. Its definitely more fun, when parts of the game are actually a challenge.

I don't think its all that fun when there seems to be no solution to a problem, which was what I felt with regards to silent strike, but now that I've figured out how to boost the power of silent strike enough (and also found a few weaves that boost my ranged damage as well, so that I am able to one-shot non-boss humans with headshots again), the game is again extremely fun. Easy mode just wouldn't hold any challenge, and I can't imagine that is very fun. For me, part of my fun is stealthing the rebel bases until I get to the boss, then I go all in on close range melee. It takes a certain amount of skill to stick an arrow in a rebel's head from the limits of the range. ;P

[Quasinerdo]

Originally posted by acowsik:

Originally posted by Hydra_360ci:

If in Very Hard or lower modes.. just knock the difficulty to the easiest level... there is no achievement for beating the game on Very Hard.

On Ultra Hard (which you can't change, even if you wanted to.) smoke bombs will get you thru.... (can't really rely on the static ones placed in the arena) As for why your Alloy is too weak... I'm sure you can find something on youtube.

Anything I say would be BS... cause I don't remember.

Only things I remember is that the spear has upgraded forms and that the skill abilities (such as stealth kill +) have 2 on the skill tree and 2 on the armor. And anything above level 4 is a waste of an armor slot, cause the game caps out at level 4, even though you can get higher levels thanks to food bonuses.

Ultra hard is meant to be a challenge for a reason and not for people to cheese it (you could do so on HZD NG).

As per my earlier comment, I have completed all 12 trials on UH NG. Only 3 trials are a bit tricky and you have to wait till you get better weapons and have them upgraded to a good level. The rest are definitely manageable when u visit the hunting ground for the first time while exploring.

Wow well done. Some of them must be a total bastard on UH.

May I ask if you have used only coils you can buy or earn or if you duplicated them through the various bugs people exploited to create uber weapon combos?

[acowsik]

Originally posted by Quasinerdo:

Wow well done. Some of them must be a total bastard on UH.

May I ask if you have used only coils you can buy or earn or if you duplicated them through the various bugs people exploited to create uber weapon combos?

I didnt use any glitches or anything... just playing the game naturally.

9 trials were actually pretty smooth sailing and I was able to clear them out with a full stripe rating when I first reached the hunting ground for the first time. 3 trials were definitely a headache so I had to come back later with better gear and more skills.

I used the best coils to beat them based on whatever I had at the time....

For the plasma blast trial (last trial in Sheerside Mountains) you def need a high level glowblast bow and vindicator spike thrower with the explosion technique and the tenakth vindicator outfit to give you extra weapon stamina where you can use two of the explosive throw technique which consumes large stamina twice without a refill. That is enough to do enough blast damage to the rollerback to count as a successful attempt. Use a large stamina potion to refill and repeat the same process again.

The second and third trials of the Raintrace one you definitely need the Elite Ropecaster (I think u can buy it in Thornmarsh) as you have to incapacitate the Tremortusk when you want to focus on the Clawstriders to make things less chaotic.