can´t find an apex thunderjaw help!

[ArtoriasOFtheAbyss]

i´m mid level 39 , almost 40, already completed the tebas main quest (where you fight an apex thunderjaw) now i´m on the beginning of the gemini main quest (not starting it yet)

and still i can´t find the apex thunderjaw

but i already fight against an apex thremortusk and even apex fireclaw , wich is level 60, much higher than a level 48 apex thunderjaw , wtf is wrong with the game?

and yes , i´m always on night time , and also on very hard dificulty, but what i find always on all thunderjaw machine icon map is the regular thunderjaw , not the apex variant

wtf is wrong with the game? and the most strange is that i only kill one or two times a fireclaw and inmediately it appears the apex version even on daytime , but i killed the regular thunderjaw 10+ times and still no apex

i don´t know wtf is wrong

[StormhawkV]

Do you fast travel from a campfire far away to a Thunderjaw site? It's the most consistent way to make an Apex spawn.

[Bird_Dog]

There seems to be an issue with Apex spawns,

I once was hunting for apex slaughterspines and I fast traveld from site to site, killing them (I do drop the difficulty for crafting grinds because I vallue what's left of my sanity) and for two consecutive nights, not a single apex spawned.
Saving, quiting to title and loading again caused one to spawn at the very next site I visited...

[BeefoTheBold]

Some things that may help.

1. Apex versions of robots are vastly (and in some cases exclusively to the best of my knowledge) likely to occur at night.

2. With the Thunderjaw in particular, it seemed to me that I had to kill a number of the normal ones and once I did, the apex variety seemed to be much more likely to spawn

3. There is one Thunderjaw site in particular that is...really easy to cheese.

There's a spot right next to a bonfire that has a broken airplane wing up at an angle that is perfect for cheesing the fight. You can get up on it, snipe it from a distance, and it will come up close but you can maneuver forward and back on top of the airplane wing and it is...just can't really hit you if you're careful.

It can't charge, because the airplane wheel blocks it. It can't tail swing, because you're elevated and the airplane wheel blocks it. Various attacks you can just step a few feet back and the airplane wheel blocks it, etc.

[Hebalon]

Possible options:
- Try to kill some more.
- Try saving and reloading (don't know whether a manual save could make a difference)
- Travel back and forth between far distant camps

Originally posted by BeefoTheBold:

There's a spot right next to a bonfire that has a broken airplane wing up at an angle that is perfect for cheesing the fight.

I liked that one as well, until I found an even better one, next to a drone location in No Man's Land. You can almost feel sorry for that poor little defenseless machine there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Djj4dpGQUT8

[Holografix]

dont fear apex thunderjaw:

- acid
- advanced hunter arrows
- spears (optional)

1. douse with acid
2. shoot off: both missile launchers, radar, tail, front plasma guns

keep dousing with acid, arrows (spears) until dead.

[ArtoriasOFtheAbyss]

thank you all guys for yours response!

i already try travel so far away from a bonfire that spawn the thunderjaw, also i tryed to quit the game to main menu and load savegame again

no luck , always the fking regular level 30 thunderjaw , and i need an apex heart to upgrade to level 3 the legendary utaru armor, as well as other weapons

someone of us have been able to find an apex thunderjaw before going trhought almost end game??? (singularity mission quest)

maybe i need to be level 50 for the apex thunderjaw spawn? i´m go now to try kill it 5 times more and check if finally respawn the apex...

[ArtoriasOFtheAbyss]

Originally posted by StormhawkV:

Do you fast travel from a campfire far away to a Thunderjaw site? It's the most consistent way to make an Apex spawn.

i already try to travel to the farest point in the map and return to the thunderjaw site and no luck lol , and as i said, that is with very hard difficulty and always on night time

[Hebalon]

Afaik the difficulty level does not affect the spawn rate of Apex machines, but I could be wrong there.

Originally posted by ArtoriasOFtheAbyss:

someone of us have been able to find an apex thunderjaw before going trhought almost end game??? (singularity mission quest)

I am not sure, but I would guess so.

Another option could be to clear the Kappa cauldron near the Greenhouse. Maybe the game just wants to bully you, and once you have the ability to override Thunderjaws, it starts spawning the Apex versions. ^^

But be careful there, this Cauldron is not that easy.

[Holografix]

Originally posted by ArtoriasOFtheAbyss:

Originally posted by StormhawkV:

Do you fast travel from a campfire far away to a Thunderjaw site? It's the most consistent way to make an Apex spawn.

i already try to travel to the farest point in the map and return to the thunderjaw site and no luck lol , and as i said, that is with very hard difficulty and always on night time

maybe higher level means apex spawns? i'm new game+ ultra hard (level 79) and I pretty much only get apex machines.

[pilotti]

Originally posted by ArtoriasOFtheAbyss:

i´m mid level 39 , almost 40, already completed the tebas main quest (where you fight an apex thunderjaw) now i´m on the beginning of the gemini main quest (not starting it yet)

and still i can´t find the apex thunderjaw

but i already fight against an apex thremortusk and even apex fireclaw , wich is level 60, much higher than a level 48 apex thunderjaw , wtf is wrong with the game?

and yes , i´m always on night time , and also on very hard dificulty, but what i find always on all thunderjaw machine icon map is the regular thunderjaw , not the apex variant

wtf is wrong with the game? and the most strange is that i only kill one or two times a fireclaw and inmediately it appears the apex version even on daytime , but i killed the regular thunderjaw 10+ times and still no apex

i don´t know wtf is wrong

Explanation for this can be found from Notebook > Tutorials > Enemies > Machine types > Apex

[ArtoriasOFtheAbyss]

Originally posted by pilotti:

Originally posted by ArtoriasOFtheAbyss:

i´m mid level 39 , almost 40, already completed the tebas main quest (where you fight an apex thunderjaw) now i´m on the beginning of the gemini main quest (not starting it yet)

and still i can´t find the apex thunderjaw

but i already fight against an apex thremortusk and even apex fireclaw , wich is level 60, much higher than a level 48 apex thunderjaw , wtf is wrong with the game?

and yes , i´m always on night time , and also on very hard dificulty, but what i find always on all thunderjaw machine icon map is the regular thunderjaw , not the apex variant

wtf is wrong with the game? and the most strange is that i only kill one or two times a fireclaw and inmediately it appears the apex version even on daytime , but i killed the regular thunderjaw 10+ times and still no apex

i don´t know wtf is wrong

Explanation for this can be found from Notebook > Tutorials > Enemies > Machine types > Apex

thank you anyway, now im level 60 and now i can find the apex thunderjaw at night almost all times , in order to appear certain apex machines you need to be level 50 , otherwise is really hard to spawn apex machines