Horizon Forbidden West™ Complete Edition

Horizon Forbidden West™ Complete Edition

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Is the story coherent in this one?
Finished Zero Dawn. Story was awful, riddled with narrative issues, plot holes, and a thinly veiled "muh global warming" plot line.

Does it get better in this one, or did they just use the same writers?
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The story continues a few months after the events of ZD which is pretty nice. You can talk to a lot of returning characters about what happened after the final battle. Later you can get insight to events during and prior to the Faro plague, filling in some blank spots or explaining some events better.

I loved ZD and I was looking forward to FW, but for me so far the quality of the writing of the main storyline in FW is a letdown. I don't want to spoil it, just a few examples.
They made Aloy very annoying, in the beginning refusing any and all help from his friends (even though she clearly needs it), because she is running out of time and she is the only one who can save the planet and they would just hold her back, in the meantime she stops at every village and helps everyone and their mothers to collect and deliver flowers to the other side of the mountains to some long lost "friend".
They also pissed, shat AND vomited on one of the major characters, killing him off-screen in the most idiotic and disappointing way possible.

The gameplay got some QoL changes, lots of new weapons and armor, skills, new machines, mounts etc. The only thing I don't like is the gear upgrade system. You will have to grind some late game machine parts if you want to upgrade your mid/late game gear to the max.
Last edited by sinsorrow1; Jan 4 @ 2:43pm
FFox Jan 5 @ 5:25am 
If you loved HZD and you think the bar is set really really high, you'll be dissapointed with HFW.
Originally posted by FFox:
If you loved HZD and you think the bar is set really really high, you'll be dissapointed with HFW.
I loved the story of ZD and I think FW set an even higher bar. Horizon 3 has all chances to be the best sci-fi game out there.
Originally posted by ybgbgl:
Finished Zero Dawn. Story was awful, riddled with narrative issues, plot holes, and a thinly veiled "muh global warming" plot line.

Does it get better in this one, or did they just use the same writers?

If you think the Story in ZD was awful (which i cant uinderstand because its awesome!), then dont touch FW.
Originally posted by Sil3nc3r-:
Originally posted by ybgbgl:
Finished Zero Dawn. Story was awful, riddled with narrative issues, plot holes, and a thinly veiled "muh global warming" plot line.

Does it get better in this one, or did they just use the same writers?

If you think the Story in ZD was awful (which i cant uinderstand because its awesome!), then dont touch FW.

Pretty much this.

I thought the story of HZD was fantastic. The characters, the backstory of the world, the voice acting...I thought it was all very well done. But if you didn't, may as well skip since it is a direct continuation of the established lore and tone.

The story of the sequel didn't hit quite as hard for me on my first playthrough on Playstation, but I'm enjoying it a lot more on a second playthrough on PC.
Originally posted by ybgbgl:
Finished Zero Dawn. Story was awful, riddled with narrative issues, plot holes, and a thinly veiled "muh global warming" plot line.

Does it get better in this one, or did they just use the same writers?

If you didn't like HZD then there is nothing for you here and i thought it was really good that we finally got to see where humans made their last stand against the machines but if you did not like the story in HZD what then in your opinion is a better story?
Originally posted by ybgbgl:
Finished Zero Dawn. Story was awful, riddled with narrative issues, plot holes, and a thinly veiled "muh global warming" plot line.

Does it get better in this one, or did they just use the same writers?

Can you provide an example of a plot hole and a narrative issue? I take narrative storytelling pretty seriously so I am curious, but I tend to not care when it comes to games so whatever issues there are I just zone out and play.
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ZemX Jan 7 @ 9:38am 
Originally posted by Doug Masters:
Can you provide an example of a plot hole and a narrative issue? I take narrative storytelling pretty seriously so I am curious, but I tend to not care when it comes to games so whatever issues there are I just zone out and play.

Odds are good OP is just trolling. The story is not about global warming. If it's warning us about anything that is even remotely politically relevant today, it's the dangers of AI development. And in that, it's hardly the first (or even the 20th) bit of sci-fi about robot apocalypses.

I also didn't spot any real plot holes either. I'll admit though I started out with a "people fighting robot dinosaurs with bows and arrows?! How the hell are the going to explain THAT?" attitude and ended with a, "I'll be damned... they explained it!" attitude.
Originally posted by ybgbgl:
Finished Zero Dawn. Story was awful, riddled with narrative issues, plot holes, and a thinly veiled "muh global warming" plot line.

Does it get better in this one, or did they just use the same writers?

It just goes to show that there are all types. If there is one thing HZD is known for, it is the amazing story. Didn't work for this person. I suppose it is like all other natural attributes. Taste is distributed under a normal distribution so there will be outliers.
ZD has my absolute favorite story, pity there isn't a book about it I can gift my mom.
FW is much less about the story.
thegame983 Jan 10 @ 10:45am 
Story in the first game was great (well the corporate stuff anyway). The story in the 2nd game is absurd.
ZemX Jan 10 @ 11:55am 
HZD has the advantage of building the world in front of us from scratch. Why are we here? Why is the world technologically regressed? What happened? And you end up assuming the most reasonable explanation was the old civ was almost wiped out and everybody got knocked back to the hunter-gatherer stage... then it's revealed to be so much weirder than that.

There's really just the one mystery left to expose in HFW: Where the extinction signal came from. The world building is mostly all done by that point and there's not a lot that's really new for us to learn. And the ending twist of HFW is just such a ham-handed set-up for a final game it's not that big a shock? Oh.. another world-ending threat? Cool.
Alcator Jan 10 @ 4:11pm 
Well, I think we can safely conclude that the "Level 0 ygbglgbglgl" troll is not coming back, so maybe we can let this thread die :-)
Originally posted by Alcator:
Well, I think we can safely conclude that the "Level 0 ygbglgbglgl" troll is not coming back, so maybe we can let this thread die :-)
i hope so
teg Jan 11 @ 9:00am 
Story in the first game was great (well the corporate stuff anyway). The story in the 2nd game is absurd.

Not just the story. Other than looks, it's a backwards step in just about every way. Melee is worse, the writing is worse, resource collection is worse, Aloy is annoying now and not heroic.

Made me wonder if they fired all the talented people.
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