memory leak is still there ?

[Merfyn]

Hi, Is the memory leak problem is still there ?
while i play, whatever the settings are, i have to ♥♥♥♥♥♥ the game every to 2 hours cause longer my session is the worst my perf are
or it's another VRAM problem for my 3070 ?
my CPU never go up more than 25% in game, the VRAM usage don't go more than 7,2 GB
nothing in background, reflex and HAGS disable, but many time i have poor FPS if i play a "long time" (more than 1h30) and sometimes i get less than 30fps in dialogs while the camera look at many characters.
it happens what ever the settings i use, in every presets.
is it just me ?

my specs :
CPU : Ryzen 7 5800x
RAM : 32GB
GPU : RTX 3070
OS : Win11
the game is installed on my secondary gen 3 NVME SSD i use only for games.

[HoboCop]

It's there for most of SONY ports and never get fixed.

[SgrtScorch]

Any game NIXXES has ported has this. Hasn't gotten fixed in any of their ports.

[acowsik]

What is your page file setting in Windows? You should never leave it on auto and should manually configure the minimum and maximum values.

[neruuk]

My spec are almost the same, but with a RTX 4090.
Never had any problems running, it runs for hours on end with no problems.
I do use DLSS swapper and swapping hasn't always the desired effect, it can lead to serious desruption in running games.

[Merfyn]

Originally posted by acowsik:

What is your page file setting in Windows? You should never leave it on auto and should manually configure the minimum and maximum values.

it's not on auto, i've configure it only on C: (on a NVME SSD dedicated for the system)
min : 8192 MB max : 16384 MB
but why it could do anything here ? i have 32GB of RAM and it's never full while i play

Originally posted by Pi=Na+Z:

It's there for most of SONY ports and never get fixed.

I know for the poor optimisation (HZD run less well than this one ...)

[acowsik]

Originally posted by Autistic Gandalf:

Originally posted by acowsik:

What is your page file setting in Windows? You should never leave it on auto and should manually configure the minimum and maximum values.

it's not on auto, i've configure it only on C: (on a NVME SSD dedicated for the system)
min : 8192 MB max : 16384 MB
but why it could do anything here ? i have 32GB of RAM and it's never full while i play

Originally posted by Pi=Na+Z:

It's there for most of SONY ports and never get fixed.

I know for the poor optimisation (HZD run less well than this one ...)

Your page file size has to be bigger than the amount of physical RAM you have....

[Merfyn]

i'll try with 1,5 times my RAM and i'll say it it's change anything.

EDIT: it seems to be that, more than 2 hours and no perf issue
thanks !

[longjohn119]

Originally posted by acowsik:

What is your page file setting in Windows? You should never leave it on auto and should manually configure the minimum and maximum values.

Wrong ..... That really hasn't been a thing since Windows XP. As long as you leave 10% or more free space on your drives auto is not a problem. Mine is set to auto and it's size is monitored on a second 7" display along with numerous other system stats and it always adjusts to what is needed, I don't have any problem with this game and had just one crash in over 200 hours but I have a 4070 Ti with 12 GB VRAM so I don't have the problems the 8 GB cards seem to have.

The problem isn't a memory leak per se but a memory allocation problem, it tends to over allocate VRAM which is mainly a problem on cards with 8 GB VRAM or less. On a 1440P Ultrawide display with max graphics I see about 10.8 GB allocated on average

[FFox]

Leave your windows paging file fully automatic managed by the system itself. It is smart on how it does it.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3205816956

I've wrote this little guide and the same guy who commented above said the same I wrote in the guide, this is an old tip sort of the myth to disable defrag on SSDs, (because windows doesnt really defrag them as it is said everywhere) There are many functions windows doesn't do anymore and there is this belief of messing around with the system features and services. I remember I was going crazy with RE8 and Hogwarts Legacy crashing ALL the time or dropping FPS to 15 with system specs over the recommended, and it was a bad manual paging file config. Set it to auto, never had an issue again.

[Merfyn]

i think what's happen in may case is :
I've not enough VRAM, but the game being poorly optimised, don't want to use the 1GB VRAM left, and want to use windows paging instead to store unused data (like the data of a region i left 30 min ago in the game). maybe i'm wrong, but when see 7 on 8 GB VRAM used and more i change location faster the perf are getting worst, so it seems to make sense

you said to let the windows paging to be auto, and in other case i would agree, but i've tried it before and the problem was worst in my case.

why ? when i've checked last time windows set it on 4892MB max, with a 16MB minimum
So i've put the half the amount of my RAM because there is nearly no case of needing 32GB in paging files unless on a workstation
the problem is the "nearly", this game seems to be one of the rare case.
so i've change that finally for 32GiB-38GiB, and last time i've played 4 hours, without any issue.
it's less space on my C: partition, but in my case it's not really a problem because i only use my primary SSD for OS partition (so it's cut in half cause i dualboot with an linux distro) ans i don't use it for personnel data, softwares or games.

i've played many demanding games, it's the first time i've seen this case,
and when i see the gaming industry i think it wont be the last.

the auto windows paging has failed me, so manually set in like a swap partition isn't a bad idea, it can be a waste of space, but in my case it's not a problem, i still had 50GB left on C

(sorry for my bad english)

[FFox]

Utilizing paging file memory instead of real ram is not the most optimal choice as it will always be slower to write and read... your best alternative is to simply utilize textures in medium, this way your GPU is going to be around 6,5gb of vram. Besides the paging file is when your system runs out of physical RAM and not related to the GPU VRAM. I know a 3070 is a powerful card but being a 8gb card makes it really useless with titlessuch as these and you have no other way but to sacrifice visual fidelity. This game is very VRAM demanding and 8gb for all "high" is not enough unfortunately. Even if myself here with another 8gb card I always use 7.2gb when the game wants to allocate more for what comes next it'll stutter like hell.

[Merfyn]

Originally posted by FFox:

Utilizing paging file memory instead of real ram is not the most optimal choice as it will always be slower to write and read... your best alternative is to simply utilize textures in medium, this way your GPU is going to be around 6,5gb of vram. Besides the paging file is when your system runs out of physical RAM and not related to the GPU VRAM. I know a 3070 is a powerful card but being a 8gb card makes it really useless with titlessuch as these and you have no other way but to sacrifice visual fidelity. This game is very VRAM demanding and 8gb for all "high" is not enough unfortunately. Even if myself here with another 8gb card I always use 7.2gb when the game wants to allocate more for what comes next it'll stutter like hell.

yeah i know the VRAM amount of this card is a problem, that's why it may be my last nvidia card
the problem here it's the problem is still here even with low settings

[FFox]

Im sorry to hear that, I've had issues the same as you and I ended up reformatting my PC, but the strong fps drops and sutters I think they were fixed after a few patches, other wise well I dont suggest messing around with system stuff but there are certain "tweaks" you can do, but these are advanced stuff which can break your OS install, In my case I've done them anyway because I dont mind it, and I think I got an improvement but Im not sure in your case, becasue it worked out for me doesnt mean it might work on your side

[Merfyn]

i can mess with my OS install without any issue, but since the problem is only on this game for now, and i don't want to f*cked up my dualboot install, i won't take the risk here.
i will change the settings back to auto when i'll finish this game.

and if this problem came back on another title, i will put this solution in my troublesooting routine until i'll have a graphics card with enough VRAM for my usage
it will do the trick for now

EDIT : i'll set your answer as the answer for my problem, cause if the auto windows paging hasn't failed me it will be a pretty good solution for very similar problem

[longjohn119]

Originally posted by FFox:

Leave your windows paging file fully automatic managed by the system itself. It is smart on how it does it.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3205816956

I've wrote this little guide and the same guy who commented above said the same I wrote in the guide, this is an old tip sort of the myth to disable defrag on SSDs, (because windows doesnt really defrag them as it is said everywhere) There are many functions windows doesn't do anymore and there is this belief of messing around with the system features and services. I remember I was going crazy with RE8 and Hogwarts Legacy crashing ALL the time or dropping FPS to 15 with system specs over the recommended, and it was a bad manual paging file config. Set it to auto, never had an issue again.

Yup it doesn't defrag a SSD it runs TRIM instead . If your C: drive is a SSD or NVMe then it runs TRIM once a week in the background.