Waiting for shader compilation

[Guano Ape]

I have strange problem. My machine is well above recommended specs for this game and it was running smoothly without any problems. And today all of a sudden when i was trying to load the save the game was stuck on waiting for shader compilation. Anyone else with similar problem that found solution? Thx in advance for potentially problem solving answers.

[RodroG]

Full system specs? In-game settings? CPU SKU model?

[Guano Ape]

Originally posted by RodroG:

Full system specs? In-game settings? CPU SKU model?

My system specs are

INTEL Core i9-14900KF do 6.00GHz Box
ASROCK B760M-HDV/M.2
Memory: DIMM DDR5 32GB 4800MT/s KVR48U40BD8-32
Graphic card Zotac GAMING GeForce RTX 4070 TI Trinity 12GB DDR6
Be Quiet System Power 10 750W Bronze BN329
Cooler: LC Power Cosmo Cool LC-CC-120

My in game settings are

Graphics


Texture Quality Very High
Texture Filtering 16x Anisotropic
Shadow Quality Very High
Screen Space Shadows On
Ambient Occlusion SSAO
Screen Space Reflections High
Level of Detail Very High
Cinematic Facial Detail Quality
Hair Quality High
Crowd Quality High
Terrain Quality Very High
Water Quality High
Clouds Quality Very High
Translucency Quality High Res
Parallax Occlusion Mapping On
Field of View +0%
Depth of Field Very High
Bloom On
Motion Blur Strength 10
Sharpness 5
Lens Flares On
Vignette On
Radial Blur On
Chromatic Aberration On


Display



Window Mode Exclusive Fullscreen
Display Resolution 1920x1080
Aspect Ratio Auto
Cinematics Letterboxing On
Refresh Rate 144 Hz
VSync Off
Nvidia Reflex Low Latency On
Dynamic Range Off
Color Blind Mode Off
Dynamic Resolution Scaling Off
Anti-Aliasing DLAA
Upscale Method Off

[FFox]

Sometimes my shaders rebuild themselves out of nowhere on initial game launch, if I force the game to quit with task manager and re-launch there is a chance it wont happen again and it loads the previously compiled shaders.... 95% of the times the game will load normally in 6 to 8 seconds on the cheapest of SATA SSDs.. Seems it is totally random. However they will ALWAYS rebuild at least once when you update your GPU drivers.

Dunno if it helps or not but I've done it myself, which is updating Direct Storage to version 1.2.3. seems it is more stable in general when its about the game and how it access to its files as you play in the open world

https://www.nuget.org/packages/Microsoft.Direct3D.DirectStorage/1.2.3

download package 2.68mb (change the file extension to .rar) copypaste both .dll they are located in native/bin/x64, dstorage.dll and dstoragecore.dll and replace them in your HFW install folder

[RodroG]

Thanks for sharing. Which display driver version are you using? I'd suggest clearing your DX12 driver shader cache files and trying again. Disable any manual or custom CPU overclock too. Are you using Intel's recommended power and current settings in your UEFI/BIOS? Getting stuck/game crashing to the desktop during the shader compilation process can signal CPU hardware instability. Are you aware of the following?

• https://community.intel.com/t5/Processors/Microcode-0x129-Update-for-Intel-Core-13th-and-14th-Gen-Desktop/m-p/1622129
  
• https://community.intel.com/t5/Processors/June-2024-Guidance-regarding-Intel-Core-13th-and-14th-Gen-K-KF/m-p/1607807
  
• https://community.intel.com/t5/Processors/Additional-Warranty-Updates-on-Intel-Core-13th-14th-Gen-Desktop/m-p/1620853

[Guano Ape]

My display driver version is 560.81 (i tried reinstalling it but nothing changed). Thx a lot to both of you. I tried force quit, updating Direct Storage, clearing DX12 cache, i checked Intel settings in BIOS they are ok. It never happened before just all off a sudden infinite shader compilation (well maybe not infinite the longest i waited was 15 minute) i even tried to load earlier saves nothing works. Well i guess i will either quit completely or start from beginning (which is less likely after so many hours invested and almost near the end i guess). As i said everything worked perfectly fine until just out of nowhere BAM.

[RodroG]

Originally posted by Guano Ape:

My display driver version is 560.81 (i tried reinstalling it but nothing changed). Thx a lot to both of you. I tried force quit, updating Direct Storage, clearing DX12 cache, i checked Intel settings in BIOS they are ok. It never happened before just all off a sudden infinite shader compilation (well maybe not infinite the longest i waited was 15 minute) i even tried to load earlier saves nothing works. Well i guess i will either quit completely or start from beginning (which is less likely after so many hours invested and almost near the end i guess). As i said everything worked perfectly fine until just out of nowhere BAM.

You're welcome. I'm sorry to hear that. I hope it gets sorted out. If I had to start a playthrough of this game from scratch, I probably would never do it. In the meantime, check if you start experiencing similar issues or crashes in other games, as in that case, you may want to consider a CPU instability or chip degradation issue due to the known Intel Core 13th/14th Gen fiasco.

[Oxotnik]

I have same. Just kill process and start game again

[emitfudd]

Are you getting a screen that says compiling shaders with a status bar like most games? I have not seen one yet in my entire playthrough? I do get specific areas of the map that get abnormally hot CPU temps and I am suspicious that maybe that is when shaders are compiling? I'm on a 4090 with 24GB if that matters.

[FFox]

If you have not seen a single one in your entire playtrough as you say...you are playing a different game really. Shaders had to be built at least once, they are directly tied to your CPU and storage unit/type. Of course the GPU renders them later but that has nothing to do with the process

[emitfudd]

Originally posted by FFox:

If you have not seen a single one in your entire playtrough as you say...you are playing a different game really. Shaders had to be built at least once, they are directly tied to your CPU and storage unit/type. Of course the GPU renders them later but that has nothing to do with the process

I haven't seen any indication of it. Like I said, are you guys getting a screen with a progress bar showing shader compilation?

5900X with 4090 and 980 Pro SSD.

[RodroG]

Originally posted by emitfudd:

I haven't seen any indication of it. Like I said, are you guys getting a screen with a progress bar showing shader compilation?

5900X with 4090 and 980 Pro SSD.

The shader compilation process in this game always occurs when you load your game for the first time, after updating the GPU driver, and if you clear the driver API shader cache. There is also some minor/marginal shader compilation/checks during in-game loads and on the fly during gameplay.

There is no big screen indicating the process, most shaders are compiled once during the game loading process and loads during gameplay, not when the game is launched or when you reach the main menu on first boot.

[Guano Ape]

I found solution if it can be caled like that. Last 3 autosaves that i tried to load were stuck on loading but when i tried my last manual save game loaded as usual in like 10 seconds. I lost maybe like 1 hour of gameplay from last manual save but hey il take it. So always do your manual saves as much as you can. 😁

[FFox]

Figures.... You might be right. I personally delete auto saves before loading while still in the menu and load my Last manual save huh so that could be why

[mdair]

Originally posted by Guano Ape:

I have strange problem. My machine is well above recommended specs for this game and it was running smoothly without any problems. And today all of a sudden when i was trying to load the save the game was stuck on waiting for shader compilation. Anyone else with similar problem that found solution? Thx in advance for potentially problem solving answers.

Did you update your Motherboard bios with the new micro code update and set the motherboard to the Intel recommended power profile?

If you have not that is the first thing I would do.

The problem you are describing is the CPU degradation problem that 13th and 14th gen intel CPUs have been having for almost a year now.

If you have updated the motherboard bios, set the approved Intel power profile and updated the CPU microcode and it still crashes on things like shader comp your CPU has permanent damage and you need to open a ticket with Intel customer support so they can replace the CPU.

[Cap'n Crud]

Originally posted by mdair:

Originally posted by Guano Ape:

I have strange problem. My machine is well above recommended specs for this game and it was running smoothly without any problems. And today all of a sudden when i was trying to load the save the game was stuck on waiting for shader compilation. Anyone else with similar problem that found solution? Thx in advance for potentially problem solving answers.

Did you update your Motherboard bios with the new micro code update and set the motherboard to the Intel recommended power profile?

If you have not that is the first thing I would do.

The problem you are describing is the CPU degradation problem that 13th and 14th gen intel CPUs have been having for almost a year now.

If you have updated the motherboard bios, set the approved Intel power profile and updated the CPU microcode and it still crashes on things like shader comp your CPU has permanent damage and you need to open a ticket with Intel customer support so they can replace the CPU.

Oof damn I hope it's not this. On a more hopeful note I'd like to add that every time you install a new driver it recompiles shaders and sometimes it seems like it's stuck but it just takes a while. And a couple times on my pc it seemed to legit get stuck on that so I just alt tabbed and closed it out and started it again and it worked. So if you recently freshly installed a new driver it might be that. Hope it's not the intel issue though. If you're not aware of it you should definitely look it up. It's big news in the pc gaming world right now.