Horizon Forbidden West™ Complete Edition

Horizon Forbidden West™ Complete Edition

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Kaidalen May 14, 2024 @ 12:59am
This game has HORRID performance
I just finished the "tutorial" area and I am getting like 15 fps no matter what i do my performance just tanks to nothing. How to fix
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Raider Deci May 14, 2024 @ 7:34pm 
I7 8700
Rtx 2070super
32gb
Win 10

Performance is exactly what I expected. Old but some tweaks fixes it. Solid +60 fps through the whole games, 70-90 something but I play with vsync on cuz old monitor. Settings mostly maxed out on a 1080p-res except shadows to medium & terrain texture to high, maxing those puts it over the 2070s capacity

1-2 crashes
Last edited by Raider Deci; May 14, 2024 @ 7:36pm
PlayaCharacter May 14, 2024 @ 8:44pm 
A few things to try:

1. Update your drivers. Nvidia published updated drivers specifically for HFW not long after the game's release and I actually played through the entire campaign before I realized I needed to install them. The new drivers made an average 15fps difference on my system and eliminated a lot of stuttering and hiccups.

2. Turn a few settings down to medium, most importantly texture quality and level of detail. Level of detail in this game actually controls the distance at which objects are rendered in full fidelity, and you'll barely notice the difference visually if you turn it down to medium. Texture quality is much more noticeable when going from ultra or high down to medium, but if you've got 8GB of VRAM or less you're going to get back a lot of frames in exchange.

3. Turn on ReBAR (Resizable Base Address Register) in your BIOS if your GPU supports it (RTX 30xx series and above). Without going into too much detail, it basically makes your GPU talk to the rest of your rig much more efficiently. You'll get a huge boost from it, both in this game and in many others.

4. Try the various upscaling methods (DLSS, FSR, and XeSS) to see if any of them help. DLSS yields a pretty significant performance increase on my system but your mileage may vary, the native implementation has some kinks that still need working out.

5. Turn off motion blur and depth of field. They're eating up frames for the sake of a reduction in image clarity of dubious aesthetic value. Unless you just really like the way they look, in which case you should probably see an optometrist, you don't need them.

6. Use Exclusive Fullscreen instead of Borderless, or at least experiment with both to see which one runs best on your rig. I've seen a couple of people insist that there is no such thing as Exclusive Fullscreen mode in this game, but whatever the case, the setting for it nets me about 5fps on average.

7. Look on YouTube for optimization guides from people with your hardware. Other people have already sorted out which settings have the greatest impact on performance, so there's no need to reinvent the wheel.

This game ran like garbage on my system when I first installed it, after a few updates and a few hours worth of careful tweaking, I'm enjoying consistent high frame rates without any significant loss of visual quality (except for Burning Shores, which still runs like molasses for me). I'm confident I'll get that sorted soon enough too. The only way to eat a whale is one bite at a time.
Thornok May 14, 2024 @ 11:06pm 
dynamic camera is broken
Fr3nzyFurb4ll May 15, 2024 @ 4:33am 
Originally posted by Zephyr:
Originally posted by Fr3nzyFurb4ll:
Oh well, sorry for having a trash system. Why is it, that every other game runs buttery smooth on my system???
Your problem description is very weird stuff. Relatively high GPU usage (90%) at 720 P for a RTX 3080 seems impossible, except if it downclocked itself hard. Hm, crazy thought: Are you sure that the game is actually using the dedicated GPU and not the integrated GPU instead? I think the 10850K has one right?

I have this wild idea because at 720P you should be CPU limited with your hardware and still your CPU is not doing anything it seems. The game itself is not really CPU intensive, at least the base game is not.

If the problem is not the integrated GPU then it will be much more difficult. Could you provide overlay data from your hardware, please? With MSI afterburner or Intel present mon perhaps, so that we can see screenshots with power draw, temperatures readouts for GPU/CPU and frametimes/FPS? This would greatly help to give meaningful advise.

As the poster above said: That there are only problems in one specific game does not mean that there is a problem with this game and not your system. It could rather be that there is a problem that only leads to issues in one specific game :).

I would mostly define game performance issues as "interaction problems" between hardware and software and to find a solution it is never good to only blame the software without actually checking the hardware (and system), especially if most software users do not have issues on their hardware/system (software issues are a thing as well, of course).

It is definitely running on the 3080, I can see the utilization in Libre HW Monitor.
Which is the best Software to capture the important info?
I upgraded yesterday to the latest 552.44 Driver from Nvidia.
I even re-enabled resizable bar, which boostet the performance by 5 fps, but the Menu and intro vid FPS drop to 11 FPS instead of the 53FPS I get normally.
GHosT May 15, 2024 @ 8:43am 
What is you resolution?
Games uses more than 12GB @1440p, so maybe you have VRAM issue with your 3080.

Game runs mighty fine for me:
5600x,
RX 7900 XT
RAM 32GB 36000 CL16
120+ FPS @ native 1440p with everything maxed out

Locked the frames at 95 FPS with radeon chill and it simply does not drop.
Last edited by GHosT; May 15, 2024 @ 8:45am
Zephyr May 15, 2024 @ 9:39am 
Originally posted by Fr3nzyFurb4ll:
Originally posted by Zephyr:
Your problem description is very weird stuff. Relatively high GPU usage (90%) at 720 P for a RTX 3080 seems impossible, except if it downclocked itself hard. Hm, crazy thought: Are you sure that the game is actually using the dedicated GPU and not the integrated GPU instead? I think the 10850K has one right?

I have this wild idea because at 720P you should be CPU limited with your hardware and still your CPU is not doing anything it seems. The game itself is not really CPU intensive, at least the base game is not.

If the problem is not the integrated GPU then it will be much more difficult. Could you provide overlay data from your hardware, please? With MSI afterburner or Intel present mon perhaps, so that we can see screenshots with power draw, temperatures readouts for GPU/CPU and frametimes/FPS? This would greatly help to give meaningful advise.

As the poster above said: That there are only problems in one specific game does not mean that there is a problem with this game and not your system. It could rather be that there is a problem that only leads to issues in one specific game :).

I would mostly define game performance issues as "interaction problems" between hardware and software and to find a solution it is never good to only blame the software without actually checking the hardware (and system), especially if most software users do not have issues on their hardware/system (software issues are a thing as well, of course).

It is definitely running on the 3080, I can see the utilization in Libre HW Monitor.
Which is the best Software to capture the important info?
I upgraded yesterday to the latest 552.44 Driver from Nvidia.
I even re-enabled resizable bar, which boostet the performance by 5 fps, but the Menu and intro vid FPS drop to 11 FPS instead of the 53FPS I get normally.
Hm, ok then something is really, really fishy.

A good enough software is MSI afterburner, which honestly every Nvidia user should have :). I still have it from my Nvidia GPU days. A better software perhaps, but not so easy to use is present mon. It is still beta more or less, but offers more accurate Info than Afterburner. For starters afterburner is totally ok, though. Your problem is so weird it should be immediately visible.

From my system with Ryzen 5800 X3d and RX 7900 XT, 32 GB RAM.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3209003380

This is 4K highest settings, native. Top line is GPU with temperature, frequenzy, power draw, voltage and hot spot temperature to the far right. CPU is in the middle with power draw and frequency+temperature.
stardust May 15, 2024 @ 11:50am 
Originally posted by Fr3nzyFurb4ll:
Before all trolls write theire comments like, it's your machine it works fine on my ultra high end trillion dollar machine ...

I've an 10850K with an RTX3080 12GB and 32 GB of RAM. Even on very low settings with a stupid resolution of 720p, I have an GPU utilization above 90% and Framerates around 30FPS. In settlements it's even lower!!! My CPU is sitting there and doing nothing.

This problem exists since launch. I don't know why everyone is so hyped about how good this port is.

You could try to use DDU from guru3d to remove your driver and reinstall it, reinstall windows, disable resizable bar, and so on ... but in my case, nothing worked.

DLSS, FSR, XESS and everything doesn't bring any performance gains, just make the game look worse. I experienced this even on my SteamDeck, where the game runs way better than on my 10850K.

The only thing that is an open task for me is to try the game under Linux.



LMAO something is literally wronmg with your system. I'm playing at 3440x1440 with DLAA all maxed out and get over 200fps on my 10900K + 4090 easy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPyAcQr7MrY&t=215s
Resalius... May 15, 2024 @ 1:04pm 
I7 14700K + 4090 + 32GB RAM / 4k OLED 120Hz GSync
0 Problems, over 90 Hours with 125FPS CAP. FPS are Between 120-125 FPS perm.

Few weeks ago:
I7-8086K OC-5GHz + 3080 TI + 16GB RAM = Less FPS but 0 Problems. (4k OLED 120Hz GSync)

If Cyberpunk runs (old System) at 40-60 FPS @ High/Max/Ultra-mix, Horizon FW should run fine @ 3080+ Cards.
Last edited by Resalius...; May 15, 2024 @ 1:07pm
Thornok May 15, 2024 @ 1:33pm 
actually i have great performance, also on my older system.

it just depends on your settings.


lower resolution might be good for the cpu
lower settings in general might be better for the gpu
Zephyr May 15, 2024 @ 2:52pm 
Originally posted by Fr3nzyFurb4ll:
So I took some screenshots at 1440p (nativ resolution) and highest settings:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3247317424
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3247317240

and some at 720p on very low settings:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3247317371
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3247317301

@Zephyr hope you can read something out of them 🤞
Looks genuinely weird AF :). Thanks for sharing. It is clear that there are severe issues. Neither your GPU nor your CPU handle the game as they should. Your CPU usage seems astronomically high, the CPU draws almost maximum power all the time and the GPU does not draw power as expected (should be 320-350W in this game with uncapped FPS) on the other hand. Even the frequency seems off. In the second 1440P shot there is 2205 mhz for the GPU. That is higher than a RTX 3080 should clock as far as I know. What exactly are all the % in the GPU line?

Additionally (minor for now): Should the CPU not clock above 5 ghz usually? Your temps look very fine. Are you doing OC or undervolting? Also minor: Is the game installed on a SSD?

Essentially it all looks like a sort of CPU bottleneck (which should not be the case) or the GPU is waiting for something that does not happen. Did the shader building complete fine? Rebuild shaders perhaps, check file integrity of the game and make a CLEAN install of the GPU driver with DDU. I honestly have never seen something this broken with your kind of hardware :). If nothing else helps a clean OS install might do it.

I am sorry, but I MUST ask: You really do not have such issues with ANY other game? it just looks so weird. Btw. the probable CPU issue is why resolution changes or DLSS and such do not help I think. Your CPU is just ALWAYS making issues.
Last edited by Zephyr; May 15, 2024 @ 3:06pm
Stormy (ivan) May 15, 2024 @ 7:53pm 
There is something wrong with my laptop as well. Razer Pro 17, i7 10th gen, rtx 2080 Super max Q, and I play it at medium, DLSS on performance, 30fps. If I crank DLSS all the way and put all settings to very low, I still can't crack 45 fps.

In April, when NVidia updated my drivers to v552.22, I had one morning where I was getting a solid 60fps on medium/high mix. Then later that day Forbidden west updated and I was back to the low to mid 30s on Medium, DLSS performance.

I could run the original Zero Dawn on high 60-90fps on this same laptop.
Ensaru May 15, 2024 @ 10:07pm 
Nixxes games tend to have the odd performance issues which are usually very specific but also has absolutely nothing to do with your setup unlike the comments here are suggesting.

It's the way the game is programmed. There are some strange things occurring with CPU utilization and VRAM utilization. Sometimes when you change a setting or simply move to another area in the game, the game refuses to utilise your CPU. Mind you, you can still mitigate most of these problems by changing the settings and restarting the game in a particular order.

Because some comments here are more concerned getting offended for a developer, here are some tips:

- Post your PC Specs whenever you need help with troubleshooting.

-The best thing you can do is first use the default medium or low settings. I don't know why this works but using the default settings just makes things work somehow

- DO NOT quit out of Shader compilation. Let it fully compile before you jump in.

- If your graphics card has 8gb of VRAM, setting Texture Quality to Medium and Resolution to 1080p. You can try High but it's a gamble.

- ALWAYS restart your game if you make any graphics settings changes. The game has trouble clearing VRAM (video memory). If you don't want to keep doing this, don't touch the settings when you're playing.

- Avoid upscaling, but if you must use one, in order of quality and performance: TAA> FSR/DLSS >>>>XESS

- Avoid Dynamic Resolution Scaling. It sucks in this game and is sometimes broken. Because it also frequently updates your settings, you may end up with a memory leak issue. Keep it off.

- If cutscenes are slowing down but not egregiously, and that's the only time the game slows, then don't bother trying to fix it. This has something to do with the lighting in the game.

And finally, always make sure you update your drivers and game. The drivers sometimes comes with fixes and Nixxes is working on getting these issues resolved the best they can.
Zephyr May 15, 2024 @ 11:21pm 
Originally posted by Ensaru:
Nixxes games tend to have the odd performance issues which are usually very specific but also has absolutely nothing to do with your setup unlike the comments here are suggesting.

It's the way the game is programmed. There are some strange things occurring with CPU utilization and VRAM utilization. Sometimes when you change a setting or simply move to another area in the game, the game refuses to utilise your CPU. Mind you, you can still mitigate most of these problems by changing the settings and restarting the game in a particular order.
How is such a reasoning reasonable? The issue is at the same time very specific but has nothing to do with the specific user setup? Instead it is the game? Really?

When the vast majority of users does not have issues but in a few specific cases there are weird things then it is ALWAYS about the user setup one way or the other. In such cases there simply must be a special "problem" in the user setup, be it OS, hardware or driver related. Something is either missing or the setup in itself is for some reason so "special" that the game cannot properly "talk" to the hardware (or the other way around).

Logic demands that such cases are caused by the user system falling outside of the majority distribution due to errors, missing things or wrong setups/drivers. What can be seen above in the screenshots does not look at all how such things should look like and saying "this is just the way the game is programmed" is really not explaining it. The shots above also show a VERY high CPU utilization and a very LOW GPU utilization :).
Last edited by Zephyr; May 15, 2024 @ 11:23pm
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