Crafting system sucks

[Bobs]

Even with Easy Loot turned on (this should be default) it is ridiculously tedious to get the correct items to upgrade or even buy high end gear. Why do you need 3 legendary items just to upgrade a purple bow to its second tier?

Without doubt the most grind in a crafting system ever witnessed in a single player game. Most MMO's are easier to grind.

[The Illusion]

No, this is not the most grind. But it is close

[The Tempted Man]

Legendaries are them ost grind, but it takes like 20 minutes per armor.

[Thornok]

just did no care that much

the only thing that made a difference was armor

like each of them has one extreme weakness (very original)

so i used to swap depening on the situation


poison is way overpowered,

also the demolition spear ...

[maul]

It unfortunately requires some meta knowledge to be less of a grind, as you'll generally know what parts are needed for upgrades to strip them during casual encounters. Besides apex hearts, etc. I'll often have a decent amount of the materials on hand from previous fights. Legendaries are absolutely a pain though.

[Evilsod]

Publicado originalmente por Bobs:

Even with Easy Loot turned on (this should be default) it is ridiculously tedious to get the correct items to upgrade or even buy high end gear. Why do you need 3 legendary items just to upgrade a purple bow to its second tier?

Without doubt the most grind in a crafting system ever witnessed in a single player game. Most MMO's are easier to grind.

How to tell me you don't understand the crafting system, without telling me.

If you did, you'd understand that the rarest items in the game are Circulators/Primary Nerves, which are Green/Blue tier (at least, when not using Easy Loot). Those things are infuriating when you can kill 5 Apex Slaughterspines and not get a single Circulator.

All legendary items require you to strip that specific component off a machine. They are absolutely trivial to obtain. Hell, you don't even have to bother finishing the kill!
Even Apex hearts are pretty trivial, since most of the ones you need are guaranteed drops.

[Bear^]

Might be heavily biased here but, I don't find this crafting system to be too grindy at all. But then again, I'm probably too used to heavy grinding due to my many hours in Runescape 3 as an Ironman.

Just make a job, learn which parts to shoot off and it's not that difficult. You'll more often than not have many spots with the machines you need, and with flying / quick travel, it's easy to travel between them.

[Aramor]

I played the entire game at very hard difficulty setting, but at some point I started switching to "story mode" whenever I need to grind for upgrades. Problem solved.

[GoldenOuroboros]

Did feel a lot easier in HZD to do things especially after unlocking the skill that allowed you to obtain higher grade components while scrapping machines. HFW has a valor skill that you have to activate which increases the chance but that's about it; would have preferred a passive boost similar to HZD.

[Svlyn]

I would have to agree, I am still on my first play through and grinding my gear up. To be honest it is getting painful. But i am one of those people who has to have all the gear. This is an issue in this game. After my time played I would suggest to new players that they pick one play style and few pieces of gear and grind only that style of gear up. Then do a new game plus and pick another spec and so on and so on. I think the Devs had this in mind when they designed the game. With that said they should have have many different endings to go along with the variety of gear and play style opens.

[Sinophile]

Publicado originalmente por Bear^:

Might be heavily biased here but, I don't find this crafting system to be too grindy at all. But then again, I'm probably too used to heavy grinding due to my many hours in Runescape 3 as an Ironman.

Just make a job, learn which parts to shoot off and it's not that difficult. You'll more often than not have many spots with the machines you need, and with flying / quick travel, it's easy to travel between them.

Never played runescape, but to me it's a different kind of grind. Most items I can simply create a "job", then click on the map. What I hate is when I spend 20 minutes wearing down a shellsnapper, then somehow get onehit from a random rollerback.

Even then, I prefer hunting down shellsnapper bolts to looking for which ledge to jump to on a story mission.

[TheAspieFox]

TBH, you basically get most/all of the needed materials you need in a single playthrough to get all of your Very Rare/Legendary weapons and armor to at least Lv3 (if not Lv5 for ones you use most often). And if you need more resources for whatever, and you're not on Ultra Hard, you can knock the difficulty down to Story Mode and farm for all of 5-10 minutes. Lol.

This "grind" is nothing compared to MMOs. Lmao. If you want an example of actual grind in singleplayer, look at the Borderlands franchise and several of the LEGO games (in general).

[Alezul]

I wouldn't have minded the grind if i didn't have to do it for the same type of item so many times.

Like i spend a ton of time upgrading my hunter bow to the max, then i play a bit more, reach a new town and look at that, a slightly better hunter bow. Now i gotta start the grind all over again and i have no idea how long until i find a better bow.

[Bear^]

Publicado originalmente por Sinophile:

Publicado originalmente por Bear^:

Might be heavily biased here but, I don't find this crafting system to be too grindy at all. But then again, I'm probably too used to heavy grinding due to my many hours in Runescape 3 as an Ironman.

Just make a job, learn which parts to shoot off and it's not that difficult. You'll more often than not have many spots with the machines you need, and with flying / quick travel, it's easy to travel between them.

Never played runescape, but to me it's a different kind of grind. Most items I can simply create a "job", then click on the map. What I hate is when I spend 20 minutes wearing down a shellsnapper, then somehow get onehit from a random rollerback.

Even then, I prefer hunting down shellsnapper bolts to looking for which ledge to jump to on a story mission.

Well this is where learning the various machines, what ammo to use and what parts to pry off, really comes into play. I used to struggle with a shellsnapper until I learned a bit about the machine.

There's a grind to learn the machines, but once they are learned they become significantly easy to take down for the parts.

[joridiculous]

Publicado originalmente por Alezul:

I wouldn't have minded the grind if i didn't have to do it for the same type of item so many times.

Like i spend a ton of time upgrading my hunter bow to the max, then i play a bit more, reach a new town and look at that, a slightly better hunter bow. Now i gotta start the grind all over again and i have no idea how long until i find a better bow.

that right there is the problem with the whole upgrade system.
When you find / buy a better version of weapon you have upgraded you should be able to dismantle the upgrades so you can use them on the new one. The stupidity of having to run around the map,to find the same damned parts *again* is for no other reason than to make the game look longer than it is.
HZD did the "upgrade system" much better.

[Napalm®]

The basic game gear upgrades are insanely overpriced, for no other reason (that I can think of) than to bloat the playtime in a worst way possible.
It's even more interesting that they completely reversed that with the DLC legendary equipment that is 10x easier to upgrade.