High CPU temps in game. Help.

[Yumi]

I have the recommended GPU for this game, I've been playing for about 10 hours and I am unable to play above medium settings without having my CPU temps run between 75-85 degrees. I am not using 4k, because I am completely unable to, even with the lowest settings. Now, this is in the beginner area. If I go into any cutscenes, dessert area or those "bunkers" where you fight machines, my CPU will throttle as it will reach above 95 degrees frequently. When this happened, i tried to lower my setting to "very low" just to see if it would make any difference but it did not.

I have been reading about some people having similar issues, but it's always noted that it's in specific areas or around water, otherwise their CPU temps will stay at 60-80 99% of the time. Some even using high graphics or 4k with my graphic card. So that makes me wonder if this is really a game issue or if something may be wrong with my specs? But I doubt, as i shouldn't be bottlenecked and im above the recommended specs.

The thing I don't understand either is that my CPU will always stay low at 5-30% even with these temps. My GPU will always be at 100% but temp 60.

Like this I am simply unable to play the game in most areas, even on lowest settings.

I've recently cleaned my pc and changed thermal paste too, so I don't know what may be causing this issue. Is anyone having the same problems?

My specs:
Nvidia RTX 3070
Core(TM) i7-11700F @ 2.50GHz, 2496 Mhz

[Avallac]

Originally posted by TH3 SU!C!D4L R4BB!T:

Originally posted by Avallac:

Games cannot "overheat your system" the only way for your cpu to overheat is to have a cooler with insufficient wattage rating or have it improperly installed aka thermal paste not applied properly or its not flush with the cpu lid.

1000w PSU, it is a bit to much for the build, but every game (even cyberpunk, or any high demand one) does not shut my system down after a few hours of play. Mostly I can play for hours

What does your power supply have to do with anything??? You know coolers have a wattage rating that should match or be higher than max watts of your cpu right?
It also doesn't matter what happens in cyberpunk, or any game. If that game doesn't use your cpu much or you reach a video card bottleneck much sooner and cpu has nothing to do of course it won't overheat, its not being used! You cpu should NEVER ever be capable of overheating at max load, if it does, something is horribly wrong with your cooling.

[Bandit]

Do you have v-sync turned on? It takes a lot of stress off the CPU and video card with it turned on.

[TSS | ChrisBtw]

My game is running BEAUTIFULLY, sometimes at 150fps consistent BUT my CPU is hitting 90C and it's worrying lol

[Majestic]

Originally posted by Thornok:

could be your cpu cooler.

paste should be replaced after ~ 1 - 2 years .

try lower settings

Honestly, people need to get on the KryoSheet train. Apply one, never replace. So much better than paste.

Originally posted by TSS | ChrisBtw:

My game is running BEAUTIFULLY, sometimes at 150fps consistent BUT my CPU is hitting 90C and it's worrying lol

Try a framelimiter perhaps, there is one ingame..

[Silverhaze]

Have the same problem on the Deluge mission with the crane where you need to save people. I changed my AIO from a 280mm to a 420mm for my i7 13700k, and i thought i mounted it wrong at first.

This mission takes my cpu to high 80c+ when it should be around high 50c.
The load on the cpu is 20% at that moment but it still hits high temps.
Once the mission was over and i left the area it returned to normal.
Between 50/60c

My RTX 4080 stayes cool around 62c.

I play on a 240hz 4k QD-Oled and i see frames around 170fps most of the times.
Only this game does that to my cpu.

[MancSoulja]

Originally posted by Silverhaze:

Have the same problem on the Deluge mission with the crane where you need to save people. I changed my AIO from a 280mm to a 420mm for my i7 13700k, and i thought i mounted it wrong at first.

This mission takes my cpu to high 80c+ when it should be around high 50c.
The load on the cpu is 20% at that moment but it still hits high temps.
Once the mission was over and i left the area it returned to normal.
Between 50/60c

My RTX 4080 stayes cool around 62c.

I play on a 240hz 4k QD-Oled and i see frames around 170fps most of the times.
Only this game does that to my cpu.

You're not getting 170FPS at 4K with a 4080, not even on low.

[Majestic]

Originally posted by MancSoulja:

You're not getting 170FPS at 4K with a 4080, not even on low.

With DLSS and FG he probably can, thats not really what struck out to me. Rather, the notion that "it should be 50" when somehow regardless of the load the CPU should be 50 is a bit ludicrous considering the power density and lack of efficiency on those new intel chips. If he shows a prime95 with AVX run of atleast 30minutes with his CPU staying 50 degrees, ill believe it. But somehow i doubt it, lol.

Forbidden West uses AVX instruction sets to cope with the vast amount of geometric complexity. AVX instructions are harsh on CPU temps.

Honestly, I have to explain so much on this forum, basic and advanced knowledge of how computer systems work, I feel Sylens' pain. People should really not be so adament and absolute about their statements and accusations towards the game. When basic understanding could explain away 95% of it, without the poo flinging. Sucks to be a PC porting dev, Nixxes is doing a great job but all these cretins throwing poop has to be grating.

[Silverhaze]

Originally posted by Majestic:

Originally posted by MancSoulja:

You're not getting 170FPS at 4K with a 4080, not even on low.

With DLSS and FG he probably can, thats not really what struck out to me. Rather, the notion that "it should be 50" when somehow regardless of the load the CPU should be 50 is a bit ludicrous considering the power density and lack of efficiency on those new intel chips. If he shows a prime95 with AVX run of atleast 30minutes with his CPU staying 50 degrees, ill believe it. But somehow i doubt it, lol.

Forbidden West uses AVX instruction sets to cope with the vast amount of geometric complexity. AVX instructions are harsh on CPU temps.

Honestly, I have to explain so much on this forum, basic and advanced knowledge of how computer systems work, I feel Sylens' pain. People should really not be so adament and absolute about their statements and accusations towards the game. When basic understanding could explain away 95% of it, without the poo flinging. Sucks to be a PC porting dev, Nixxes is doing a great job but all these cretins throwing poop has to be grating.

You can explain as much as you want on here, the fact is Horizon gives me 90% of the time temps between 50/60c with a 420mm AOI. On the Deluge Mission it spikes to high 80/90c so something is goin on that part of the game. There is a Reddit post on this matter and all on that same mission.

https://www.reddit.com/r/HorizonForbiddenWest/comments/1boogxx/cpu_temps/

So again, you can preach all you want on "Basic and advanced knowledge" it is for sure the game's fault on some parts that the cpu starts to sweat like this.
Why does it spike that hard on that mission? What's so different from the rest when it stays 50/60c.

I love Nixxes, they are doing an amazing job, but something is not right.
Why is the load on my CPU only 20% and i'm seeing 80/90c ?
If the load was 90% and i see these temps than i can explain it, but not on such a small load of 20%.

Sure on Prime95 the temps will rise like crazy, that's because the load on my cores are maxing out. If prime was stressing my cpu on 20% load i was seeing 50c temps not 90c.
There is something wrong with the game.

[AshHinton]

Originally posted by Helifax:

Put some ice on the CPU to cool it off :P

A blast of Chillwater, surely ;-)

[Majestic]

Originally posted by Silverhaze:

You can explain as much as you want on here, the fact is Horizon gives me 90% of the time temps between 50/60c with a 420mm AOI. On the Deluge Mission it spikes to high 80/90c so something is goin on that part of the game. There is a Reddit post on this matter and all on that same mission.

You can put a car radiator on there, you still have the chip power density to overcome. All the performance lies in the contact of the DIE towards the coldplate. Which is why for Intel, Der8auer is making bank on direct-die kits. For AMD you dont need them, because they consume a third of the power.

And dont know what else to tell you, AVX instruction sets cook a CPU, but they're also very efficient and fast. Look it up maybe, before writing another essay-style reponse with subjective drivel and no substance.

"But i have X result here", yes, a non-AVX game. Its irrelevant. Your AIO or Loop size is irrelevant. Its power density and AVX instructions, that combo is causing the temperature.

And the reason one mission is more taxing than the other, relies on how many instructions are piped via AVX. Maybe a lot of geometry in the scene for example.

There is nothing wrong with the game, your CPU is just being stressed in a way you haven't seen before. ANd realize your cooling solution isn't as good as you think it is. Or maybe you didn't yet realize how much Intel chips consume on AVX instructions.

My X3D also runs fairly hot in this game (65-75C), But because its still within spec, and I know why it does that, i dont care. I equate it to how much geometry there is on the screen, and dont find strange that this occurs.

[Silverhaze]

Originally posted by Majestic:

Originally posted by Silverhaze:

You can explain as much as you want on here, the fact is Horizon gives me 90% of the time temps between 50/60c with a 420mm AOI. On the Deluge Mission it spikes to high 80/90c so something is goin on that part of the game. There is a Reddit post on this matter and all on that same mission.

You can put a car radiator on there, you still have the chip power density to overcome. All the performance lies in the contact of the DIE towards the coldplate. Which is why for Intel, Der8auer is making bank on direct-die kits. For AMD you dont need them, because they consume a third of the power.

And dont know what else to tell you, AVX instruction sets cook a CPU, but they're also very efficient and fast. Look it up maybe, before writing another essay-style reponse with subjective drivel and no substance.

"But i have X result here", yes, a non-AVX game. Its irrelevant. Your AIO or Loop size is irrelevant. Its power density and AVX instructions, that combo is causing the temperature.

And the reason one mission is more taxing than the other, relies on how many instructions are piped via AVX. Maybe a lot of geometry in the scene for example.

There is nothing wrong with the game, your CPU is just being stressed in a way you haven't seen before. ANd realize your cooling solution isn't as good as you think it is. Or maybe you didn't yet realize how much Intel chips consume on AVX instructions.

My X3D also runs fairly hot in this game (65-75C), But because its still within spec, and I know why it does that, i dont care. I equate it to how much geometry there is on the screen, and dont find strange that this occurs.

Just because you don't find it strange doesn't mean something is going on there on that particular mission. My cpu can go 100c all day long without an issue it is build to do that if it must.

My cooling on my setup is top notch sir, 420mm AOI in a full tower cooler master Cosmos c700p with 12 fans perfectly setup push/pull this case is a cooling monster.

Like i said, 20% cpu usage 90c there is something wrong in this mission.
Speak to you later when patch day arrives and fixes the problem soon.
Want to bet a steam gift game on it? Have no problems making that pact.

[maul]

Originally posted by Silverhaze:

Originally posted by Majestic:

You can put a car radiator on there, you still have the chip power density to overcome. All the performance lies in the contact of the DIE towards the coldplate. Which is why for Intel, Der8auer is making bank on direct-die kits. For AMD you dont need them, because they consume a third of the power.

And dont know what else to tell you, AVX instruction sets cook a CPU, but they're also very efficient and fast. Look it up maybe, before writing another essay-style reponse with subjective drivel and no substance.

"But i have X result here", yes, a non-AVX game. Its irrelevant. Your AIO or Loop size is irrelevant. Its power density and AVX instructions, that combo is causing the temperature.

And the reason one mission is more taxing than the other, relies on how many instructions are piped via AVX. Maybe a lot of geometry in the scene for example.

There is nothing wrong with the game, your CPU is just being stressed in a way you haven't seen before. ANd realize your cooling solution isn't as good as you think it is. Or maybe you didn't yet realize how much Intel chips consume on AVX instructions.

My X3D also runs fairly hot in this game (65-75C), But because its still within spec, and I know why it does that, i dont care. I equate it to how much geometry there is on the screen, and dont find strange that this occurs.

Just because you don't find it strange doesn't mean something is going on there on that particular mission. My cpu can go 100c all day long without an issue it is build to do that if it must.

My cooling on my setup is top notch sir, 420mm AOI in a full tower cooler master Cosmos c700p with 12 fans perfectly setup push/pull this case is a cooling monster.

Like i said, 20% cpu usage 90c there is something wrong in this mission.
Speak to you later when patch day arrives and fixes the problem soon.
Want to bet a steam gift game on it? Have no problems making that pact.

20% CPU usage across all the cores? What about individual temps for each core? I haven't checked myself but there's likely a few that are running hotter with higher utilization - looking at an overall percentage isn't going to tell you much in a situation like this.

[Silverhaze]

[/quote]

20% CPU usage across all the cores? What about individual temps for each core? I haven't checked myself but there's likely a few that are running hotter with higher utilization - looking at an overall percentage isn't going to tell you much in a situation like this. [/quote]

Will check that with cpu-z/hwinfo after work.

[Majestic]

Originally posted by Silverhaze:

Just because you don't find it strange doesn't mean something is going on there on that particular mission. My cpu can go 100c all day long without an issue it is build to do that if it must.

My cooling on my setup is top notch sir, 420mm AOI in a full tower cooler master Cosmos c700p with 12 fans perfectly setup push/pull this case is a cooling monster.

Like i said, 20% cpu usage 90c there is something wrong in this mission.
Speak to you later when patch day arrives and fixes the problem soon.
Want to bet a steam gift game on it? Have no problems making that pact.

Look, I'm not trying to be difficult, but you really don't seem to understand the fundamentals. And I would be patient explaining, if you weren't so combatative. I specifically note that radiator size and fans are irrelevant in the aspect of power density, and the thermal conductivity/resistivity from the CPU DIE to the COLDPLATE (or in your case DIE->IHS->COLDPLATE), wherein lies the problem for Intel. The heat is generated in the actual silicon, but before your 420mm radiator can use a lot of fans to dissipate, it needs to transfer from the silicon, through the metal lid on top, through the coldplate and into the water. The chip being very small, you only have a very small surface (bottleneck) where all that heat can transfer, and even with Liquid Metal, there is only so much that can escape that small surface (257 mm² only). If you have the sensors, check your water temperature, and see how it doesn't actually get any warmer, despite your CPU temps. You dont list anything you have done to improve that (Direct-die mounting, Liquid Metal usage, etc), rather list how much cooling capacity the radiator has. It just leads me to believe you don't really know what the problem is, why the CPU still gets hot at only seemingly a moderate AVX load, and thus you cannot understand why your 420mm radiator still has your CPU cooking under the LID.

There are no analogies to simplify this. Maybe read a wiki
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermal_conductivity_and_resistivity

Watch some Der8auer video's on Direct-Die methods. Maybe some reviews to see how much freaking heat 13th gen Intel puts out under load, etc.

>Anything< before coming back and well akshuallying someone who is familiar with these fundamentals.

[Silverhaze]

There is definitely something goin on, been playing the same part of that mission where i had crazy high temps yesterday, like lots of people on that mission.
Been monitoring for 20 minutes now and it is not happening right now.
Max temp i'm seeing is 49/52c. On this same part on this screenshot yesterday it was allmost at 90c, as soon you leave this area all is good. The AIO liquid sits around 30c

https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/2483247603790120000/72B31A3B55896363F074F693414F879945B99F44/?imw=5000&imh=5000&ima=fit&impolicy=Letterbox&imcolor=%23000000&letterbox=false

I see lots of topics about a "possible" memory leak.
Will play further to see if a can recreate it.
For now it runs great.