Honest question: For people who find Aloy ugly... why?

[meowlo]

I mean, think about it: Aloy is essentially living in a society of tribalism, lacking all but the most rudimentary understanding of agriculture, architecture, science, mathematics, finance, medicine, basic infrastructure like plumbing or roads, I could go on, but you get my point -- hell, assuming another industrial revolution happens, her society is centuries, maybe even thousands of years behind ours (despite TECHNICALLY behind set in the future, but that's irrelevant).

My point is, Aloy lives in a world where there is literally ZERO incentive for prioritizing her physical appearance in a positive matter. Aloy does not live in 2024, where attractiveness and success are intertwined enough that self-presentation is incredibly important: looking good gets you far in life, and that requires exercise, eating well, a healthy sense of self worth, genuine confidence, investing in well-fitting and tastefully chosen clothes that fit your body type or complexion, getting your haircut regularly by someone who understand your own unique sense of style and hair type, basic self-grooming like beard trimming (for dues), nail trimming, skincare, regular dental care, attending your yearly physicals with your doc, managing your body weight. wheher thru calorie counting, weekly gym visits, running marathons or 5k's, (or a combination of all three). You think Aloy has time for that ♥♥♥♥? She's busy saving the world, FFS.

She's not gonna be hiring a personal trainer, along with a nutritionist, just so she can show off her ass and abs during beach season (because that kind of body building takes more than just working out and eating healthy). Aloy doesn't budget for skinscare, she doesn't make sure to apply sunscreen in the summer, she doesn't spend hours at a hair salon getting new highlights and a fresh haircut, then going go out shopping in SOHO or Champs-Elysee because NYC and Paris don't have regular flights from Denver anymore, so looking for some fresh new designer clothes to drop thousands of shards on, then get them tailored, just in order to fresh out her look for an upcoming formal work industry event -- that's just out of the question.

It honestly makes me wonder: do a lot pf people consider Aloy ugly because they're applying 21st century beauty standards when judging here? Because in HZD, clothing brands don't spend millions of dollars on marketing campaigns convincing consumers to either suffer FOMO or overpay for crap produced in places solely because workers get paid less there, nor does she follow whatever the latest trending overpaid celebrity influencer or fashion designer is wearing at the Oscars, Grammy's, or whatever random LA hills party they happen to be Instagraming at.

Like, damn, look at the world she lives in. Considering she has nice teeth, decent face structure by just about any metric, she's is in good physical shape, has a charming smile, a sassy and no-♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ personality, and to top it off all that she's one of the handful of most capable fighters in existence. Melee, stealth, archery, explosives -- she's got more training and discipline in fighting, enough to make her one of the most accomplished masters of her craft of any human to ever live -- that level of dedication and persistence, discipline, and unshakable attitude is sexy as hell, in my opinion. Even physically, she's got nice legs, she's not overweight, she's not too skinny, and at the risk of sounding like a pervert, the fact that's her upper and lower body are obscenely strong (look at her climbing and running), she's flexible as hell, and her endurance is through the roof. Just sayin'... she probably at least fun as hell in bed!

Anyways, what do y'all think? Is she really "ugly," or have we just been watching too many shows like Game of Thrones where despite the settings everyone looks like a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ supermodel, and that's skewed our perception of what people looked like in other time periods. Personally, that's my theory. Anyways, thanks for attending my ted talk. Just a bit of food for thought if you're bored and want something to ponder.

[𝔗𝔥𝔦𝔫𝔤𝔲𝔰 𝔄𝔠𝔱𝔲𝔞𝔩𝔦𝔰]

TLDR because most male gamers are infantile crybabies who want every single female videogame character to be more "fapable".That's why games like Stellar Blade with garbage semi copypasted story, gameplay and empty characters sell better than games like Horizon where the devs actually want to create a great experience. I've seen wayyyyyyy uglier women than Aloy so I'm totally fine with her face.Actually she's kinda cute & truly beautiful sometimes.And I'm happy that her appearance doesn't distract me from playing the damn game. If Horizon world was real she and most of humns would look like Tarzan and I'm glad Guerrilla didn't go this way. It's a freaking game and it doesn't have to be neither 100% nor a damn teenager's wet dream.Those who want Aloy to be more sexualized should get back to their caves and stick with eastern games.Rant over.

[mcluod]

The devs described the changes they made to Aloy's character model, among other things they made her neck thicker, jaw wider and eyebrows thicker. According to the devs they tried to get closer to Aloy's look as a child from HZW.
I think that's why people call her "ugly". The moves to make her more masculine to underline her "girlbossiness" didn't fly, and it's not because of toxic male gamers: Let's face it, the Horizon franchise is all about strong female character leads, so I doubt anyone really had issue with kick-ass Aloy.
The problem imho is similar to casting a new actor for the second part of a film franchise, e.g. Jodie Foster in "Silence of the lambs" but Julianne Moore in "Hannibal". We can expect the same discussion again when the next "James Bond" actor will be presented.
People just dislike changes to a favourite character, and the changes Aloy received weren't done very well and were perceived as unnecessary or triggered by virtue signaling.

In my opinion that's probably part of it but the other part is that Guerilla reacted to criticism from HZD: That Aloy was raised as a Paria and still ended up being really nice and helpful towards everybody.
Hence Guerilla made her more "badass", with an attitude, and ultimately, more masculine.
Which has lead tp her character becoming less likeable than in the first part, she's now more of a broken hero rather than a shiny knight.

[lp]

If im finna stare at my characters face for 50+ hours in cutscenes then it might aswell be a pretty one. Am i wrong?

[Black Hole]

The fattening is what makes her look less appealing compared to the original.

[Dale]

In business, you positively *MUST* appeal to the middle-of-the-road to sell. She is neither gorgeous or ugly. In Mass-Effect-1, I spent most of my time running around equipping my staff with the very best ARMOR and weapons. Alternatively, the "boys" playing this game who are oblivious to the GAME_OBJECTIVES can go to Nexus Mods, remove the gal's armor and have her running around voluptuously naked & getting shot (roll eyeballs). Why bother playing the game... Duhhhh

[tragickingdom]

l'll say this, most people who call her ugly or fat are either trolling or dumb when comes to graphic technology improvements.
The big difference between Aloy in Zero Dawn vs Forbidden West is the huge graphical improvements made to the series, there are a lot more polygons interweaved and smoved into Aloy (and the rest of the characters & NPCs) compared to the last game. Aloy face is more realistic looking like a real female face than ever.
Go back to the old Zero Dawn game, you can see that there was less detail and emphasis on her everywhere which probably to the low brow gamer looks like a thin Aloy. When nope, its just a dated Aloy with less design work compared to the newer games.

The character improvements in additional to the world detail improvements is also what adds an extra tax on this game.

What's even more crazier is that the DLC Burning Shore, they improve the character designs even further in the cut scenes, my GPU takes a nice hit in performance now.

[longjohn119]

Back in May this was the Outrage Fad of the Month for the right wing culture warriors but they moved on to other things now like Yasuke and Assassin's Creed Shadows and Aloy has been pretty much forgotten .......

Still no face mod for Aloy because all the complainers are either too stupid or too lazy to make one themselves

[Bill]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von mattycoombes:

I am vehemently against all this woke crap in games, but Aloy is not a part of it. This whole Aloy is ugly/fat/changed nonsense is just that, nonsense.

Aloy might be lesbian but i like her as the protagonist....i don't approve of the woke crap either but the horizon games are solid so i've grown fond of alloy...she gets a pass...she isn't spouting radical feminism or anti-male hate or other woke ideologies.