Oh deer. Nothing changed.

[Akim]

Returned to the game after what... 2 years? Nothing changed. Exactly the same lame ♥♥♥ escape, exactly the same kill 10 rats quests at the start. Same PC hating UI. (Promise Devs 2 years ago: We will make the UI PC friendlier...) Still the same superlame starter gear. Still the same "NAME TAKEN" policy.

You'd think NORMALLY when you return to a MMO some stuff changed.

Yeah I know they added stuff at the endgame. But the nothingness of change really baffles me. Even cheap Korean grinders changed SOME stuff over that time.

What a farce. I won't touch a Daybreak game ever again. Them buying the Everquest brand = sob.

[ValenMKII]

Yu wot m8 its a great Gume

[SuperBeasto]

yea i agree, it's mainly due to the fact that they don't drop the ps3 support yet.

[NDKiwi]

Opprinnelig skrevet av KingFerocious:

yea i agree, it's mainly due to the fact that they don't drop the ps3 support yet.

with people complaining about how poorly the game runs on PS3, I'm shocked its still supported. Its bad enough that I still have to disable ingame Vsync to get more than 30 fps

[LadyLightning]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Akim:

What a farce. I won't touch a Daybreak game ever again. Them buying the Everquest brand = sob.

The Everquest brand always belonged to them. The only thing that changed was that sony sold SOE and SOE renamed themselves to Daybreak.

Bt. They streamlined the leveling process and updated graphics, but it seems you didn't play that far..

[elsie]

i just wish we could buy the iconic characters and use them in pve content (not legends pve) instead of only in pvp. :( i dont like my characters

[Rey Ayanami]

Nothing changed...
LMAO
They added some stuff to the game and I`m not talking about new Episodes (DLCs).
I`m talking about:
- Shared Hero and Villan Broker
- Crossover Alerts/Raids with Villans
- New Powers (Munitions, Atomic)
- Important Item Feature
- Ability to expand your Shared Bank
- Replay Badges (to unlock feats for all of your characters)
- New Delete Button with Recovery Items Option
- Bundles in Marketplace
- Base
- League Halls (with League Banks, Mail, R&D Station and Proficienties Station and teleporters to every WT Wing)
- League Proficienties
- Armory and Ameties
- Mark change from MoT to MoV
- LPvE permanent event every month
- SM (Survival Mode)
- R&D Gear
- Welcome Screen
- Free for All Safehouses PvP
- New PvP Instances
- Better Teleporter in Police Station (which contains all Police Stations locations not just one)
- New Weapon (Shield)
- New Armor (Utility Belt that can contain up to 4 Trinkets/Consumable)
- Lair System
- Affinity Mods (Mods that added to your Lair and grands some specific bonuses if you are wearing Elite Armor)
- New Loot System for Endgame (ability to choose what loot you want from 3 showed rewards in a specific ammount of time)
- Gated PvE Content (if you exceed a specific CR for an PvE Instance you will get only loot and no Marks)
- Alternate Reward Box (for guys who still wanna go into the PvE content that is lower then their CR).

And you say that nothing changed?
If you expected new game Ui, new Broker UI, new missions from lvl 5 to lvl 30, maybe a re-branded tutorial, well... too bad that you won`t get these stuff. I`m sorry to dissapointed you.
But you get all the stuff above which is awesome!!!

If you like DCUO, play it if you don`t just go away without causing so much drama around you.

[NDKiwi]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Beatrice:

Nothing changed...
LMAO
They added some stuff to the game and I`m not talking about new Episodes (DLCs).
I`m talking about:
- Shared Hero and Villan Broker
- Crossover Alerts/Raids with Villans
- New Powers (Munitions, Atomic)
- Important Item Feature
- Ability to expand your Shared Bank
- Replay Badges (to unlock feats for all of your characters)
- New Delete Button with Recovery Items Option
- Bundles in Marketplace
- Base
- League Halls (with League Banks, Mail, R&D Station and Proficienties Station and teleporters to every WT Wing)
- League Proficienties
- Armory and Ameties
- Mark change from MoT to MoV
- LPvE permanent event every month
- SM (Survival Mode)
- R&D Gear
- Welcome Screen
- Free for All Safehouses PvP
- New PvP Instances
- Better Teleporter in Police Station (which contains all Police Stations locations not just one)
- New Weapon (Shield)
- New Armor (Utility Belt that can contain up to 4 Trinkets/Consumable)
- Lair System
- Affinity Mods (Mods that added to your Lair and grands some specific bonuses if you are wearing Elite Armor)
- New Loot System for Endgame (ability to choose what loot you want from 3 showed rewards in a specific ammount of time)
- Gated PvE Content (if you exceed a specific CR for an PvE Instance you will get only loot and no Marks)
- Alternate Reward Box (for guys who still wanna go into the PvE content that is lower then their CR).

- The new loot system may have been one of the best things added. I refused to Q/PUG FOS in the old days, because of all the ninja looting.
- Also wouldnt Lair System and Base fall into the same catagory?

[Rey Ayanami]

Opprinnelig skrevet av iNDiKiWi:

- The new loot system may have been one of the best things added. I refused to Q/PUG FOS in the old days, because of all the ninja looting.
- Also wouldnt Lair System and Base fall into the same catagory? :InjusticeFlash::batarang::batsilo::batarang::InjusticeFlash:

I said Base because as free player you have a small Base with one room. But you can upgrade to Lair which contains 4 rooms. That`s the difference between "Base" and "Lair".

[Rey Ayanami]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Shizuru - I:

Oh, and I hate that I lost my account due to Daybreak migration. Contacted the support and they refuse to help me get it back.

Opprinnelig skrevet av Shizuru - I:

The last time I played, I really wished they'd improve the UI and make the starting tutorial optional.

I lost my old SOE account too. I contacted them and they give me a link, supposelly to create a new account and recover the old one. I put there all the information needed and after that guess what? You think they would let me recover my account so easely? Nope.
After I put all the info in the new account they in the next step (screen) they said I should contact Pro Sieben Games. Well flip you SOE/DayBreak with your retarded migration process!!!
I didn`t losed anything there. I had a Free Account with 2 characters that were somewhere at CR 40 or so.
So I deciced to make a new character from SOE (now DayBreak) website and start from scratch again.
The migration was made by SOE not DayBreak. DayBreak might be the SOE`s legacy but legally speaking they are 2 different companies.

Yea, DCUO definitelly needs a newer and improved UI, also an option to skip the tutorial.
Why do I need to make the tutorial for every character that I make?!?

[Rey Ayanami]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Valentine:

i just wish we could buy the iconic characters and use them in pve content (not legends pve) instead of only in pvp. :( i dont like my characters

Why you don`t make some prettier characters and delete the ones you already have now?

[Rey Ayanami]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Akim:

Returned to the game after what... 2 years? Nothing changed. Exactly the same lame ♥♥♥ escape, exactly the same kill 10 rats quests at the start. Same PC hating UI. (Promise Devs 2 years ago: We will make the UI PC friendlier...) Still the same superlame starter gear. Still the same "NAME TAKEN" policy.

You'd think NORMALLY when you return to a MMO some stuff changed.

What starter gear you would expect anyway???
And what quests in DC do you want???

FYI, you can use special characters, if some name is taken. Is called ASCII codes.
You ever heard of them?

[NDKiwi]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Beatrice:

Opprinnelig skrevet av iNDiKiWi:

- The new loot system may have been one of the best things added. I refused to Q/PUG FOS in the old days, because of all the ninja looting.
- Also wouldnt Lair System and Base fall into the same catagory?

I said Base because as free player you have a small Base with one room. But you can upgrade to Lair which contains 4 rooms. That`s the difference between "Base" and "Lair".

that sucks, never been free to play. ....still sounds like it should be a sub catagory, not a seperate item in the list.

[Rey Ayanami]

Opprinnelig skrevet av iNDiKiWi:

I said Base because as free player you have a small Base with one room. But you can upgrade to Lair which contains 4 rooms. That`s the difference between "Base" and "Lair".

that sucks, never been free to play. ....still sounds like it should be a sub catagory, not a seperate item in the list. [/quote]

Also forgot to mention that you can`t use the Mods you put in your Base Generator and you can`t buy trinkets from Mainframe, without having bought Lair system.

[Rey Ayanami]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Reisen:

Opprinnelig skrevet av Beatrice:

CUT

Let me fix something in a better manner

-Shared Hero and Villan Broker
As I find it fine sometimes I would just log my villain,buy some a$$ cheap stuff and quadruple my profits by selling them in the hero broker,not to mention that some villain quest do drop some rare weapons with styles which are not avaliable for heroes.

-Crossover Alerts/Raids with Villans
Good for villains,not so much for heroes,I always had hard times completing seasonal quest with my villain alt cause most of them where borderline stupid and unable to understand basic mechanics,right now if I log with my hero alt and villains are on and I see them doing stupid things I straight leave the instance

-New Powers (Munitions, Atomic)
FOTM Moneygrab as per usual

-Important Item Feature
Double check,having my inventory in order before every salvage/sell saved me everytime,but is a good thing anyway

-Ability to expand your Shared Bank
By paying and I still don't get it,email expires after 20 days,in the past it never expired so my mail was full of sodas R&D components,they changed it because muh server stress like muh exobite node glow was causing performance issues so they had to tone it down and at the very same time they added R&D scanners in marketplace,kinda odd...

-Replay Badges (to unlock feats for all of your characters)
Yeah another moneygrab feature,muh 6-8 weeks to get a complete elite set...I guess is 8 weeks aka 56 raids or resets and probably you will have the complete elite set,which doesn't give you stats but some crappy affinity because people was not resetting stuff anymore as the droprate of any given and good thing is below zero

-New Delete Button with Recovery Items Option
Have to pay for recovery,before it was a GM job,right now they cutted GM funds as even in the past some of them were quite lazy to recovery your items as probably the monegrab scheme was already in the works

-Bundles in Marketplace
Overpriced

-Base
mfw

-League Halls (with League Banks, Mail, R&D Station and Proficienties Station and teleporters to every WT Wing)
Waste of bandwidth

-League Proficiencies
Mind you those proficienties were already in the game,I do remember while off combat my mana and health regeneration,not to mention mana/heal crits were more fast and happening more frequently,then they tied them to league proficiencies to the point that I started to think if it was me sucking at controlling or something was broke or no longer working as it was used to be

-Armory and Amenities
Overpriced and good luck farming collection nodes as both on Stryker's and Arkham the node respawn is set to null,plus Stryker's nodes are polluted with common Metropolis collection pieces for the amenities

-Mark change from MoT to MoV
GU47 was a utterly mess who drove tons of people away,really nothing good with this stupid change

-LPvE permanent event every month
Some are good others like Courthouse,Smallville,Area51,Bludhaven,Paradox,whatever are not because you can't skip and nuke stuff at ease

-SM (Survival Mode)
Waste of time and bandwidth but I think is liked by those WT and HoD posers and elitist scum who wants everything to be perfect and quit straight after the first wipe

-R&D Gear
Because people was no longer resetting to fetch muh best gear,now you have to craft it,and to craft it with the newer loot system you are forced to choose only ONE item,it will take time and probably you will drop said item the week after,oh wait not to mention certain items are good only for a month then they are no more,what's even the point?Right another moneygrab scheme

-Welcome Screen

F U C K I N G A N N O Y I N G as you can't disable it?

-Free for All Safehouses PvP
PvP is dead or full with pubstompers,scriptkiddies or fotm premades

-New PvP Instances
No feats for some,if feats are true sync queues with another group,farm them,who the F cares about them anymore

-Better Teleporter in Police Station (which contains all Police Stations locations not just one)
Whatever

-New Weapon (Shield)
Weapon is useless,only good thing about it is that you have more stats

-New Armor (Utility Belt that can contain up to 4 Trinkets/Consumable)
Utiliy belt,have to pay to use/equip it as in the past with many other things was granted to you upon purchasing Hands of Fail DCL,have to pay a rent for slots,up to Amazon Fury pt.2 belt is useful as still comes with four useable slots,then despite the 250$ belt it all went downtown cause they refused to add a four wildcard/trinket belt,now said belt is coming back with the name OP Belt as a drop from the Blackest Moneygrab Raid

-Lair System
Same as base but a tad more bigger?

-Affinity Mods (Mods that added to your Lair and grands some specific bonuses if you are wearing Elite Armor)
Again?Ef it another moneygrab cause green and blue junk are more common

-New Loot System for Endgame (ability to choose what loot you want from 3 showed rewards in a specific ammount of time)
Another moneygrab,they should have sticked with the individual loot system because if FIVE things dropped such as belt,armor,plan,base item,FE or extra marks you were receiving all of them,now you have to choose between them and it kinda S U C K S and smells like a ♥♥♥♥ jewing you off

-Gated PvE Content (if you exceed a specific CR for an PvE Instance you will get only loot and no Marks)
GU47 docet

-Alternate Reward Box (for guys who still wanna go into the PvE content that is lower then their CR).

Yeah and it mostly drop something useless things.cause MoV and compound sodas droprate is below zero,oh wait it was good when they added this on GU47 but good things only last for 10 days then they tweak the droprates

Yeah nothing as changed,devs are greed and stupid as ever

First of all, I never said "CUT". How can you quote something I never said?!? What does that, tell me about you?
This is the first thing that shows me how lame your comments will be about the changes I said in game.

Let`s see what`s your comments about that features I said in that long list:

1. Shared Broker
You said here that, you find it fine sometimes, because you buy some A$$ cheap stuff and sell them 10x times expensier. Nice, a greedy person. Everybody loves greedy person.
Should I call you a "Cash grabber"?
Yea not every style that you find on villans you expect to find on hero side!!!
On what Earth you live on? You really expected to find villan style on hero side and vice-versa? OMG, how lame is this?!?
And FYI, they do added some villan styles in Prometheum Lockboxes.
Oh, wait. I forgot that Prometheum lockboxes can only be opened with Key bought from where? Exactly, Marketplace!!! ANOTHER MONEY GRABBER!!!

2. Crossover Allerts/Raids with Villans
You said "Good for villans not so much for heroes". Ok, I can relate with that. I played (still have some villan characters) and I know how hard is to make to pop up that Alert or Raid for villans. So I am totally agree with what you said with that.

And you continue with "I always had hard times completing seasonal quest with my villain alt cause most of them where borderline stupid and unable to understand basic mechanics".
So, you had hard times completing seasonal quest? Sorry but we don`t have "quests" in DCUO. Probably just missions. Yea I know SAME SH1T, but in DCUO they aren`t called quests. Let`s just stick with DCUO terms ok?

I don`t think you meant "quest" because that actually means the mission and as far I know the mission can be done solo.
What you meant is the seasonal alert. Which can`t be done solo.

Ok, so what you said now is that, "I can`t do the seasonal alert because the heroes are id1ots", right?

And then you end with an epic, ",right now if I log with my hero alt and villains are on and I see them doing stupid things I straight leave the instance".
So, when you are with your hero, villans are the id1ots?
Make any kind of sense so far?
Who are the most stup1ds? Heroes or Villans???

FYI, I did played with villans before and I really had no single problem with them. Most of them are even nicer then heroes!!!

Anyway, so when you see villans doing stupd things in alerts you rage quit?
Tell me... how lame is that?

3. New powers (Atomic, Munitions)
Yea, MONEY GRABBERS. Why the freaking id1ots from DayBreak couldn`t add them in Marketplace for 100 DB each?!? Or even better, FOR FREE!!!

4. Important Item Feature
Agree with you.

5. Ability to expand your Shared Bank
By paying it but how much is it? Is only 5$ for another 7 slots, which is not that overpriced.

And seriously, what`s the link between Shared Bank and E-mail and R&D Scanners in Marketplace?!?

Do you believe I really care that now you can`t keep your items in your e-mail? Now that they expire after 20 days?
Guess why they changed it? Well... maybe because there were too many guys like you who would keep their items in their e-mail instead of their Bank/Shared Bank!!!

6. Replay Badges
They are not really money grabbers. They are really quite cheap. And beside that you don`t really need them. If you want, you can spend some time, unlocking 1200 Feats for every character all over again. Have Fun!
And I really don`t care in how much time you get your Elite Armor. If you want it, spend some time or Replay Badges to get it, if not NOT!!! Nobody force you to wear Elite Armor!!!

7. New Delete Button with Recovery Items Option
Please define "GM job". How do you know they cutted down GM funds. Working at SOE? Oh, wait, they are now DayBreak. Let me rephrase the question for you: Do you work at DayBreak? How do you even know that?!?

8. Bundles in Marketplace
Yea, I agree. ANOTHER MONEY GRABBER! They all should be like 100 DB ot AT LEAST 300 DB each bundle. Or even better, for free!!!

9. Base
What language is that?
Do you really expect me to know every english acronym? Or better, why do you even force me to google the acronyis you use and I don`t understand them?!?

10. League Halls
"Waste of bandwidth".
LAMEST COMMENT YOU COULD EVER COME WITH!!!
Or wait, maybe you would like the leagues without League Hall, just like they were in 2012 or in 2013. Nice, really nice!

11. League Proficiencies
No they weren`t. I have a character without a league and my Health & Power (NOT MANA, is not a fantasy MMORPG) still replenish quite fast. But they probably they help somehow. Never did a test of how much League Proficienties really help you or not.
I hope someone will do such test.

12. Armory and Amenities
Yes, I agree they are overpriced. Amory = Power = 600 DB?!? WTF?!?
I guess you don`t really understand the difference between "Base Items" and "Amenities".
You can`t get "Amenities" from collections for GODNESS SAKE!!! They can be found only in Marketplace.
Amenities are R&D Station, E-mail, the terminal for Powers/Skill rest, Teleporter and Armory.
These are Amenities. AND THEY ARE NOT FOUND IN ANY COLLECTION IN DCUO!!!

13. Mark change from MoT to MoV
You know why? Because people are lazy and they are un-adaptable to changes.
I don`t see it a bad change really. Why so many PvE Marks when you can have only one and good Mark that can drop in any end-game instance?!?

14. LPvE permanent event every month
So some are good and some are bad.
The only thing that makes some good and some bad because you can`t skip and nuke at ease. It doesn`t sound lame to you?
I don`t really do some LPvE instances TBH, I don`t like doing some of them because they are too freaking hard or just takes too much long to complete.

15. SM (Survival Mode)
"Waste of time", nope. You get there Style or pets that can`t be found anywhere else in game.

"Waste of Bandwith", AGAIN THIS LAME COMMENT?!? WTF
You do know that "bandwith" is related to internet connection, right?
Like you download from a torrent or just any website you like, that takes bandwith and then because you`re too bored to wait for it to download, you decide to play DCUO.
But in DCUO, you expect what? LAG, exactly.
Why? Because both of your download and DCUO use the same internet connection, therefore, sae bandwith and is hard to keep both of them at same level. So 1st priority goes to your download not to you DCUO.

Now, that you know what "bandwith" means please do explain how SM/League Halls are a "waste of bandwith"?

I do agree that some guys are really lame, those kind of, like you said "elitists who want everything to go perfect and rage-quit after first wipe". Lamest guys ever!!!
Also the guys who only look for CR 146+ guys to do r7 or r9, SM.
So what I don`t have CR 146+?!? The minimum CR for SM is 138 for Godness sake!!!
Let me in!!!

16. R&D Gear
Yes and no. Yes is takes a lot of grinding to craft the said armor and yes, probably it will last till the next episode, where they release new gear or new R&D gear, so what`s the point anyway?

But, no, you AREN`T FORCED TO CRAFT IT. You can still buy other gear for you CR at said vendors. The same vendorswho sells you the plans, also sells you normal gear.

LMAO, this a "money grabber". How R&D gear can be a money grabber if is not related at all with Marketplace???
You probably meant "time grabber" or "resouce grabber" (since you need to salvage armor dropped in instances, insted of selling them at NPCs).

17. Welcome Screen
Is "♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥" even a word? Hey, I didn`t knew that.
Is a nice welcome thinghie. I agree for some might be annoying but meh, you just have to deal with that untill they give us an option to disable it from the settings.

18. Free for All Safehouses PvP
PvP in DCUO, DEAD?!? I guess you never played CO, heh.
Sorry, I think I didn`read it well... "scriptkiddies" in PvP. Doesn`t sound that like a hack to you? Doesn`t DayBreak have a hack anti-policity? Weren`t player banned for using hacks in DCUO.
I know a guy who pretened to hack accounts and to know what antivirus people are using. He was banned. I hope for a long time. You know how I know that guy? Because I reported him.

Can you define "pubstompers" and "fotm premades"?!?

[Rey Ayanami]

19. Better Teleporter in Police Station
LOL, "whatever", like "I don`t even care".
Well unless you aren't on cooldown for HQ teleporter and unless you have a Teleporter in your base, yes you do care.

I gues you never played in 2013 when at every Police Station Teleporter was shown only 1 teleporter to another Police Station. And that, my friend, WAS EXTRMELLY LAME!!!

Now is better, so I see it as an improvement.

20. New Weapon (Shield)
Is a difference between "is useless because I don`t do any damage with it" and
"is useless because I can`t spam with it like I can do with other weapons".
But I guess you didn`t knew that, poor you!

21. New Armor (Utility Belt that can contain up to 4 Trinkets/Consumable)
Yea you have to pay for it. Is only 5$ or 15$ if you buy the Bundle.
Yea you pay a "rent" for it. A 2 months and 10 MoVs rent.
Oh, wait, I forgot that for you, that is really overpriced.

"Blackest Moneygrab Raid" LMAO. ANOTHER MONEY GRABBER.
Seriously, if every DLC is for you a money grabber, for all DCUO LOVE, be a freaking FREE TO PLAY PLAYER AND DON`T SPEND ANY MONEY IN THIS GAME!!!

22. Lair System
Not only more bigger than the Basic Base but it also let you to buy batteries for your Generator so you can have all the Stats from the Mods you add in the Mainframe. It also let you buy various trinkets from the Mainframe. YES, ANOTHER MONEY GRABBER.
So you can see the clear difference between them.

23. Affinity Mods
YES ANOTHER MONEY GRABBER BECAUSE IT DOESN`T HAVE THE SLIGHTEST RELATION WITH MARKETPLACE!!! For Godness Sake!!! STOP IT!
Stop with all the "money grabber" bullsh1t!!!!

24. New Loot System for Endgame
ANOTHER MONEY GRABBER?!?
ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!?
Just becaue you can choose between 3 different rewards after you defeat a boss in a Duo/Alert or Raid, that makes it a MONEY GRABBER?!?

25. Gated PvE Content
"GU47 docet"
What "docet" ever means?!?
Also, another lame comment made by Reisen.

26. Alternate Reward Box
Drops useless things like what?
Exobite cluster so you don`t have to farm for them in Metropolis and Gotham?
Prestige Tokes so you can contribute with Prestige to you League?
Tokens of Victory who can help you for feats?

Oh wait, I forgot that the only things that matters for you are Compound Omegas and MoVs which are verry rare. (not "drop rate 0" like you said)

Your conclusion:
"Devs are stupid and greedy as ever".
Also, "Yeah nothing as changed".

My conclusion:
Grow up. You probably have no slightest ideea of what "bandwith" and "money grabbers" even mean!!!
Just because you don`t like most of changes/features added in DCUO, that doesn`t mean "nothing has changed".
Like I said to Akim, don`t like/love DCUO, stop playing it!!! Nobody forces you to play it!
Also nobody forces you to spend a cent in this game!!!