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It's a great game, no doubt about it, but I try not to pay too much attention to the details of the lore because it's just distracting. I like the story the game is giving me so far, and the gameplay is amazing, but I'll just stick to the books for my lore fix from now on. The game's lore is a not-too-terrible distraction, as long as I don't let it get to me.
Moreover, Talion is sort of doing Sauron's work for him; true, he's killing an incredible number of orcs, but the orcs who survive are much, much deadlier than the rest. Just look at the quality of captains you fight in the beginning, versus the end of the game. They go from being relatively vulnerable to intensely battle-hardened veterans that are immune to many types of damage entirely, can kill Graugs or Caragors with incredible speed (which, considering that Talion said he'd need '20 men' to kill a Graug, is astonishing)...
And it's not like we haven't seen that white hand smeared across an orc's face before.
So I don't know whether it fits in 100% with the lore, but to me it's certainly largely compatible. I like to think of it as being like Wicked (the book, not the musical); it's sort of the same story as the Wizard of Oz, it's in the same universe, shares the same characters, but the themes are fundamentally different because of the perspective.
It's certainly plausible that Talion might have fit into the world of the books; how much do we know of the landscape of Mordor, of the wildlife and plants that grow there? Moreover, who's to say that a Graug is not merely another name for a hill troll, or a Caragor another name for a Warg?
I might be giving the game too much credit, but I enjoyed it enough, and it didn't sharply conflict with my understanding of Tolkien's universe to the point that I found it a dealbreaker.
I don't think it's remotely likely that Talion could have existed within the world of the books. One especially notable factor in the books, no heroic character, really uses magical abilites, aside from Wizards. And even Gandalf keeps magic to a minimum. Carries a sword around. As for the idea of the orcs getting stronger, that's largely irrelivant with Sauron's modus operandi. When pushed into outright war, he throws bodies at his enemies until the enemies are worn down. However, Sauron thrives when not in outright war. A true master of manipulation, mindbreaking. He used a number of objects that he could reach through, in the shape of gifts, in order to break the minds of those he wished.
Which is what happened to Saruman. Saruman found the seeing stone, and Sauron's presence, even as weak as it was, reached through, and broke him. Turned him completely against his old goals. Utterly reversed his personality. This wasn't just some chump, this was The White Wizard. The strongest wizard in the world (Until Gandalf became as such) there is no logical way that Talion should be able to actively use Sauron's power, without being utterly reduced to a soulless puppet, akin to the ringwraiths.
The idea of there needing to be a new ring, also completely nuts. Even if Celebrimbor forged a ring, it'd just be a shiny hunk of metal. He was never responsible for the Ring of Power. And the ring of Power is powerful, entirely because of the essence of Sauron within it. All the other rings forged (Which WERE made by Celebrimbor, under the tutelage of Sauron, while Sauron was masqurading as Annatar.) Were as a result, made to be broken by The Ring Of Power. That was the whole point. Sauron had those rings made in order to serve as poison apples. Give them to those who could oppose him, then use the Ring to break them, turning them to Ringwraiths.
The only reason that didn't happen, is because Celebrimbor realised that Annatar was Sauron, and he warned the elves. Sauron killed Celebrimbor, and decided to give the remaining rings to Man and Dwarf. However, the base magic of these rings, are rooted in Sauron. If things had happened the way Sauron had intended, he likely would have won the war.
My point is. Celebrimbor can't make a new ring, if he does, it'll just be a hunk of metal. Talion is far too magically inclined to have existed, he should have been mindbroken not long after he started using virtually any magic power. Not the least because, In Tolkien's lore, place is very important with magic. It's why the Ring can only be destroyed in Mount Doom. Sauron's presence, is strongest within Mordor. And Talion was running around like a jackass yelling, "I've got a dragon ball!"
If, like you said. They -were- being corrupted by the end, it happened WAY too slowly. Especially considering Talion stood in Sauron's presence by the end. Which also, really, should never, ever, ever have happened.