This game is "canon" with the movies of "Lord of the Rings"?

[Larry2233]

Is canon or non-canon like AVP in the Predator and Alien franchise?


(i use translator so if are error is the translator)

[Steven Brattac]

its about a lone ranger from the Wall in mordor revenging his killed wife and son trapped between Death and life and bound to a Spiritsoul of the Creator of the Rings . Hes hunting down the Black Hand who slaughtered his family and trying to solve the mistery why dead has not taken him . this kind of Immortality helps him fight the Hordes of Mordor and there captains and warchiefs! sorry my english sucks but i hope it helped ! I play it now a good while and find it still entertaining and well made espacially the orcs are talkin about common stuff while doin there work , the game as well surprised in the second part with something i dont want to spoil now for you but it s Cool! I almost forgot besides this you get to fight through a lot of area so its not tunnelled and you can Roam free!

[Larry2233]

Originally posted by -Silver the Dragon-:

its about a lone ranger from the Wall in mordor revenging his killed wife and son trapped between Death and life and bound to a Spiritsoul of the Creator of the Rings . Hes hunting down the Black Hand who slaughtered his family and trying to solve the mistery why dead has not taken him . this kind of Immortality helps him fight the Hordes of Mordor and there captains and warchiefs! sorry my english sucks but i hope it helped ! I play it now a good while and find it still entertaining and well made espacially the orcs are talkin about common stuff while doin there work , the game as well surprised in the second part with something i dont want to spoil now for you but it s Cool! I almost forgot besides this you get to fight through a lot of area so its not tunnelled and you can Roam free!

Thanks for all the information but the game is canon with the movies? and if i ask you, is ok to buy this game at full price?

[HerkBot]

The game is enjoyable to play, very cinematic and entertaining. The difficulty starts out medium - hard, at the end its extremely easy. I purchased it for full price + seasons pass. So far its not 100% worth it, but around 80% worth it

TL;DR The game is entirely Canon so far, and it is almost worth full price, depending on future DLC

[Free Luigi M.]

What does "The game is entirely Canon so far" even mean?

Canon means something that is an official part of that storyline/world. This game is not.
It barely even has elements from LotR, and cerainly is not officially accepted into Tolkien's universe.

[HerkBot]

Canon means genuine, and the stories and events of this game a genuine to the LotR universe, aka Canon. Yes they arent written by Tolkien himself, but the the scripts for the Hobbit movies arent either

[Lord Bowser]

On the contrary, I'm pretty sure this game's story was approved as cannon by whoever is in charge of maintaining it. I'm not certain, but I think this would be an easy question for google. I can say this: I have finished the game, and nothing in the story contradicts existing cannon, so for all intents and purposes I consider it to be cannon.

[Free Luigi M.]

Originally posted by Gen | Knower of Nothing:

Canon means genuine, and the stories and events of this game a genuine to the LotR universe, aka Canon. Yes they arent written by Tolkien himself, but the the scripts for the Hobbit movies arent either

No, that's not what it means.
Also, I am not sure what do you mean by "genuine" but this game contains basically nothing genuine.

p.s. the script from the hobbit movies isn't canon as well.

Originally posted by GigaBowser42:

On the contrary, I'm pretty sure this game's story was approved as cannon by whoever is in charge of maintaining it. I'm not certain, but I think this would be an easy question for google. I can say this: I have finished the game, and nothing in the story contradicts existing cannon, so for all intents and purposes I consider it to be cannon.

I am afraid it's not. And if you really believe that nothing contradicts canon... well I am not sure if to take you seriously or not. Cause obviously that is just plainly false. This game is more like an hilarious and terrible fan-fic of LotR.

[Lord Bowser]

Originally posted by Joe Chip:

I am afraid it's not. And if you really believe that nothing contradicts canon... well I am not sure if to take you seriously or not. Cause obviously that is just plainly false. This game is more like an hilarious and terrible fan-fic of LotR.

To what exactly are you referring? I am fairly well versed in Middle-Earth lore, and I have read the Silmarillion. Can you give an example of a story aspect that contradicts (not simply adds to) existing cannon?

[HerkBot]

[quote=joe chip}
No, that's not what it means.
Also, I am not sure what do you mean by "genuine" but this game contains basically nothing genuine.
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^^^first time quoting, don't know how it looks

Joe please introduce your self to goolge, where the definition of canon can be found
"a collection or list of sacred books accepted as genuine."
So infact the definition of canon is genuine, secondly there are several things in this game which are genuine, the fact that Celebrimbor crafted the rings of power and reforged the one ring for sauron, golum craves the one ring, Uruks are stronger than regular Orcs, Sauron is building his Dark army at this time period, the list goes on.

p.s The entire Hobbit movie trilogy is accepted as canon, including the script. 9/10 you wont admit you're wrong

[HerkBot]

ya i failed at quoting :/

[Free Luigi M.]

Originally posted by GigaBowser42:

Originally posted by Joe Chip:

I am afraid it's not. And if you really believe that nothing contradicts canon... well I am not sure if to take you seriously or not. Cause obviously that is just plainly false. This game is more like an hilarious and terrible fan-fic of LotR.

To what exactly are you referring? I am fairly well versed in Middle-Earth lore, and I have read the Silmarillion. Can you give an example of a story aspect that contradicts (not simply adds to) existing cannon?

What do you mean "not simply adds?
Adding IS contradicting in a lot of cases. If I add a giant striped pink elephant in Middle Earth isn't that a contradiction?
In any case, the very beginning and premise of the game (some werid ritual that brings back a dead man and makes him immortal, an elf called back as "wraith" [lol wut] that possesses said man granting him supernatural powers [such as making heads explode with his palms or controlling minds]) is without any doubt not only halariously bad, but against classic Tolkien's lore. If you want minor examples: uruak-hai are saruman's creation, so is the black powder, they cannot exist at this time. But I am sure you were fully aware of that.


As for you, Gen: Having elements from LotR isn't the same thing as making a story "canon". You don't seem to understand what canon means. And yeah, no, we are not referring to canon as a "collection of sacred books".

PJ's movies are consistent within themselves and approved by Tolkien enterprises, but they are not considered Tolkien canon. They are "the movies", and are distinctly separated from Tolkien's literary work. They obviously contain many differences, made up things and changes.
I hope you did not intend to say that PJ's work overwrote in some way what Tolkien created...
But your confused post is probably due to the fact that you have no clear idea what "canon" means.

[Lord Bowser]

Joe, you make a valid point regarding additions, and to a true purist, nothing that did not come from the pen of Tolkien would ever be considered cannon, including the movies. However, I have to give Monolith credit for doing their research - a great deal of material that the average lotr fan would be completely ignorant of is referenced with accuracy, such as the creation of the rings of power, and the blue wizards. As for your specific examples, I will concede on the matter of black powder, but nowhere are uruk-hai mentioned. Uruks are a stronger subrace of orcs that I believe are mentioned in Tolkien's writing (and if not, they have been used in so many other productions that they might as well be), and are the source of the Uruk-hai that Saruman breed. As for Talion's abilities, I don't think mind control or head explosions are any more ridiculous than, say, Sauron's conversion of men to Nazgul, or Beorn's ability to transform into a bear. They simply have not appeared before. Just because Tolkien didn't concieve it doesn't mean it can't exist in his universe.
And at least there are no direct plot contradictions... Hobbit movies, anyone?

[HerkBot]

as GigaBowser says, Uruk-hai are not mentioned in this, Uruk-hai are the next stage in Orc engineering, Black powder is first introduced in the LotR novels as a device used by saruman, it never mentions wether or not he discovered it from rebels trapped within mordor, and a 3rd thing, the game if you bothered to listen while playing explains the domination of orcs
PARAPHRASE
"Orcs were created by Morgoth as a twisted mutation of elves, in order to control them he made them succeptable to fear"

[WolfEisberg]

Originally posted by Larry223:

Is canon or non-canon like AVP in the Predator and Alien franchise?


(i use translator so if are error is the translator)

It is not canon.