Middle-earth™: Shadow of Mordor™

Middle-earth™: Shadow of Mordor™

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Rimzo Sky 5. okt. 2014 kl. 10:30
PS4 vs PC Performance/Graphics
Now I have been playing Shadow of Mordor on PC for around 20 hours, I run the game on the very high preset but with medium textures as I only have a 2gb GDDR5 card, I could run the game with high textures but it would sometimes cause drops/stuttering when I moved the camera quickly and the 2gb VRAM wasn't enough to load the textures in.

Anyway I went to my friends house today and he had bought the game on PS4, and I was astounded to find that the PS4 version looks better than the settings I currently play on (Very High except for Medium Textures). Also it felt VERY smooth even though it was locked to 30 FPS (Vsync).

I did a bit of research and the PS4 is apparently using High textures (The 3gb one according to the Eurogamer Article and Digital Foundry) so unless you have a 3gb card/ have enough Vram to load in the 3gb textures without drops the PS4 version will look better. The only way to make the game look better than the PS4 version is to use the 6gb HD pack.

Also why does 30FPS Vsynced on the PS4 feel so damn smooth? I tried locking my FPS to 30 and it felt like crap on PC.

TL;DR:

Unfortunately that means if you have a 2gb GDDR5 card and are using medium textures, your game will 'look' worse than the PS4 version. PC still retains the 60fps advantage however, but somehow the PS4 version feels very smooth and it doesnt feel terrible like 30fps on PC.

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EnCoRe 6. okt. 2014 kl. 5:41 
shadow of morder plays at 60FPS unlocked at high settings..as for imput latency what a load of tosh..the ps4 uses wireless controlor which is worse i am guessing..you really do need to read up on stuff before you post..or better still.find a PS4 and a copy of morder and play it..it might surprise you
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ShaDoW 6. okt. 2014 kl. 5:51 
Oprindeligt skrevet af EnCoRe:
Oprindeligt skrevet af Holmes:

You won't be saying that in one years time when PC blasts past the next gen consoles in ability. Problem is having to upgrade your PC. It gets costly very quickly.

your missing my point..you already have super powerfull pc's i have one i know what it can do...but as can be seen all new games are made and optimised for consoles..and the pc gets unoptimised ports.....so many problems with pc games now such as crashing freezing,save game problems its just getting worse and worse..i love my pc but only play total war games on it now..games such as shadow of morder play and look great on the PS4 and you don't get any of the problems.
I will only buy games like this for the PS4 now as i just want to play without the hassle of weather its going to run ok or not.
Stop it, you're a console player. Listen, PC games always had problems such as crashing, freezing, etc, that always happens when a new game comes out, and there's multiple ways to fix it. I think you should just sell your PC and stick to your PS4.
fusco 6. okt. 2014 kl. 5:53 
Enable per-object motion blur, it's most likely the reason why it looks smoother on PS4. And don't listen to those "uugh i always disable motion blur because all the cool kids do it", try it for yourself and decide.
Sidst redigeret af fusco; 6. okt. 2014 kl. 5:53
ShaDoW 6. okt. 2014 kl. 5:53 
Oprindeligt skrevet af EnCoRe:
its not the fact that mid range pc's beat consoles ragarding hardware its the fact that the console is better optimised for new games than pc's are..there is no point having better hardware in the pc when games play better on the PS4..i have realised this and now only buy PS4 games..other than total war games.
Except they're not, how is a game better optimized on consoles when they run at 30 fps while the PC version runs at 60(or more depending on your system)?
riggz666 6. okt. 2014 kl. 5:57 
I have played ME:SoM on PS4 and will be doing a side by side comparison...just for fun.
How does one monitor fps on a PS4?
EnCoRe 6. okt. 2014 kl. 6:00 
Oprindeligt skrevet af llllShaDoWllll:
Oprindeligt skrevet af EnCoRe:
its not the fact that mid range pc's beat consoles ragarding hardware its the fact that the console is better optimised for new games than pc's are..there is no point having better hardware in the pc when games play better on the PS4..i have realised this and now only buy PS4 games..other than total war games.
Except they're not, how is a game better optimized on consoles when they run at 30 fps while the PC version runs at 60(or more depending on your system)?

shadow of morder plays at 60 FPS unlocked on the PS4.as most games will,read up about it, as for selling my PC..i won't be upgrading anymore if thats what you mean ,there really is no point not when games look and play as good as they do on a PS4..no crashes no save game corupts,less cheating scallywags in multiplayer..the only downside is no mods but i never use them anyway...
EnCoRe 6. okt. 2014 kl. 6:03 
Oprindeligt skrevet af Shame on you NVidia:
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ShaDoW 6. okt. 2014 kl. 6:03 
Oprindeligt skrevet af EnCoRe:
Oprindeligt skrevet af llllShaDoWllll:
Except they're not, how is a game better optimized on consoles when they run at 30 fps while the PC version runs at 60(or more depending on your system)?

shadow of morder plays at 60 FPS unlocked on the PS4.as most games will,read up about it, as for selling my PC..i won't be upgrading anymore if thats what you mean ,there really is no point not when games look and play as good as they do on a PS4..no crashes no save game corupts,less cheating scallywags in multiplayer..the only downside is no mods but i never use them anyway...
Are you on drugs? Or just trolling?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_6ChIGB1yA
EnCoRe 6. okt. 2014 kl. 6:05 
Oprindeligt skrevet af llllShaDoWllll:
Oprindeligt skrevet af EnCoRe:

shadow of morder plays at 60 FPS unlocked on the PS4.as most games will,read up about it, as for selling my PC..i won't be upgrading anymore if thats what you mean ,there really is no point not when games look and play as good as they do on a PS4..no crashes no save game corupts,less cheating scallywags in multiplayer..the only downside is no mods but i never use them anyway...
Are you on drugs? Or just trolling?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_6ChIGB1yA


thats is bs and that vid looks crap to what it really looks like...stop taking youtube vids and go read proper gameing sites
fusco 6. okt. 2014 kl. 6:05 
Oprindeligt skrevet af Shame on you NVidia:
Offcourse i own a game i had pirated it,you capitalist NSA slave.

dude stop spamming, one post is more than ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ enough
Ruiner 6. okt. 2014 kl. 6:06 
Oprindeligt skrevet af EnCoRe:
shadow of morder plays at 60FPS unlocked at high settings..as for imput latency what a load of tosh..the ps4 uses wireless controlor which is worse i am guessing..you really do need to read up on stuff before you post..or better still.find a PS4 and a copy of morder and play it..it might surprise you

According to this article, while the texture detail might be set to high on the PS4, the other settings are not. http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2014-shadow-of-mordor-face-off

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_6ChIGB1yA

The PS4 and Xbone run it at 30FPS, capped, vsync. There you go. The blue glowing eye effect reportedly causes the framerate to drop.


Oprindeligt skrevet af Frank:
Enable per-object motion blur, it's most likely the reason why it looks smoother on PS4. And don't listen to those "uugh i always disable motion blur because all the cool kids do it", try it for yourself and decide.

If you're getting a decent framerate, there's no reason to have motion blur on. Motion blur is bad because it reduces detail.

https://frames-per-second.appspot.com/
Set one to 60FPS with motion blur, and the other to 60FPS without motion blur. Which has more detail? There you go.

This is a fact, it's not opinion. Motion blur is undesirable, and it only exists to make low framerates look smoother.
Sidst redigeret af Ruiner; 6. okt. 2014 kl. 6:10
ShaDoW 6. okt. 2014 kl. 6:06 
Oprindeligt skrevet af EnCoRe:
Oprindeligt skrevet af llllShaDoWllll:
Are you on drugs? Or just trolling?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_6ChIGB1yA


thats is bs and that vid looks crap to what it really looks like...stop taking youtube vids and go read proper gameing sites
Ok, i just realized you're a troll.
fusco 6. okt. 2014 kl. 6:09 
Oprindeligt skrevet af Ruiner:
Oprindeligt skrevet af EnCoRe:
shadow of morder plays at 60FPS unlocked at high settings..as for imput latency what a load of tosh..the ps4 uses wireless controlor which is worse i am guessing..you really do need to read up on stuff before you post..or better still.find a PS4 and a copy of morder and play it..it might surprise you

By all accounts, it runs at less than 60FPS the majority of the time.


Oprindeligt skrevet af Frank:
Enable per-object motion blur, it's most likely the reason why it looks smoother on PS4. And don't listen to those "uugh i always disable motion blur because all the cool kids do it", try it for yourself and decide.

If you're getting a decent framerate, there's no reason to have motion blur on. Motion blur is bad because it reduces detail.

https://frames-per-second.appspot.com/
Set one to 60FPS with motion blur, and the other to 60FPS without motion blur. Which has more detail? There you go.

This is a fact, it's not opinion. Motion blur is undesirable, and it only exists to make low framerates look smoother.

Motion blur will make the game feel smoother, which is what OP is complaining about, that the console version is smoother despite having lower FPS. TRY motion blur before listening to the mass of people who say it's bad. Get your own opinion.
Rimzo Sky 6. okt. 2014 kl. 6:14 
Oprindeligt skrevet af Ruiner:
I have a 2GB 670GTX and play on high textures with 74-100FPS 99% of the time. PS4 does not look or run better than my PC, it's absolutely not possible due to the specs of the PS4.

Actually the PS4 is capable of running the High Texture pack with ease, it has 8gb of Shared GDDR5 Memory and can easily allocate 3gb to textures. It won't run at 60 fps but it will still 'look' as good as PC High settings albeit running at a motion blurred, vsynced 30 fps.

So no the PS4 wont run better than your PC, but it can compete on looks.
Ruiner 6. okt. 2014 kl. 6:16 
Oprindeligt skrevet af Frank:
Motion blur will make the game feel smoother, which is what OP is complaining about, that the console version is smoother despite having lower FPS. TRY motion blur before listening to the mass of people who say it's bad. Get your own opinion.

Motion blur sucks, for this game I'll stick to 100FPS without motion blur. I specifically bought a 144hz monitor with blur reduction to eliminate as much blur as possible. LCDs have inherent blur, the human eye has inherent blur. The last thing I need is artifical blur being added when hardware flaws introduce blur.

Maybe you should get a clue, my opinion is fine.
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