Cant seem to dodge Caragor or shield guy attacks.

[ifandbut]

I am having issues with dodging caragor and shield and spear orc attacks. I am using a 360 controller so when the prompt comes up it says to press A however I do so and nothing seems to happen and I get hit regardless. I have no problem doing counters with the Y button. Is it a timing issue on my side or is there something I am missing?

[Lieutenant Dan]

A + direction, you roll away.

[Vlas]

Yeah, I have the same problem with kb/mouse.

I thought it was "spacebar lag" or something, but it just might be the game isnt registering the input.

It happens with all enemies that require the spacebar to be pressed. however, the spacebar works just fine while running and other manouvers that require it.

[pigloaf]

I also have an xbox controller, also have no problem doing counters, but also seem to get nailed by Caragors a lot... enough so that should have a caragor weakness trait...
I'd like to say it's a controller issue, but it's more likely I need to practice / my brain thinks i'm adding direction but i'm actually not.

[The Comedian]

I guess it's just how the game works. When block prompt pops up, you press the block button and the attack is blocked. However, it is not the same with dodge. Space in itself does nothing, it means, that you have to dodge sideways so you don't get hit. One button press will not guarantee you evasion.

[Lieutenant Dan]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von The Comedian:

I guess it's just how the game works. When block prompt pops up, you press the block button and the attack is blocked. However, it is not the same with dodge. Space in itself does nothing, it means, that you have to dodge sideways so you don't get hit. One button press will not guarantee you evasion.

This

[ifandbut]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Dangalf:

A + direction, you roll away.

Ok, I guess that makes sence. Now the next question is which direction? Toward, away, or 90 degree angle from the attack?

[The Comedian]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von ifandbut:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Dangalf:

A + direction, you roll away.

Ok, I guess that makes sence. Now the next question is which direction? Toward, away, or 90 degree angle from the attack?

Sideways. Jumping towards would be doing all the job of killing you for them, wouldn't it.

[Aldrenean]

It's not like most games where you get a guaranteed dodge, the indicator is more of a helper than a QTE. You can still get hit if it's a long attack or you dodge too late, or obviously if you dodge into it.

The shield guys can be really damn hard, combined with vault breaker they're nearly gamebreakingly OP.

[Kingsgate Mall]

I have the same problem. I have vsync on and I think it might be causing a slight input lag... because I also notice that sometimes in last chance mode I clearly tap the button in time but the game doesn't register it. Counters are easier as there is a longer window of time to push the button.

[Warchief]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von ifandbut:

I am having issues with dodging caragor and shield and spear orc attacks. I am using a 360 controller so when the prompt comes up it says to press A however I do so and nothing seems to happen and I get hit regardless. I have no problem doing counters with the Y button. Is it a timing issue on my side or is there something I am missing?

i just use space and jump over them, for those that you cant still use space to summersault awway from them and i use my F killing bllows to attack the shields, unless you have the dash attack then just keep dashing at them

[ifandbut]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von The Comedian:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von ifandbut:

Ok, I guess that makes sence. Now the next question is which direction? Toward, away, or 90 degree angle from the attack?

Sideways. Jumping towards would be doing all the job of killing you for them, wouldn't it.

But when I dodge toward other orcs I roll over them.

[Beravin]

This is the only issue I have with the combat system. Parry is responsive, easy to use, and very effective. Dodging, on the other hand, just feels clunky, unresponsive and slow. Instead, I just kill whatever I would normally have to dodge as quickly as possible. Works really well for me.

[Aardwolf]

I think i figured out what is wrong with dodge. You cannot perform a doge if you are in the middle of an attack swing. So by the time you finish your swing, you are too late to perform the dodge even though you press the space + direction in time. This is not a problem with parry as it interrupts the current action. I think they need to fix this so a space dodge interrupts the current action like parry. As it is it is almost useless.

[BadMarmoset]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von BrokenAardvark:

I think i figured out what is wrong with dodge. You cannot perform a doge if you are in the middle of an attack swing. So by the time you finish your swing, you are too late to perform the dodge even though you press the space + direction in time. This is not a problem with parry as it interrupts the current action. I think they need to fix this so a space dodge interrupts the current action like parry. As it is it is almost useless.

I think you're right about the mechanics of it, and it should be fixed, but on my machine I am also getting a bit of a delay with the dodge/jump button anyway especially noticeable when climbing onto the tops of walls etc. Using an XBox 360 Controller I can press the A button several times before the animation kicks in and Talion decides he wants to follow my instructions.
As a side note I think it's a bad idea to priortise the movement before action i.e. if I've reached the top of a wall and I'm pressing Left with the stick and A(jump) then my preference would be to get up and then continue going left. As it is I'm often just moving along a ledge until I remember to completely release the left stick before using A. Or maybe I'm just clumsy!
This and the camera being far too close to Talion during fights are my only problems with the game.

[adambunny87]

yeh im havving kinda issues with it. ive gone for the take the shield guys out 1st technique then i can ♥♥♥♥ em in the ass