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Why is Talion so huge?
He is massive compared to other humans, but appears normal size in cutscenes if I remember correctly. He is pretty much orc-size. Is there a lore reason for this, or is this to help animations with orcs in combat match-up better?

Edit: I know nothing about LoTR, was hoping someone could enlighten me.
Last edited by TacticalFaux; Sep 7, 2017 @ 2:20pm
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Zebedee Sep 7, 2017 @ 4:58pm 
Lore reason could be that he may be of Numenorean descent, and they were like 6'6 average height. Aragorn in LOTR was meant to be something like that tall.

The game plays fast and loose with the lore so I doubt it's really going to be thought through like that. I'd always assumed that the orcs were just super-sized at an average man's height.
Last edited by Zebedee; Sep 7, 2017 @ 4:59pm
Grimjaw Sep 8, 2017 @ 6:29pm 
Rangers of Gondor are built strong and tall....maybe?
RCMidas Sep 8, 2017 @ 6:33pm 
Interestingly, he even says in-game "No blood of Numenor flows in my veins", so he's just an unusually large man from a lore perspective.

From a game perspective, yeah, I'd agree it was to make the model interactions easier.
Reverend Belial Sep 8, 2017 @ 7:25pm 
I think it's probably just a gameplay thing, yeah.
Elric Sep 9, 2017 @ 12:15pm 
I always thought it was the slaves/outcasts who were short, can't imagine they eat well in Mordor and lack of food might have stunted their growth
Grimjaw Sep 9, 2017 @ 5:27pm 
steroids
Atomic Pineapple Nov 14, 2018 @ 6:29am 
The dude is 5'8 - 5'9 ish maybe
prob the combat training made him buff
Reverend Belial Nov 14, 2018 @ 11:41am 
Originally posted by Atomic Pineapple:
The dude is 5'8 - 5'9 ish maybe
prob the combat training made him buff
1. N-n-n-necropost!

2. Talion is confirmed by the devs to be 6'6" or 6'8" or something absolutely absurd like that.
Valden21 Nov 14, 2018 @ 4:23pm 
Originally posted by RCMidas:
Interestingly, he even says in-game "No blood of Numenor flows in my veins", so he's just an unusually large man from a lore perspective.

From a game perspective, yeah, I'd agree it was to make the model interactions easier.

He wouldn't be the first really tall man to show up in LOTR. If I recall correctly, Beorn from The Hobbit was easily over 7 feet. There's also a chance that Talion could be Rohirrim (i.e, he's from Rohan), as in the lore, the Men of Numenor and the Men of Rohan were distantly related. Since one of the inspirations for the Rohirrim was medieval Scandinavia, it could be that. But if Talion IS Rohirrim, he would be an anomaly, as there's no record of ANY Rohirrim fighting and traveling on foot. They're horsemen, through and through.
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talemore Nov 16, 2018 @ 9:35am 
Medieval people were shorter than today's. It's a bad console port. That's why. The guy is huge because the game is made to be played on a huge screen.
Reverend Belial Nov 16, 2018 @ 1:14pm 
Originally posted by talemore:
Medieval people were shorter than today's. It's a bad console port. That's why. The guy is huge because the game is made to be played on a huge screen.
The guy is huge to better match animations with the huge Uruks. Has zero to do with consoles.
talemore Nov 17, 2018 @ 3:00am 
Actually no, celebrimbor is not as wide like a barn and still manages to animate with the orcs. The character is basically batman reskin, forced in twined steel wires in the orc cities who doesn't belong to the environment.
TacticalFaux Nov 17, 2018 @ 9:04am 
Originally posted by talemore:
Actually no, celebrimbor is not as wide like a barn and still manages to animate with the orcs. The character is basically batman reskin, forced in twined steel wires in the orc cities who doesn't belong to the environment.

Celebrimbor is still big compared to the slaves.
stephhhny Nov 17, 2018 @ 9:41am 
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