Year One Survival

[Aurumlamina]

I've just recently heard of the redone State of Decay featuring a lot of new content! I know that it's going to be released on PC, but does anyone know if it is going to be released on Steam?

[Sivarg]

Of course.

[Aurumlamina]

Huzzah!

[Aron]

but to expensive

[Sivarg]

Originally posted by Aron:

but to expensive

Not really. You get a well polished game for around 20 euro. Plus a special character that only pre-purchasers can get. Besides you get a discount on the game. You'll have to wait atleast 6 months before you can possibly get a discount on the game again and you won't be able to get the character.

[Aron]

Originally posted by Sivarg:

Originally posted by Aron:

but to expensive

Not really. You get a well polished game for around 20 euro. Plus a special character that only pre-purchasers can get. Besides you get a discount on the game. You'll have to wait atleast 6 months before you can possibly get a discount on the game again and you won't be able to get the character.

yeah see to expensive

[GameWare]

This game is released on april 28th but PC gamers still can't pre-order. Anyone know why?

[Sivarg]

Originally posted by HomieD┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐:

This game is released on april 28th but PC gamers still can't pre-order. Anyone know why?

Maybe they want just a month, March 28th, to be when you can pre-purchase it.

[GameWare]

Originally posted by Sivarg:

Originally posted by HomieD┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐:

This game is released on april 28th but PC gamers still can't pre-order. Anyone know why?

Maybe they want just a month, March 28th, to be when you can pre-purchase it.

Sounds about right to me.

[Bigguns 93]

Originally posted by Sivarg:

Originally posted by Aron:

but to expensive

Not really. You get a well polished game for around 20 euro. Plus a special character that only pre-purchasers can get. Besides you get a discount on the game. You'll have to wait atleast 6 months before you can possibly get a discount on the game again and you won't be able to get the character.

You are either a sucker or you work for Undead Labs.

Its the same exact game you already own. Except there are still plenty of bugs in the current game. So you are going to give them 20 Euros to get the same game with better resolution? Give me 20 Euros and you have your choice of magic beans , special invisible clothes the king wears, or the pen is mighter.

Do not buy the Year One bull ♥♥♥♥♥♥. You reward developers for not fixing problems and offering an insultingly low discount to buy something they should be doing for free. Soon you will be paying them to fix bugs from day one and then they will start adding in game microtransactions.

Vote with your money. Tell them NO ! Fix the game we already bought, then release a NEW GAME with new content, new story lines, new engine.

[Gloomseeker]

The problem is that releasing a patched up version of an existing game is becoming a thing: just take Sleeping Dogs, Deus Ex Human Revolution, Metro 2033, Metro Last Light, Dark Souls 2 and now State of Decay.

I can't say I like this trend.

The good thing is that we should get a discount, the bad thing is that for most players the new features probably won't justify spending more money especially when you already own the game and all the DLC.

And in all fairness the preorder bonus thing looks pretty bad IMO.

I guess it's up to you to decide how you want to spend your money. It seems to me that the new release is a great deal for newcomers but if indeed the discount is only 33% then it's not that great for current players. Usually when a game is released like that people get at least 50% (Deus Ex Human Revolution was rather fair in that respect).

[Sivarg]

There's a reason YOSE is happening though. UL got a contract with Microsoft. MS only allows a certain limit of stuff in their games. Also the first SoD was a Xbox port. Another reason why some bugs couldnt be fixed. Now that MS has allowed UL to make a PC VERSION, they can finally release something as good as YOSE. Blame MS, not UL for this.

[Gloomseeker]

Originally posted by Pirate Lass:

There's a reason YOSE is happening though. UL got a contract with Microsoft. MS only allows a certain limit of stuff in their games. Also the first SoD was a Xbox port. Another reason why some bugs couldnt be fixed. Now that MS has allowed UL to make a PC VERSION, they can finally release something as good as YOSE. Blame MS, not UL for this.

There are always reasons but sincerely it doesn't make it right for players to pay for the exact same content a second time (and eye candy, HD stuff and better DLC integration hardly qualifies as something new especially if what you care about is the story and the characters involved).

Sure, polishing a game takes some work and you have to pay people for that but what I don't get is how people can find excuses for this trend that makes us buy games twice...

I'm not blaming anyone in particular mind you. I'm not pointing the finger at the devs either. If I were to blame someone I would blame people who encourage these practices by embracing them. I'm guilty, I have both versions of Deus Ex HR in my steam library (but in my defence the new version did get a decent discount for previous buyers so it was like getting some DLC and not a new game, still fool me once... I'm not getting the new supposedly improved version of Sleeping Dogs anytime soon that's for sure).

What Bigguns 93 posted above makes a lot of sense. Nobody would have anything to say against a brand new game with enough content to justify a full price tag.

[Sivarg]

I think the devs are making this for all those players who wanted an updated PC version you see. They said on their forums that MS was very strict and it wouldn't be easy getting the greenlight to make a new pc game. I bet somewhere only reason MS wanted to go through with it was the new price tag, and the discount was for the players that are willing to pay for the updated version. You must remember, the original game plus dlcs all round up to almost 20 euro i think. So it does make sense with the price tag for this updated version somewhere. Sec I'll go check it now.

EDIT: Okay I looked through the shop pages, and turns out main game is 18,99, breakdown is 5,99, lifeline is 6,99.

YOSE will be around 20 euro I think with the discount.
So lets face it, somewhere down the line, YOSE is actually cheaper. YOSE is also for new players. Besides, all pre-purchasers get a special character. It's a way of saying thank you to all the fans from UL.

[nobrien]

Why are we still talking about this we just had a 500+ post thread locked because there was nothing left to say, If you have done your research then you know that YOSE is nothing to do with the original game which is why it can disregard the XBL lisence restrictions of size and content for PC and consoles,

That means for the FIRST time ULs can put in all the extra content they had to remove as well aslot of stuff from our wish lists THE FULL LIST of content/changes in YOSE has yet to be released so noone can assume anything at this point.

Based on the videos and posts on ULs forums this version is totaly incompatabile with the version of SOD that is available right now in every way and if it where a patch of the original game they couldnt do any PC only changes which they have allready said are in YOSE.

IF you want to be ignorant then i cant help you, the info is out there for those actually interested
in making informed descions but stop with all the miss information because its just getting ppl worked up for no good reason.

[Gloomseeker]

A different engine will make it incompatible, but a new engine doesn't make it such a radical improvement for a player who is more concerned with actual content and stories.

In any case I'm sick and tired of that new trend, Sleeping Dogs, Deus Ex Human Revolution, Metro 2033, Metro Last Light, Dark Souls 2 were all playable in their original states. I've come to this forum to find out what was going on with the new version of State of Decay and what I see is either people dismissing it outright or people defending it fanatically.

Call me ignorant if you have to, but you're not making any point that would convince me that I'm wrong. I'm not disputing that the new release is a great deal for new players but I'll wait to see the actual improvements and determine if they are worth spending my hard earned money and as a consumer that is the smart thing to do.

Last but not least, preordering to get a bonus exclusive NPC is definitely NOT the smart move so stop pretending otherwise. Preorder exclusives are among the worst things to ever happen to video games and if you can't see that there is no reason to spend money on a product before being able to make an informed rational decision about it then there is nothing more to discuss.