Heavy Armour Proficiency - Holy Cr*p...

[schuggerbaby]

That was the second time I managed my way all the way to Level 12 to get heavy armour proficiency.
What the hell am I supposed to do?
I took one Stregth advancement during character generation and the 3 further Strength advancements along the way. As you can see in the screenshot, his Stregth is now 50 and the requirements for that Talent is Stregth 45.
Am I overlooking something?

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2998041032

[reevestone]

I've been able to take Heavy Armor Proficiency in some of my runs and not in others. What I've deduced that seems to be the cause is that in order to take it a character must have exactly 45 Strength at the time they're taking it, and having any more than 45 Str will have it say you don't meet the prerequisites. Which is obviously a bug, but I am fairly sure that is how it is currently working in the beta.

[schuggerbaby]

Well...

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2998092119

here is the screenshot from the other playtrough - exactly Strength 45 and still can't take Heavy Armour Proficiency...

[Marcos_DS]

Do you have a background that adds or substracts STR? Due to a bug, you cannot take heavy armor prof. no matter what strength you get if your background modifies STR (even if you increase it to 60 or something).

[schuggerbaby]

Nguyên văn bởi Marcos_DS:

Do you have a background that adds or substracts STR? Due to a bug, you cannot take heavy armor prof. no matter what strength you get if your background modifies STR (even if you increase it to 60 or something).

Nope. Gladly I take saves from all level Ups :)
Here is the Character when I got to Level 10.
As you can see, he started with Strength 30, took one +5 advancement in character generation and took further two +5 advancements when leveling.
Here he has Strength exactly at 45 but is not able to take Heavy Armour Proficiency.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2998420567

[Cypher]

I think you need a base 45 on strength not a modified value. I can't see your screenshots (gives me an error each time). So if you have a modified strength of 50 but on your char sheet you see 50 (-10) your strength is actually 40. You would now need, in this example, a str of 55 to accommodate the -10 penalty. You may have more than the one penalty, from what i'm hearing.

[schuggerbaby]

Dont know about the screenshots, anyone else having probllems seeing them?

I The last pic is when levelling from level 9 to 10 with a strength of 45. I thought exactly what you suggestet and played further to get him to Strength 50 and still no luck at taking the proficiency.

Once again the Math:
Base Strenght 30
One +5 advancement in character generation = strength 35
Two Strength advancements while Leveling to Level 9 = Strength 45 - can't take HAP
Taking another +5 adavancement = STR 50 still can't take HAP

Besides, it doesn't make much sense that STR advancements taken during character generation are not taken into account for the preequisit of STR 45 for this proficiency.
It is bugged, that much is clear, but as some people seem to have been able to take this proficiency on their MC I would really like to know how to do it.

[Cypher]

Oh, i definitely think there are bugs, it should be on your actual (final) strength total, not the base. and the display is nuts, as it shows your final total, with the mod next to it, (as in, "You do the math"), it should be going on whatever that number states and the modifiers are shown when you hover over it, like in their 2 previous games! Not sure if it's just that the rules aren't DnD 5e, I never played the Rogue Trader RPG so not sure on the system and how (if) it differs from DnD..

Further, I've basically decided to go Fighter all the time now so i can get that hvy armour perk without all the hassle

[schuggerbaby]

Well, MC is a fighter, but this doesn't seem to have any impact in taking this prificiency.
Anyway, the horse is already quite dead and I've given up on this issue.
Are there any news around regarding a patch?

[Bobisud]

I can't see the screenshot and what I found if you have bonus strength from character creation you can't take it because the code is bugged. If you have strength from character creation then if you level up, your strength from level up counts as - to that check. So it is impossible to take that trait.

[schuggerbaby]

Nguyên văn bởi Bobisud:

I can't see the screenshot and what I found if you have bonus strength from character creation you can't take it because the code is bugged. If you have strength from character creation then if you level up, your strength from level up counts as - to that check. So it is impossible to take that trait.

Following that logic, I should be able to take the proficiency then, if the character has STR of 50, right?

[Magni]

Nguyên văn bởi schuggerbaby:

Nguyên văn bởi Bobisud:

I can't see the screenshot and what I found if you have bonus strength from character creation you can't take it because the code is bugged. If you have strength from character creation then if you level up, your strength from level up counts as - to that check. So it is impossible to take that trait.

Following that logic, I should be able to take the proficiency then, if the character has STR of 50, right?

If you have any modifiers to your base strength in your character background (such as the bonus from a Deathworld homeworld) you can't unlock HAP, period. It's a known bug. Only way to get it in that case is Toybox.

[schuggerbaby]

Yep, heard that. Consequently in this playtthrough I started out with a character who hadn't any origin bonuses to his STR. Just took a +5 advancement during from the 40 points you can distribute during character generation.
Brought him to STR 45 - didn't work
Another player suggested you have to discount the initial advancements you take to STR when calculating the requirements for HAP
Brought him to STR 50 - didn't work.

The only think I can think of to make this work is by starting ou with a butt-naked 30 STR in character generation.

[Telaka]

got same bug on my PC, curiusly abelard(companion) don't have/experience the same problem/bug, everytime I bring him to 45 str he can select the heavy armor no problem.

I also manage to get this Heavy armor talent on one of my playthrough, but can't anymore after that one. the only diffrence I remember that I did in this particular play in regards to get this talent is that I was in very late in game/High Character level and I got the talent while progressing the second doctrine(vanguard), it was also a death world character too.

EDIT: I uploaded some screenies on my profile with my char having heavy armor prof if anyone is interested.

PS: sorry for english kinda tired here :)

[schuggerbaby]

Yup, no Problem with Abelard.
STR 45 and he can pick HAP whenever there is a Talent option available.
For shi*s&giggles I tried the same with Argenta. As Hunter you could pick STR and I upped her to STR 45, but wasn't able to take HAP.

[Yolo$wagger]

I had the exact same bug, it makes no sense.

Were you ultimately able to pick Heavy Armor Proficiency?

If not, somebody suggested an alternative solution by picking 1 level-up of "Athletics" before you try taking "Heavy Armor Proficiency".