Someone is dying on the ground!

[Godzilla Rose]

Yea I need help. I can't figure out how ro revive someone, and now they're dead.

[Kappa Omicron]

You need a blood pack and someone in your party with the Surgeon skill.

[Godzilla Rose]

If I don't have a surgeon?

[northwind]

well... cry

[Kappa Omicron]

Then that person on the ground is screwed. Hard world in the wasteland, I know. Must always make sure you have someone with some kind of medic capabilities if you want to survive.

At the Ag Center I managed to pick up a scientist who has those skills thankfully.

[Godzilla Rose]

Well that's stupid. PLay however you want. Except make sure everyone takes combat skills and medic skills. With maybe one or two other skills at best.

"Play however we want" my ass. The combat isn't good enough to justify playing this game, and if I take any other skills I feel penalized as there is nothing but fights.

[Kappa Omicron]

Originally posted by Duke of Weselton:

Well that's stupid. PLay however you want. Except make sure everyone takes combat skills and medic skills. With maybe one or two other skills at best.

"Play however we want" my ass. The combat isn't good enough to justify playing this game, and if I take any other skills I feel penalized as there is nothing but fights.

It's all about balancing your rangers. You work in a team, so whatever ranger you have as your medic, you want them furthest away from the enemy supporting your other rangers.

And you are playing however you want. It's just the way you chose to play cost one of your ranger's lives. The wasteland is very unforgiving

[Godzilla Rose]

Okay all combat, shoot everyone on sight, take everything to help me survive, and have two medics kind of game. Gotcha. I didn't realize the "choice" offered was a cheap meaingless affair since the only way to advance is shooting every last thing to death.

Thanks, this has been a real eye opener. I was confusing an rpg with a third person top down shooter. My mistake.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NN30YMzja6Y

[starkmaddness]

Ignoring the fact that there actually is more than just fighting, having a medic is part of fighting. Just like the looting skills are, as they provide you with ammo to fight with.

[Kappa Omicron]

Well it is you trying to survive in the wasteland, so of course you need to scavenge anything and everything to survive. Plus it's a messed up post apocalyptic world full of mutants, raiders and other nasties. So it's very likely that you'll have to shoot almost everything you find out there because it's a dog eat dog world they live in.

I thought it'd be common sense to bring someone who has some medic abilities, you only need to get your surgeon to level 1 which only costs 2 skill points to be able to use a blood pack to bring someone back after being downed.

[Godzilla Rose]

I did bring someone with field treatment. I didn't know surgury was superior and necessary.

[Godzilla Rose]

I feel like I wasted my time with a character who is good at talking. Big time.

[Kappa Omicron]

Originally posted by Duke of Weselton:

I feel like I wasted my time with a character who is good at talking. Big time.

Well all is not lost yet, if you level up and get 2 skill points on someone, you can add surgeon level one to that person.

[Luigi Mangione]

I brought a medic out of common sense. However, I totally feel you re: character who is good at talking.

[slund]

Field Treatment is what allows use to use items like blood packs and antibiotics. Surgery allows you to revive/stabilize dying characters, both are useful but you can definately play without them it just makes the game much more difficult.

Also a speech based character is quite useful to have, they can allow you to talk your way through some combat encounters and they can also get you extra items/weapons, for example talk to the guard at ranger citadel with a character with 2 points in hardass or (i think) smartass and you will get a nice surprise.

Part of the fun in a game like this is to try out different combinations of skills, and either get killed or triumph over adversity.

If you are looking for a good starting party however I would suggest a balanced setup, personally I go with a "face" (speech skills/leadership/pistols), a melee character with brute force and weapon striping/making, a "scout" (a ranged weapon skill, lockpicking, safecracking, perception and outdoorsman) and a "medic" (a ranged skill, field treatment, Surgery, Synth Tech, Hacking and toaster repair). I have had a great deal of success with this party on the highest difficulty and have not permenantly lost a ranger yet (with the exception of a tpk against three very poweful robots).

[Revolucas]

You gotta play hardcore Iron Man mode, it's the only way. My first game I died from a random encounter in the Wasteland after the first radio tower; I restarted. Luckily I haven't died yet or lost any Rangers at the moment.