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Soundless

Oct 21, 2014 @ 12:22pm

Rail Nomad Help

So i talked to everyone in rail nomad i heard both sides. I stole the golden spike and somehow they found out even though i stealthed it completely without killing anyone, thats besides the point. I went to Casey or james whatever the poorer towns leader is he is not in his tent?

Where is he?

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stretch

Oct 21, 2014 @ 4:54pm

I couldn't figure this town out sorry. Played a couple of times and it is just straight up confusing as hell. The only time he moved was near the end of the quest line when they both agreed to meet. When they do this the meeting point is at the zone in to the poorer section. You cannot miss it as there is a scripted meeting where my guys just ended up killing each other no matter what I did. So if the head honcho is not in his tent ? (It's more of a building isn't it ? Not confused are you ? Top left cnr near the seesaw?) and not at this meeting I don't know.

Make sure you get everything you want at the store there after you get the quest discount. Get all the xp you can and just move on. The rich half got angry with me once and I had to kill them all and apart from the kid leaving my group (He got a tad wee bit upset) there were no real repercussions.

I think there are a few too many ways of doing this quest and the story goes off in multuple directions simultaneously which was simply too confusing. It's like the branches of a tree and instead of following one branch you are growing the entire tree and trying to hop between branches constantly trying to keep track of what one is what. Too hard. Plot lost. Got over it. Killed everyone. Left.

edit - fixed my poor typing.

Last edited by stretch; Oct 21, 2014 @ 4:57pm

Tasslehoff has Wasteland 2

Oct 21, 2014 @ 5:11pm

You can pass a level 6 smart $$$ check which makes casey agree to using the spike in the construction of the railroad as a gesture of cooperation although it's quite costly at that stage in my current game.

Last edited by Tasslehoff; Oct 21, 2014 @ 5:12pm

swordfish

Oct 21, 2014 @ 5:12pm

Originally posted by Dr. Mantis Toboggan:
So i talked to everyone in rail nomad i heard both sides. I stole the golden spike and somehow they found out even though i stealthed it completely without killing anyone, thats besides the point. I went to Casey or james whatever the poorer towns leader is he is not in his tent?

Ur question is not clear, am trying to help u, I suggest to go watch the misson on youtube.

Where is he?

Hope Estheim has Wasteland 2

Oct 21, 2014 @ 7:14pm

Well when you get them to meet after talking about the deal type in the chat "both" he will suggest putting it in the tracks

Last edited by Hope Estheim; Oct 21, 2014 @ 7:14pm

Gregorovitch has Wasteland 2

Oct 21, 2014 @ 7:42pm

I've played this twice now, first time I had all sorts of trouble, the second was rediclously easy. The key to whole thing is

You must first save Ralphy, then disarm the bomb on the bicycle in the playground and then ensure then bext thing that happens is Ralphy tells Jesse to go home to Dad. What this does is stop Kekkobah imprisoning Jesse and all you have to do then is point out to Casey when you first get to Aitheson's camp that his bomb would have killed his own daughter if you hadn't disarmed it. With her safely home he will back down and agree reasonable peace terms no specail a$$ checks or anything required.

If Jesse is either killed by the bomb or captured by kekkobah it becomes muich more difficult to resolve this quest as Casey becomes much less likely to cooperate.

The easiest way to make sure Ralphy tells Jesse to go home is simply to recruit him straight away after saving him, then walk round to the playground. After a quick talk with Jesse, Ralphy will do a cut scene telling her it isn't safe in the main camp and to go home quickly.

In my first run I saved Ralphy and disarmed the bicycle bomb but I then went all round the map and didn't get to ralphy's house until well into the quest (I didn't want to recruit him or even know i could recruit him) and Jesse got captured, so Ralphy telling Jesse to go home is not guaranteed. I understand you don't have to recruit him to do this, you can just go to the playground and find him telling Jesse to go home but exactly what the conditions for this are is unclear to me. This is where it goes wrong.

In restrospect I beleive the main flaw with this quest is there are far too many ways for the whole save Jesse thing to go wrong (it did for me first time for instance) and that it is completely inobvious to the player at that point how vital that is. The unbalance is it's too difficult to save Jesse if you don'f do it exactly right, then it's either too easy if you do and too difficult if you don't.

Last edited by Gregorovitch; Oct 21, 2014 @ 7:56pm

Soundless

Oct 21, 2014 @ 8:59pm

So in my play through i didnt save her she blew up, i had already recruited ralphy, i went talked to casey told her his bomb killed jesse we talked about making peace with a compromise i went to talk to the other 1 armed guy. He said stay outta our ♥♥♥♥ i left.

I then went to the rear entrance and opened the gate and door stole the spike still got caught somehow ran to casey he was gone disappeared no where to be seen.

Gregorovitch has Wasteland 2

Oct 21, 2014 @ 9:22pm

I don't know how the whole steel the spike thing works out, sorry. Jesse blowing up is unfortunate, and like I said, it's one of those things that's all too easy to happen and subsequently makes things much harder.

I think if you have got Casey to agree to peace terms, if you talk to Kekkobah (the one-arm guy) again he will respond grudgingly, eventually. It helps if you save the bobb victim guy near the entrace using surgeon skills, save Ralphy, find the drugs lab and tell kekkobah about it and clear out the rail Thieves. I think all four may be needed to give you sufficient cred with kekkobah.

I might be tempted to retrace back to before you stole the spike. If you think about it casey's lot do the tracks and need the spike and kekkobah's lot drive the trains and need the shoe. It may be if you steel the spike and give it to Casey and find the shoe (which is possible) and give it to Kekkobah there is a solution, but it may also be that they remaijn just as angry as ever, more so, i don't know.

There is one dialog option with kekkobah that makes him more amenable to start peace talks:

In response to "Why should I make peace with Aitcheson's when they are so weak" etc, you repeat back to him his own earlier comment "It takes two strong arms to drive a train".

This quest may have been deliberately designed to easily spiral out of control. In terms of solution intervening and brokering peace gives you much cred with Vargas, walking away and leaving the status quo is nuetral, intervening and causing deaths of either tribe or both gives you black mark with Vargas. It may be the whole "steel the spike" thing is there to tempt you into reckless action in desparation and sufffer the consequences

Last edited by Gregorovitch; Oct 21, 2014 @ 9:32pm

[PUNK]Gunman has Wasteland 2

Oct 22, 2014 @ 4:20am

If you are at the meeting of the two leaders and you neither have the kid in your grp or the Kiss/Hard Ass skill high enough just remember that there can be hidden trigger words in conversations.

Nebhead

Oct 22, 2014 @ 6:29am

I made peace between the two Rail Nomad tribes last night with the description by Gregorovitch, completely by accident actually.

First I saved Ralphy, went to the park and met up with them, saw the bomb on the bycycle, disarmed it. I then went up the road, saved the guy who had been hit by a previously exploded bomb (you can't defuse it, it's allready gone off).

Then I went to Ralphy's parents house (was actually exploring the town, went into each house). They offered me him as a companion, I declined and then Ralphy went back to the park to meet Jessie again.

Went back there, and listened to their conversation, she went off.

At this point, I went all over the train yard and the surrounding environment, did all the little bits here and there, nothing major - killed junkies, wolves, toads, disarmed the large amount of land mines.

I then spoke with the one armed guy, Kekkobah, asked him all about the history of their fued, offered assistance with the Rail Thieves. He said not to get involved with the fued between the two tribes, but did so anyways. Didn't steal the Golden Spike, as I heeded his warning when we entered about not touching it.

So then went into the other camp, killed the Rail Thieves and spoke with Jessie, then the Chief of Security (forgot his name, is a companion later), and then spoke with Casey.

Enquired with him about the bombs, aswell as all the other convo options, and then pointed out that his daughter Jessie was close to being killed by one of these bombs, and which point he offered to hold talks with Kekkobah. I don't think there was any Hard Ass / Smart Ass responses, can't remember tbh. Anycase, didn't get the Brake Shoe from him.

Went back to Kekkobah, said I had dealt with the Rail Thieves, he thanked me for that, and said to him about Casey's terms for the peace deal (using the Golden Spike to connect the rail lines). Kekkobah was hasty at first, sharing the profits of the railway didn't work, nor did the other option, but the option about it takes "two strong arms" to work the train did. He said he would agree to the terms if Casey offered to remove his own left arm. And that was it, went to the ceremony and peace was declared.

On another note though, has anyone come across an Android in the Rail Nomad camp? Theres a Ranger corpse in the north by the hobo camp and one observation line that comes up says "Watch out for the Android in the hills" or something - not seen an android besides the one in the cave at the Radio Tower, is there one in the Rail Nomad camp somewhere?

Last edited by Nebhead; Oct 22, 2014 @ 6:30am