No xp for using smart-ass, kiss-ass or hard-ass skills, a few more questions inside

[Tyr]

also is there any point to having a party good with all of these speech skills ? no xp for it as far as i see (i'm at the radio tower) basicly i need to know if i should reroll, i'm playing seasoned (first time playing) and my characters just keep missing all the damn time. 37% at max to hit something ;s should i reroll ? i don't want to just plow through things, i want a challenge, but this is kinda ridicilous so i'm guessing i did something wrong with the specs. PLEASE help ! :(

[Torgan]

Yeah all the speech skills are useful, they open up more options in conversations that you would otherwise miss out on. So you can get extra quests or items. It's useful to have all three, sometimes you can use two of them but I've had quite a few where only one is available.

There's a follower you can recruit in the citadel at the start who has hard-a so no need to take that.

[꧁꧂]

引用自 Torgan：

There's a follower you can recruit in the citadel at the start who has hard-a so no need to take that.

don't rely on her too much though.... also whoever uses the speech skill gets a small xp bump. i'd reccomend spreading them across three different characters, the skill check climbs pretty quickley.

[Tyr]

okey i just figured out that by using the "kick-ass" dialouge skill on radio tower garners xp and a totally different outcome than smart-ass ! COOL ! but still, i'm getting beat the ♥♥♥♥ up by the dudes at radio tower if i challenge them... i've beat at least 4 random encounters before this one, they were much easier...something seems off :/

[꧁꧂]

mmm the group of raiders you reach if you follow the blood trail should be taken care of differently no matter which speech skill you use. I don't think it gets rid of the smaller group in the same area.

[billy]

引用自 kompany piknik：

mmm the group of raiders you reach if you follow the blood trail should be taken care of differently no matter which speech skill you use. I don't think it gets rid of the smaller group in the same area.

i know using smart ass i never had to fight any of them.

[Tyr]

smart-ass did not garner any xp, kick-ass did give me 125 xp or something (something about them being able to join the rangers, which i HOPE is a bluff) but i don't get why dafuq my characters can't hit at all (they all have good perception and that other skill for hitting etc)

引用自 kompany piknik：

mmm the group of raiders you reach if you follow the blood trail should be taken care of differently no matter which speech skill you use. I don't think it gets rid of the smaller group in the same area.

[꧁꧂]

what kind of weapon spread do you have? you probably know already but assault rifles and snipers take a huge hit to accuracy when enemies get up close.

[Tyr]

well i'm at the very beginning at the radio tower, i only have ONE character with a pistol, i can't afford more or anything else than that, also when do i get to put a point in lockpicking etc ? i could not choose it at all at the beginning (char creation) and i need to put a point in tech so somebody can fix the uplink there to listen to transmissions. (right after you reach the dude you get to use dialouge skills on...please explain to me like i'm 5 xD

引用自 kompany piknik：

what kind of weapon spread do you have? you probably know already but assault rifles and snipers take a huge hit to accuracy when enemies get up close.

[Wolfgang421]

Also perception doesn't do anyting for to-hit chance, heh. The weapon skills play a big part, as does the coordination attribute, an the quality of weapon. Also, as kompany piknik said, rifles, both assault and sniper, take a penalty for enemies being within a sqaure of them.

[꧁꧂]

引用自 Nonchelante：

i could not choose it at all at the beginning (char creation)

that's really odd. you got bugged out or the interface wasn't working correctly, but you can put points in any of the skills right from the start. and i don't know i read this corretly or not but if you've only got one character with a weapon then yeah you're gonna want to start over. as far as fixing the radio tower, it's nice for an XP boost to whoever does it but it's not necessary as far as progression goes.

[Tyr]

damn i guess i have to start over then :/ btw i am not new to CRPGS, i played lots of BG and BG2, neverwinter,dragon age etc....but i guess it explains it if it bugged out on me and i never got to put ANY points in weapons etc :/

引用自 kompany piknik：

引用自 Nonchelante：

i could not choose it at all at the beginning (char creation)

that's really odd. you got bugged out or the interface wasn't working correctly, but you can put points in any of the skills right from the start. and i don't know i read this corretly or not but if you've only got one character with a weapon then yeah you're gonna want to start over. as far as fixing the radio tower, it's nice for an XP boost to whoever does it but it's not necessary as far as progression goes.

[꧁꧂]

mmm yeah thats not right. i've noticed something, it'll probably get polised away in a following update, but if you're playing on window mode you've gotta aim the cursor a little bit above whatever it is you're trying to click. i don't know if this happens to everyone but it does for me so either go fullscreen or adjust your aim.

[dwringer]

LOL this is funny. My rangers take a Han Solo approach to justice, so as soon as the bandits were within rifle range, i opened up on them. There was no dialog at all :D

[꧁꧂]

i've always gone for the sneaky backstabbing ranger type myself: soothe them with nice words of possible employment, then ruin their ♥♥♥♥ once their backs are turned.

[Tyr]

yeah man that's exactly what i was trying to do ! no wonder i failed when i have ZERO points in weapon skills due to game bugging on me...also where is this follower at the citadel ? and also how do i get more cash ? only reason i even got a gun was because i did some random encounters before heading to radio tower, looted a pistol and sold some junk and could just afford a couple of rounds of ammo ;s ANY tips would be GREATLY appreciated...this is how i build my team btw: one will be proficiant in handguns etc, also good with some tech or lockpicking skills, then i have a designated sniper, brutal force guy, and...yeah you get my drift...a well rounded team...ANY tips please, i refuse to go to newbie difficulty xD

引用自 kompany piknik：

i've always gone for the sneaky backstabbing ranger type myself: soothe them with nice words of possible employment, then ruin their ♥♥♥♥ once their backs are turned.