Remove the forest map

[ButterLettuce]

This map is a terrible experience. Get stuck on everything, so incredibly biased towards defense with a giant open cliff combined with the terrible rock climbing.

[Eddie Girth]

definitely needs some more light or something.

[CHOPPED HOG]

Forest nap is literally my favorite map lol

[Desiire]

Put foliage to low and magically watch ALL of the grass and shrubs on the map disappear. the only thing obscuring your vision after that is the shadows. this map is broken and the game perpetuates cheating on it. but that's to be expected: the maps were not optimized to actually played on. they're UE5 store assets to be used as a template and they aren't even remotely designed for functioning competitive PVP. maps like the house seem like a good idea on paper but play the bomb mode long enough and you'll see people either throwing the bomb in the basement which is unbreachable or throwing it on the roof which is also unbreachable because both only have one entry point and they can be camped to oblivion. 3 lanes? non-existent

[Monk]

Originally posted by Smokey:

Originally posted by Monk:

Meh, I found it fine sneaking about and getting kills, but I'm on a high end rig with everything maxed, might be very different on lower settings.

im on a 4090 and 7800x3d, the visuals on that map are terrible. The shadows are pitch black and blurry as all hell

Yeah, it's dark in a forest, just like in reality, I didn't find it blurry though and was able to hunt people down just fine by watching gir movement and sticking to the shadows, the way you woukd ijn a real forest.

Originally posted by Desiire:

Put foliage to low and magically watch ALL of the grass and shrubs on the map disappear. the only thing obscuring your vision after that is the shadows. this map is broken and the game perpetuates cheating on it. but that's to be expected: the maps were not optimized to actually played on. they're UE5 store assets to be used as a template and they aren't even remotely designed for functioning competitive PVP. maps like the house seem like a good idea on paper but play the bomb mode long enough and you'll see people either throwing the bomb in the basement which is unbreachable or throwing it on the roof which is also unbreachable because both only have one entry point and they can be camped to oblivion. 3 lanes? non-existent

Oh dear god, if foliage vanishes at lower settings, that is a monstrous oversight.

I enjoyed the game and it ran well, but I refunded it as overall, it felt like it was a bit too early and figured I'd wait and see how it developed, stuff like this makes me think I made the right choice.

[Smokey]

Originally posted by Monk:

Originally posted by Smokey:

im on a 4090 and 7800x3d, the visuals on that map are terrible. The shadows are pitch black and blurry as all hell

Yeah, it's dark in a forest, just like in reality, I didn't find it blurry though and was able to hunt people down just fine by watching gir movement and sticking to the shadows, the way you woukd ijn a real forest.

Originally posted by Desiire:

Put foliage to low and magically watch ALL of the grass and shrubs on the map disappear. the only thing obscuring your vision after that is the shadows. this map is broken and the game perpetuates cheating on it. but that's to be expected: the maps were not optimized to actually played on. they're UE5 store assets to be used as a template and they aren't even remotely designed for functioning competitive PVP. maps like the house seem like a good idea on paper but play the bomb mode long enough and you'll see people either throwing the bomb in the basement which is unbreachable or throwing it on the roof which is also unbreachable because both only have one entry point and they can be camped to oblivion. 3 lanes? non-existent

Oh dear god, if foliage vanishes at lower settings, that is a monstrous oversight.

I enjoyed the game and it ran well, but I refunded it as overall, it felt like it was a bit too early and figured I'd wait and see how it developed, stuff like this makes me think I made the right choice.

....Wtf forests are you going into that are that dark during the day? I live in Alaska, im in forests daily lol. Even in the thickest forests its not getting this dark, not even close.

[0hnoM]

Originally posted by Smokey:

Originally posted by Monk:

Meh, I found it fine sneaking about and getting kills, but I'm on a high end rig with everything maxed, might be very different on lower settings.

im on a 4090 and 7800x3d, the visuals on that map are terrible. The shadows are pitch black and blurry as all hell

Shadows are supposed to be pitch black.

[Smokey]

Originally posted by Mars:

Originally posted by Smokey:

im on a 4090 and 7800x3d, the visuals on that map are terrible. The shadows are pitch black and blurry as all hell

Shadows are supposed to be pitch black.

.....no, no they are not. This is why most games have ambient occlusion as a setting. Light bounces, just because a shadow is cast there does not mean its pitch black.

[Fretty]

id say keep the forest map but add like ancient ruins like walls and statues

[0hnoM]

Originally posted by Smokey:

Originally posted by Mars:

Shadows are supposed to be pitch black.

.....no, no they are not. This is why most games have ambient occlusion as a setting. Light bounces, just because a shadow is cast there does not mean its pitch black.

So you are saying there isn't supposed to be a contrast between light and dark?

have you ever walked into a dark tunnel or left one? Can you see into it from the outside or better yet, out of it, from the dark inside?

You can't most times but it depends on the position of the sun. You will almost never be able to see inside and only if the conditions are right, the sun is above and not in front of the opening, will you be able to see out, from the inside of the dark tunnel.

This is how it works, your retinas aren't instant, they need time to adjust and I think the devs did a great job with this. You are just mad cause you are impatient and want to run around and CoD this game.

[0hnoM]

Originally posted by Fretty:

id say keep the forest map but add like ancient ruins like walls and statues

Yeah, it definitely needs some structures.

[Dean Winchester]

Originally posted by Fretty:

id say keep the forest map but add like ancient ruins like walls and statues

I think same, they should reduce the trees and add some structures.

[Smokey]

Originally posted by Mars:

Originally posted by Smokey:

.....no, no they are not. This is why most games have ambient occlusion as a setting. Light bounces, just because a shadow is cast there does not mean its pitch black.

So you are saying there isn't supposed to be a contrast between light and dark?

have you ever walked into a dark tunnel or left one? Can you see into it from the outside or better yet, out of it, from the dark inside?

You can't most times but it depends on the position of the sun. You will almost never be able to see inside and only if the conditions are right, the sun is above and not in front of the opening, will you be able to see out, from the inside of the dark tunnel.

This is how it works, your retinas aren't instant, they need time to adjust and I think the devs did a great job with this. You are just mad cause you are impatient and want to run around and CoD this game.

Yes, i can see into the tunnel from the outside. Can i see deep into it? no. Is a shadow under a tree nearly the same as a tunnel? No. Are your retina adjusting to a shadow in the distance? No. Shadows under trees and in forests are not pitch black, not even close.

[Monk]

Originally posted by Smokey:

Originally posted by Monk:

Yeah, it's dark in a forest, just like in reality, I didn't find it blurry though and was able to hunt people down just fine by watching gir movement and sticking to the shadows, the way you woukd ijn a real forest.





Oh dear god, if foliage vanishes at lower settings, that is a monstrous oversight.

I enjoyed the game and it ran well, but I refunded it as overall, it felt like it was a bit too early and figured I'd wait and see how it developed, stuff like this makes me think I made the right choice.

....Wtf forests are you going into that are that dark during the day? I live in Alaska, im in forests daily lol. Even in the thickest forests its not getting this dark, not even close.

At dusk, overcast-ish, which, is the time the map seems to be mostly for me, in thick cover, yeah, it can get very dark in places, likewise in other parts it's fairly well lit, oddly, like the map, if it's all in pure darkness, id say your settings are off.

Yes, it could use some tweaking, but, it also encourages the risk vs reward of using the flash light.

[Smokey]

Originally posted by Monk:

Originally posted by Smokey:

....Wtf forests are you going into that are that dark during the day? I live in Alaska, im in forests daily lol. Even in the thickest forests its not getting this dark, not even close.

At dusk, overcast-ish, which, is the time the map seems to be mostly for me, in thick cover, yeah, it can get very dark in places, likewise in other parts it's fairly well lit, oddly, like the map, if it's all in pure darkness, id say your settings are off.

Yes, it could use some tweaking, but, it also encourages the risk vs reward of using the flash light.

Looks to be mid day to me. The maps not entirely dark, its actually pretty bright. Like youre saying, its just overly dark in thick cover. When looking at areas like that from a distance or even walking through them it just breaks my immersion, its way too dark. Sons of the forest did an amazing job with their forest...as they should lol. Light bleeds through leafs, branches, refracts, reflects but in this game we just get crazy dark, full coverage shadows.

[559]

I like the map. Its like hunters and runners but in real life. Reminds me of my childhood running through the woods.