New to CS; why do people always use the same guns?

[Yn Crashout]

Hi. Long story short I'm looking to get into PC gaming maybe later this year or early next year, and the thing that off puts me is I really like shooters (particularly those w/ lots of teamwork but mostly all of em) and the PC is a different beast because you can be so much more precise and the games are generally a lot better (I'm gona miss tactile controller feedback though! do they have mouses taht rumble with recoil or somethin?). Anyways, in CS, why is it always an M4/AK fest? Or is it designed so that you kinda... you 'upgrade' weapons with rounds and then get the iconic CT/T weapons? What is the purpose of the other weapons? I personally have a philosophy about FPS games that no weapon should suck in every player's eyes. Prime example, COD4 skorpion; pretty much nobody, even casual gamers, used that gun. I think that every gun should be a good number of people's favorites so that there's lots of variety on the map. I guess it doesn't bother me too much but I'd like to see a little more than AK/M4/DEAGLE/AWP. In comparing consoles and PC in terms of player behavior, how does the PC community behave in terms of weapon variety across shooters? I've seen BAttelfield 3 videos that play much differently on PC in terms of weapon handling because one, you're more precise with mouse, and you can really spray for longer because you can control recoil with the mouse a whole lot better.

[Poppi !!]

I agree with you Bored. Lifelong PC only player here. I've been gaming a long time and as with any other game, we all have personal preferances. Me, I love pistols ( detest the AWP ).and as a predominant DM player ( dependin on the server ), I always select a random wepons load-out every time because I enjoy the variety and constantly switching up weapon based tactics.

Many others go with the philosophy that the most powerful weapons are the best regardless and they're easy to spot, but hey man, whatever - each to his own out there. I always get to them too ;) It's only gaming after all. Enjoy !

[CrouchSoft]

It depends what you play. In deathmatch your get a fair spread of guns. Competitively you will see mainly just AK/M4/DEAGLE/AWP, purely since most the other guns just can't compete. I don't mind using TMP/MAC10/P90 if I feel like rushing.

[Mr Waffles]

The entire series is dominated by the AK-47/M4/AWP and Desert Eagle (except in CS:GO, deagle is much less powerful in it) because they're simply the most effective guns. Sure you can get the FAMAS/ Galil/MP5 here and there but overall most players will use the typical guns especially in clan matches.

[LowBattMouse]

like you said:"because you can be so much more precise". thats why. but when i play only for fun/drunk i use all the weapons. tmp, usp, scout, even m249. but when you care about your team and its job or your own scores you have to use ak/colt/deagle/awp. but i still prefer usp over deagle but im weird..

[The Bottom Fragger]

when you start to play cs source u will understand lol

[awave]

the economy in cs in all forms is incredibly important. in competitive play (16 rounds to win) it generally goes like this:

you start with $800 so here are the basics
(keep in mind that most guns, from medium to close range, are a 1-shot headshot kill if the enemy has no head armor. but head armor can change that to up to 3 headshot hits for a kill with some guns. this also being a reason why certain guns are preferred, depending on round and what the opposing team is predicted to buy-armor and whatnot.) :

1st round is pistol round-you can choose to either upgrade to a better pistol, buy body armor, buy a combination of nades, buy a kit if youre ct or full save.

2nd round is the smg round. if you WON the first round, most will buy an mp5, but depending on side (ct or t) and how much $ was spent the first round, you can also choose the tmp, galil, or famas (clarion) or even a scout or p90 (very underrated gun), or any other smg, and a combination of nades and armor. if you LOST the first round, you can either deag save, full save, or make a kit or nade purchase or two while (mostly) saving. if youre really brave (or stupid) you can counter-buy an smg. but if you die youll likely be broke or near-broke for 'gun round'.

3rd round will depend on if you won both, lost both, or split the first two rounds and whether you survived and how your economy stands, but generally you'll also save this round unless youre the winning team, or light buy (deag/armor/nades of some kind).

4th round is gun round, the full-buy round. by this round you should have enough $ to afford either an awp or rifle of some kind (normally the m4 or ak) along with the pistol of your choice (usually a deag if youre an awper) and a good amount of nades and full armor. the p90 can also be useful this round if youre playing an aggressive close-quarters position.

after 4th round, the way you buy depends on your team's economy and your round wins and losses. generally youll want to buy along with your team, and (with exceptions) not do too much force-buying, to keep your economy strong.

so anyway, as you can see. more than 3-4 guns are useful in competitive play but certain guns are more useful on gun rounds (full-buy rounds). in pubs where a lot of the time you have $16k to work with each round, and in CSS where dust2 is the preferred map on what seems like 50% of servers, certain guns are more powerful and/or accurate and preferred over others (deag, m4, ak, awp). hope this helps.

[condom gaming]

Originally posted by CrouchSoft:

It depends what you play. In deathmatch your get a fair spread of guns. Competitively you will see mainly just AK/M4/DEAGLE/AWP, purely since most the other guns just can't compete. I don't mind using TMP/MAC10/P90 if I feel like rushing.

cant even see anything but AK/M4/DEAGLE/AWP in death match now, that is how much i hate these ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ guns. I do not get killed by anything but these four ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, and personally hate using them , but yes. Unfortunately most weapons cant compete unless you are really good with them ;(

[Favkis Nexerade]

This community has players that plays 90% of their play time on dust 2 map for 17 years in a row. This balance is made by valve, cause valve thinks that players are too dumb to choose. That's why there is F1 button and that's why there are dominating weapons. When they bought CS from indie devs - they made it ♥♥♥♥ with this kinda balance. Balance in cs sucks cause it was remade by developers of half life, and in half life there are ♥♥♥♥ weapons and good weapons, just like in cs.

[LowBattMouse]

lol.. why exactly are you guys posting in 3,5 years old thread? just start a new one. but yeah i miss css and tmp. i played with it a lot..

[ARGH!!]

The guns have been like that from the start and when they fixed some of them like the auto sniper the noob server owners restricted them same as the awp.

There was time when the more people bought a gun the price went up. CS weapon market or something it was called.
It was great as it meant rubbish but fun guns became dirt cheap along with nightvision.

Once again the brats spoiled it by crying lots even though server owners could switch it off.


THEN whoever was in charge of updating CSS went and made changes that messed up shotguns so you no longer can jump and shoot straight with them.

fecking idiots......

[ARGH!!]

and thats another thing that bugged me is that the shotguns fire too slow.

Here's someone whos good at shooting fairly fast.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrkX2MuVQgo

[väärällään]

In TDM just use Nova or autosnipers. They piss people off! :D:csgoanarchist:

[CITIZEN KANE]

i use shotguns and smgs