cave loot nerf or bug?

[Rua]

Playing on my singleplayer, i test a few caves, reloging and going at different times multiple times

x5 Central Cave 0 loot
x3 North East 0 loot
x3 Lower South Cave 0 loot
x1 Swamp Cave 1 blue loot

is this normal? the artifacts always spawn but only 1 loot out of 12 cave runs with multiple relogs in each

also wanted to ask if its normal that bee hives take incredible long to produce honey? is it normal was it nerf? thanks

[Andros]

The cave drops are not normal you are guaranteed at least a couple spawns per cave

[SpeedFreak3]

When you start a session about every 15 - 20 minutes a cave crate spawns until the maximum number for a specific cave is reached.

So heading into a cave immediately after a server restart or in your case a relog in singleplayer results in zero loot.

Most caves on The Island can hold up to three loot crates, so it will take up to an hour untill all of them are present.

Beehives need about an hour per honey.

[wildbill]

Originally posted by SpeedFreak3:

When you start a session about every 15 - 20 minutes a cave crate spawns until the maximum number for a specific cave is reached.

So heading into a cave immediately after a server restart or in your case a relog in singleplayer results in zero loot.

Most caves on The Island can hold up to three loot crates, so it will take up to an hour untill all of them are present.

Beehives need about an hour per honey.

Ya, sounds like Single Player. Best thing you can do in Single Player is boost all the rates, otherwise it just takes way too long to get anything done. Normal server play, stuff keeps occurring when you log off, so you just come back the next day to a decent amount of honey. In Single player coming back the next day is as if no time has passed since your last play session.

[Rua]

Originally posted by SpeedFreak3:

When you start a session about every 15 - 20 minutes a cave crate spawns until the maximum number for a specific cave is reached.

So heading into a cave immediately after a server restart or in your case a relog in singleplayer results in zero loot.

Most caves on The Island can hold up to three loot crates, so it will take up to an hour untill all of them are present.

Beehives need about an hour per honey.

Iv been playing in that singleplayer for days, i just check some of the other caves

Snow cave 0 loot
Upper South cave 0 loot
Lava Cave 0 loot

so far out of 14 caves i found 1 loot in the swamp cave only...and no settings seem to help, my caves have no loot, just the artifacts

[wildbill]

Originally posted by Rua:

Originally posted by SpeedFreak3:

When you start a session about every 15 - 20 minutes a cave crate spawns until the maximum number for a specific cave is reached.

So heading into a cave immediately after a server restart or in your case a relog in singleplayer results in zero loot.

Most caves on The Island can hold up to three loot crates, so it will take up to an hour untill all of them are present.

Beehives need about an hour per honey.

Iv been playing in that singleplayer for days, i just check some of the other caves

Snow cave 0 loot
Upper South cave 0 loot
Lava Cave 0 loot

so far out of 14 caves i found 1 loot in the swamp cave only...and no settings seem to help, my caves have no loot, just the artifacts

So to be clear, Single Player play time is measured in hours, not days. It is how many hours you have played that respawns the loot.

Also there is this concept of loading in a section of the map to make spawns happen. In SP, you often have to go to an area and leave it and then come back 15 minutes to an hour later to actually see spawns occur. Personally I find Single Player too annoying to play because of this, but other reasons. So I don't play SP, partly because it is just plain buggier than server play, but also I prefer seeing other players in game and not being my own admin.

Saying that, there could be a legit bug here, although I have no idea what the problem might be.

[SpeedFreak3]

when you close down your singleplayer session, all loot crates are wiped and need to respawn.
So you would have to wait for at least 20 minutes from starting to play to even be able to encounter one drop.
My further theory is that for cave loot to even be able to spawn in singleplayer you would need to be inside the cave for the amount of time it needs to respawn that loot.

Worst case scenario is that you would need to stand idle in a cave entrance for almost an hour to get up to three loot crates.

That system hasn't changed since the release of A:SE and is a prime example of why everyone should try to play on a server even if hosted on the same computer.

[MyLøvelyStär]

Originally posted by wildbill:

Originally posted by SpeedFreak3:

When you start a session about every 15 - 20 minutes a cave crate spawns until the maximum number for a specific cave is reached.

So heading into a cave immediately after a server restart or in your case a relog in singleplayer results in zero loot.

Most caves on The Island can hold up to three loot crates, so it will take up to an hour untill all of them are present.

Beehives need about an hour per honey.

Ya, sounds like Single Player. Best thing you can do in Single Player is boost all the rates, otherwise it just takes way too long to get anything done. Normal server play, stuff keeps occurring when you log off, so you just come back the next day to a decent amount of honey. In Single player coming back the next day is as if no time has passed since your last play session.

Exactly this. This guy gets it.

[Rua]

I know what he meant i was talking about "in game days" or totalplaytime, i saw a lot of people saying restarting made the drops appear is why i tried ,but i also suspected that it was gated to session time and probably a certain number of drops at the time, ill try with 20min+ session later, but im pretty sure i had over 30min sessions in some of that testing, i don't think theres a setting i can boost to get the cave loot respawn faster tho

[SpeedFreak3]

If you have at least 16 GB of Ram you should be able to host your own server session on the same PC you are playing the game with.

It would be a little step each time before you want to play to update and start the server, but you can avoid a plethora of issues, that are exclusive to singleplayer.

By now, there are multiple server manager programs out there to choose and if you play strictly alone, there isn't even a need to fiddle around with port forwarding and stuff like that.

I highly recommend everyone that can, to go that route.