Performance update..... When?

[ATM_Reaper]

So all they will say is summer release of a massive update to performance but no indication of when. I have a pretty decent rig and still have to run on medium settings and disable clouds to be able to run it even remotely well. This isn't just needed for aesthetics but for basic functionality so come on devs give us a timeline.

[Corbae]

I think you are going to need a better then decent rig to play on higher settings. Optimisation is not a magic trick.

[Dradiin]

1. Devs dont read Steam forums.
2. Devs don't care what the players want/need to play the game.
3. Performance update will be a paid for update for only $19.99.

[ATM_Reaper]

Originally posted by Corbae:

I think you are going to need a better then decent rig to play on higher settings. Optimisation is not a magic trick.

While optimisation is not a 'magic trick' as you put it, upgrading from a serialised use of CPU cores to a parrallel'd use offers a lot of scope for performance enhancement so while it may not be a magic trick, it is a feasible route to performance enhancement which could render the game playable on a lot more rigs and for those who can already run it, it would then offer feasible scope to increase settings.

[DrunkenOrca]

I dont get. Do they officialy tell that there will be some optizations or what?

[Spawn of Fenrir]

Originally posted by Corbae:

I think you are going to need a better then decent rig to play on higher settings. Optimisation is not a magic trick.

I wouldn't describe my rig as "better than decent" (Ryzen 5 3600, 32GB DDR4, RTX 4060 TI 16GB)
I'm able to run tweaked high settings at 1440P with no need to disable clouds or fog with a constant 60+ FPS.
DLSS 3 with Frame Gen is the key.
A card with a decent amount of VRAM also helps. At these settings, mine allocates around 12.5GB and uses 10GB of that, so a 12GB card will probably be the minimum for running anything over medium settings well.

Optimization definitely isn't a magic trick, but it does help, it sure helped alot with ASE over the years, you can pretty much run that with integrated graphics now, and that was FAR from the case when it released in early access. Hopefully the update also enables built in support for FSR and AMDs version of Frame Gen, this would not only improve things for Radeon cards, but RTX 30 series cards as well.

[Spawn of Fenrir]

Originally posted by DrunkenOrca:

I dont get. Do they officialy tell that there will be some optizations or what?

Getting a minor engine upgrade to Unreal Engine 5.4, it is happening officially, don't ask me to find the announcement though, lol

[DrunkenOrca]

Ohh... that one. Well, noone who used 5.4 on their existing projects does not confirmed any performance boost, so relax, nothing will change) Some ppl even reported fps degradation in comparsion of 5.3 to 5.4.

[ATM_Reaper]

Originally posted by Spawn of Fenrir:

Originally posted by Corbae:

I think you are going to need a better then decent rig to play on higher settings. Optimisation is not a magic trick.

I wouldn't describe my rig as "better than decent" (Ryzen 5 3600, 32GB DDR4, RTX 4060 TI 16GB)
I'm able to run tweaked high settings at 1440P with no need to disable clouds or fog with a constant 60+ FPS.
DLSS 3 with Frame Gen is the key.
A card with a decent amount of VRAM also helps. At these settings, mine allocates around 12.5GB and uses 10GB of that, so a 12GB card will probably be the minimum for running anything over medium settings well.

Optimization definitely isn't a magic trick, but it does help, it sure helped alot with ASE over the years, you can pretty much run that with integrated graphics now, and that was FAR from the case when it released in early access. Hopefully the update also enables built in support for FSR and AMDs version of Frame Gen, this would not only improve things for Radeon cards, but RTX 30 series cards as well.

Well my rig is a Ryzen 5950x 16 core (32 CPU's), RTX 3090 24GB with 64GB DDR4 3200 RAM so not what I would call top end but also not a sloth and I have to use high/medium with clouds off to avoid crashes. A parallelisation update on the face of it would seem to be of great interest to my rig.

[Spawn of Fenrir]

Originally posted by ATM_Reaper:

Originally posted by Spawn of Fenrir:

I wouldn't describe my rig as "better than decent" (Ryzen 5 3600, 32GB DDR4, RTX 4060 TI 16GB)
I'm able to run tweaked high settings at 1440P with no need to disable clouds or fog with a constant 60+ FPS.
DLSS 3 with Frame Gen is the key.
A card with a decent amount of VRAM also helps. At these settings, mine allocates around 12.5GB and uses 10GB of that, so a 12GB card will probably be the minimum for running anything over medium settings well.

Optimization definitely isn't a magic trick, but it does help, it sure helped alot with ASE over the years, you can pretty much run that with integrated graphics now, and that was FAR from the case when it released in early access. Hopefully the update also enables built in support for FSR and AMDs version of Frame Gen, this would not only improve things for Radeon cards, but RTX 30 series cards as well.

Well my rig is a Ryzen 5950x 16 core (32 CPU's), RTX 3090 24GB with 64GB DDR4 3200 RAM so not what I would call top end but also not a sloth and I have to use high/medium with clouds off to avoid crashes. A parallelisation update on the face of it would seem to be of great interest to my rig.

Yeah, I wouldn't think there's anyway possible you're going over your VRAM buffer or your System RAM..... I'm starting to get the impression that ASA for some reason just has something against 30 series cards(reading about others with 30 series cards crashing)...... I have yet to experience a crash that I would describe as anything settings related even with my old RX 5700 GPU. The only crash I've ever experienced was from an inventory dump that for whatever reason the game just didn't like on that particular occasion. But then again I have seen a few posts where 40 series cards are crashing too, so I have no idea why some seem to be immune and why some are crashing every 5 seconds.

[DrunkenOrca]

Originally posted by Spawn of Fenrir:

I have no idea why some seem to be immune and why some are crashing every 5 seconds.

Because of their system stablility. Some got wrongly overclocked CPUs, or RAM, or GPU or even faulty PCU. Others got totally dead OS. And mostly ppl think if they run UserBenchmark then their system are stable, or if they run some other game. Most of them wont stand 1 min in OCCT just because its not a performance benchmark but a stress test benchmark. Also it could be ugly drivers (idm Nvidia, their drivers are awesome actually) that affects system io latency and so on. Aaaannnndd... many ppl trying every solution in range never thinking what they are doing, then forgeting about changes they made and viola, we got ♥♥♥♥♥♥ OS/HW.

As example, some guy posted he got crashes (GPU_HANG) and what answer he get?

Originally posted by Stabby:

Hit the tilde key and paste this:
r.VolumetricFog 0 | r.Nanite.MaxPixelsPerEdge 2 | r.DistanceFieldShadowing 1 | r.Shadow.Virtual.Enable 0 | r.Shadow.CSM.MaxCascades 0 | r.ContactShadows 0 | r.SkylightIntensityMultiplier 3 | r.VolumetricSky 0 | r.VolumetricCloud 0 | r.Grass.SizeScale 0.2

So instead of finding problems root someone recommeds to just ruin ingame graphics.
And when TS solve his problem (i hope) he would ask "why game looks like ♥♥♥♥?"
Same goes to BIOS changes, OC settings, Registry, Driver versions and so on.

Btw, i912KF OC, 4080OC, separate NVME for ARK, everything possible is asus rog series. And... no crashes (got inventory crash, and few random at some eraly point).
And laptop with i9 (dont remember what exactly), 4090 rog. Fine too.

[Bloodinfested]

There's so many techniques in optimization both in and outside of a game engine granted unreal is a huge learning curve vs others but at this point it's extremely clear that the dev team is incapable. I was a little shocked when they released new areas that the level design wasn't even complete this is one of the easiest things to do in unreal and they can even get that right. Sorry for the bad news.

[Skippy_Azuremoney]

it seems silly to me to purchase a rehashed version of a game with updated graphics only to have to lower my graphics settings to make it playable. My system has a 7950x3d, an rtx 4090, and 64gb of ddr5 6800mhz. im not experiencing crashes, but 20-30fps with everything maxed out should not be a thing at all. i had high hopes for this, but considering it took them years to optimize the last version of ark to be in a playable state, I dont know why i should have expected anything more.

[DrunkenOrca]

Originally posted by Skippy_Azuremoney:

it seems silly to me to purchase a rehashed version of a game with updated graphics only to have to lower my graphics settings to make it playable. My system has a 7950x3d, an rtx 4090, and 64gb of ddr5 6800mhz. im not experiencing crashes, but 20-30fps with everything maxed out should not be a thing at all. i had high hopes for this, but considering it took them years to optimize the last version of ark to be in a playable state, I dont know why i should have expected anything more.

20-30fps on 4090!? lol
60-120 on 4080 all settings maxed, all on epic, no ♥♥♥♥♥♥ fixes applied. +/- Same on 4090M.

[Corbae]

Originally posted by Skippy_Azuremoney:

it seems silly to me to purchase a rehashed version of a game with updated graphics only to have to lower my graphics settings to make it playable. My system has a 7950x3d, an rtx 4090, and 64gb of ddr5 6800mhz. im not experiencing crashes, but 20-30fps with everything maxed out should not be a thing at all. i had high hopes for this, but considering it took them years to optimize the last version of ark to be in a playable state, I dont know why i should have expected anything more.

4070ti 13700kf 32g ram and I run fully maxed out at 1440 and it is fine. You would not have to lower your settings.

[Average mid]

Originally posted by Dradiin:

1. Devs dont read Steam forums.
2. Devs don't care what the players want/need to play the game.
3. Performance update will be a paid for update for only $19.99.

Lol they don't read their official forums either, nobody does.