Why are more players playing Evolved?

[MisterRobot]

This is not a question to winde anyone up,. I'm curious, I played Ark Survival Evolved from beta and had some of my best gaming experiences of my whole life in that.. I have been working away a lot and only played Ascended for a week when it launched and it was buggy as hell.

I was just looking at the numbers and there are more right now playing Evolved, why is that?

[𝓝𝓪𝓬𝓱𝓸𝓫𝓸𝓲]

More content, better mods, better optics around the game, doesn't require NASA PC or huge amount of console commands to run.

ASA sometimes gets above ASE. If ASE still had official, ASA wouldn't even be close to ASE.

We'll most likely see a major flip when Aberration comes out in "September" or when better community maps come out like Rag.

[Benna]

Many of the Devs' choices made a lot of the older players not want to play the new one, like for example bob's tall tales and fantastic tames being pay to win for PVP. The game is also very unbalanced like the cave drops always giving awesome loot so its infinitely easier to get very good saddles therefore everyone on PVP will have them and they wont be as special or how dinos on ASA don't count movement speed when they get the tame lvls so they get some stats that would seem crazy for an ASE player which makes boss fights a lot easier. A lot of people didn't like the movement speed change either so it could be a factor as well. Could also be because ASA just doesn't have that many maps/dinos and is more boring in that way. Some just don't play it because they didn't want to spend $45 on the same game or because their Systems can't run it outright

[MisterRobot]

ok thanks, I've got a new PC that can run Ascended fine (and it does look gorgeous) but I always used to play Evolved on the unofficial servers towards the end and I loved it.

Had a massive ARK nostalgia of late and trying to work out which one to play....

[Herr Morlock]

Originally posted by Benna:

l or how dinos on ASA don't count movement speed when they get the tame lvls so they get some stats that would seem crazy for an ASE player which makes boss fights a lot easier.

Can you elaborate more on that topic or give as an (e.g.) YT-link which handles that topic, because this is completely new to me.
It isn't around the leveling of flyers, it it? Because officially, that was already deactivated when ASE hit public, wasn't it?

[Benna]

Originally posted by Herr Morlock:

Originally posted by Benna:

l or how dinos on ASA don't count movement speed when they get the tame lvls so they get some stats that would seem crazy for an ASE player which makes boss fights a lot easier.

Can you elaborate more on that topic or give as an (e.g.) YT-link which handles that topic, because this is completely new to me.
It isn't around the leveling of flyers, it it? Because officially, that was already deactivated when ASE hit public, wasn't it?

They just removed the Speed stat from the random lvls the dino gets before and after taming so it has been removed from the dino Spawning lvls roll and the extra 74 for a perfect tame will now be distributed to hp/stam/weight/oxygen/food/melee so its split into 6 instead of 7 getting those stats a lot higher, on ASE the dinos rolled the movement speed as well and got nothing for it but it was balanced because the dinos weren't that weak. Also i think on ASA any dino that doesnt use Oxygen so water tames literally dont roll oxygen either so its split to 5 instead of 7 and they get some crazy stats, i remember taming a 110 dunkleo that came out with 47 melee that would be 1 in a billion in ASE. Far as i know fliers still use oxygen so they aren't as bad as water tames but still

[Herr Morlock]

Originally posted by Benna:

Originally posted by Herr Morlock:

Can you elaborate more on that topic or give as an (e.g.) YT-link which handles that topic, because this is completely new to me.
It isn't around the leveling of flyers, it it? Because officially, that was already deactivated when ASE hit public, wasn't it?

They just removed the Speed stat from the random lvls the dino gets before and after taming so it has been removed from the dino Spawning lvls roll and the extra 74 for a perfect tame will now be distributed to hp/stam/weight/oxygen/food/melee so its split into 6 instead of 7 getting those stats a lot higher, on ASE the dinos rolled the movement speed as well and got nothing for it but it was balanced because the dinos weren't that weak. Also i think on ASA any dino that doesnt use Oxygen so water tames literally dont roll oxygen either so its split to 5 instead of 7 and they get some crazy stats, i remember taming a 110 dunkleo that came out with 47 melee that would be 1 in a billion in ASE. Far as i know fliers still use oxygen so they aren't as bad as water tames but still

Ah, so they removed those completely idiotic level-ups into skills which were no use to a certain type of dino (like oxygen for flyers), meaning that the levels of wild dinos are more potent in ASA, then they were back in the days of ASE, which makes them comparably "overpowered" in ASA...
I think I understand now, thanks for your deeper informations !

[Veeshan]

There's plenty of possibilities but I think ultimately it's the performance. Low FPS is one thing but Rock Bottom FPS and crashing is another. Just like early in evolved.

[FallenShaw]

FPS wont increase till players get better rigs, the worlds econ is ♥♥♥♥, so this will take longer, ultimately ASA will fully replace ASE, but we are prob 2 years from that. Ark 2, since they are making it "SOULS LIKE" AND REPLACING CORE MECHANICS, will prob be replaced by ASA as well. Why does ASA beat the rest? Simply put, its ASE WITH BETTER GRAPHICS AND BABYS AS WELL AS SOME NEW SCORTCHED EARTH CONTENT

[PMA]

Because WildTards decided to use Unreal Engine 5 and on top of that they did not optimize the game while the majority of steam users still own 30 series cards...

The game is not optimized whatsoever...

You need 4070+ to be able to play

[[H][E][X]]

Originally posted by Be Friendly & PMA <3:

Because WildTards decided to use Unreal Engine 5 and on top of that they did not optimize the game while the majority of steam users still own 30 series cards...

The game is not optimized whatsoever...

You need 4070+ to be able to play

3070, I get 110 FPS, Idk what you're yapping about

[DarkHalls]

Because most people have below average pc specs.
Steam charth proves it.
People refuse to give up on their 1070/1080's for some reason

[ProperCharva]

Originally posted by DarkHalls:

Because most people have below average pc specs.
Steam charth proves it.
People refuse to give up on their 1070/1080's for some reason

their lack of optimization has drove people like that away I have a 6700 xt and cant even get 60fps on low at 1440p the fact you support them for it is very funny

[Captain Pansy]

you neeed a very good PC to play the new one.

[nas360]

Originally posted by Hehe:

Originally posted by Be Friendly & PMA <3:

Because WildTards decided to use Unreal Engine 5 and on top of that they did not optimize the game while the majority of steam users still own 30 series cards...

The game is not optimized whatsoever...

You need 4070+ to be able to play

3070, I get 110 FPS, Idk what you're yapping about

No you don't unless you turned everything down to low. Even a 3080 barely gets 40fps at High.

[K@#Ø%!]

Originally posted by nas360:

Originally posted by Hehe:

3070, I get 110 FPS, Idk what you're yapping about

No you don't unless you turned everything down to low. Even a 3080 barely gets 40fps at High.

3070 here r5 5600g 16gb ram, i get 100-200fps @ high/epic settings frame gen on