4070, ryzen 5 7600X, game at lowest graphics still unplayable

[Mumble]

What do I even do now? I keep getting stutters, nothing works.
I respawned, stutters continued, put all graphics to the lowest, stutters continued.
I can't even record it cuz the stutters turn off the recording???
I wish I could refund it, but after 10 hours and several months of waiting for that awful company to optimize it I can't.
If anyone has a solution aside from uninstalling then please do so.

[Cillic]

lol 7800X3D is garbage 7800X is so much better

[Galbi3000]

Originally posted by Ave:

*Edit* Please keep in mind that ASA is just ASE copy pasted in unreal 5.2 with very limited amount of work done.

Incorrect. There are plenty of changes, not all good, that show this is not just a conversion to UE5. For example, the introduction of wireless electricity that is a poor downgrade to avoid having to program the wires. If it was a port from UE4 to UE5 then why remove stuff like the wires or indoors lights?

[Steel]

Originally posted by Mumble:

What do I even do now? I keep getting stutters, nothing works.
I respawned, stutters continued, put all graphics to the lowest, stutters continued.
I can't even record it cuz the stutters turn off the recording???
I wish I could refund it, but after 10 hours and several months of waiting for that awful company to optimize it I can't.
If anyone has a solution aside from uninstalling then please do so.

if you have freezes and jerks, then this is a problem with shader compilation. The ♥♥♥♥♥♥ u5.2 will compile them every time you enter the game, which leads to periodic jerks when you move to a new zone or location. And this happens quite often. Turn on shader compilation in the nvidia driver, in general it should be turned on by default. Yes, when you first enter the game you will have jerks, but when you explore the map, when visiting the same places, there will be no more jerks and freezes. Turn on frame generation, it gives an increase in fps almost 2 times

[Steel]

Originally posted by Galbi3000:

Originally posted by Ave:

*Edit* Please keep in mind that ASA is just ASE copy pasted in unreal 5.2 with very limited amount of work done.

Incorrect. There are plenty of changes, not all good, that show this is not just a conversion to UE5. For example, the introduction of wireless electricity that is a poor downgrade to avoid having to program the wires. If it was a port from UE4 to UE5 then why remove stuff like the wires or indoors lights?

wires made your house ugly, the wireless method simplifies the layout, but makes your house more beautiful inside. For servers, this will eliminate the problem of pulling wires to the turrets, which unmasks the position of the generator, and as a result, it is blown up and all protection is disabled

[Steel]

Originally posted by Cillic:

lol 7800X3D is garbage 7800X is so much better

the processor is not of key importance for this game. Of my 10 cores 10900kf only 2 are used, while the video card 3090 Ti is constantly loaded at 99%. Changing the processor to a more productive one will give a couple of fps performance in the new ark, no more, all the problems rest on the power of the video card, because the game is absolutely not optimized and is full of graphic bugs and errors

[Slickzter]

its NOT the cpu being to weak, i run a ryz 5 3600 32gb with a 3070ti all epic in 2k @ 165hz, no issues. Until nividia updated their drivers, the new one ending .99 is not working on alot of 30 series video cards, its on multiple forums of the issues.. Your gonna hafta download the previous video card driver. Then ripout the old driver. start up the new driver, in custom mode, and do a clean install.. Edit i didnt see the 4070, but id bet its the same thing.

[Jon]

Originally posted by Ave:

game is badly optimized.

you could wait until they upgrade to 5.4 and hope that fixes performance abit.


*Edit* Please keep in mind that ASA is just ASE copy pasted in unreal 5.2 with very limited amount of work done.

When developers think about updating the graphics engine to version 5.4, Epic Games will have already released version Unreal Engine 6.0 Hahaha!

[Jon]

Originally posted by Slickzter:

its NOT the cpu being to weak, i run a ryz 5 3600 32gb with a 3070ti all epic in 2k @ 165hz, no issues. Until nividia updated their drivers, the new one ending .99 is not working on alot of 30 series video cards, its on multiple forums of the issues.. Your gonna hafta download the previous video card driver. Then ripout the old driver. start up the new driver, in custom mode, and do a clean install.. Edit i didnt see the 4070, but id bet its the same thing.

My system is similar to yours, I have a Ryzen 5 3600 OC in 4.45Ghz All Cores with 32GB ram 4X8 Dimms at 3600Mhz CL16 and a 3080 10GB GPU 2Ghz Core and Mem 21.6Ghz. My screen is an LG 4K 120Hz Oled, practically I have to always use DLSS, especially on the ASA. Even with a system like mine, trying to play with DLSS Performance against native 4K will only give me a 15 fps boost, I'll go from 25-30 fps in native 4K to 40 fps with Dlss Performance, upscaling from FullHD to 4K, which I already not very good for a 42 Inch screen. Playing in Low/Medium Graphics Settings.

Unreal Engine games are famous for using a lot of RAM speed, I did what I could to maximize the speed of my memory as best as possible with my current processor, the game's processing itself doesn't have as heavy a load as other games , for example Helldivers 2.

Unreal Engine is famous for taking better advantage of memory speed and processor bandwidth and latency with memories.

I can play Fortnite with High general settings and High Lumen RayTracing Hardware with Nanite and DLSS 4K Performance above 80FPS ranging from 90 to 100FPS.

[Automatic12pro]

If you haven't already enable rBar in bios (should already be enabled) and via Nvidia profile inspector in windows. This should add 10-20+ FPS. There's youtube videos on how to do this if unfamiliar.

Use MSI Afterburner and apply a curve optimized OC. I have a 4090, 7900x CPU, and 64GB 6000 Mhz CL30 RAM and OC to resolve stuttering. I also use the game overlay to compare CPU vs. GPU usage. Ideally your GPU should be between %90-%99. Below %75 likely indicates a bottleneck. My system is typically at %95+ GPU, %25 CPU, ~30GB RAM usage.


You may also want to consider a EXPO I or Expo II profile in your bios for full memory utilization if you haven't already. Id research what is best for your system.

My MB also allowed for AI OC of the CPU which is the lazy mans way to OC but I'm not looking to hit any benchmark leaderboards

Also used this guide to update Ark dlss files
https://www.reddit.com/r/ArkSurvivalAscended/comments/1d125cf/asa_rtx4080_performance_tweaks_to_maintain_visual/

Last when testing game performance, reset the graphics to default in the main menu and tweak from there then go to the tab with the dlss settings and make sure scale is at %100 after tweaking those settings. For my setup I get a lot more weird flashing if not at 100.

[bullmeister01]

You don't say but are you running it off a hard drive or SSD? That makes the single biggest difference with stuttering problems. I'm running the game on an SSD with a 3070 and an Intel I5 10400 and with all high settings, dlss balance and all ray tracing turned on I get a solid 60+ fps in single player and 38-55 fps in non-dedicated co-op.

My son runs the same computer and settings and as the host of the non-dedicated sessions he averages around 40 fps.

Come winter I won't have to heat the bedroom. The computer keeps it toasty warm when I'm playing ARK Ascended.

[Jon]

Originally posted by bullmeister01:

You don't say but are you running it off a hard drive or SSD? That makes the single biggest difference with stuttering problems. I'm running the game on an SSD with a 3070 and an Intel I5 10400 and with all high settings, dlss balance and all ray tracing turned on I get a solid 60+ fps in single player and 38-55 fps in non-dedicated co-op.

My son runs the same computer and settings and as the host of the non-dedicated sessions he averages around 40 fps.

Come winter I won't have to heat the bedroom. The computer keeps it toasty warm when I'm playing ARK Ascended.

Well, for understanding, ARK currently does not have support for RayTracing, much less Hardware Lumen, it is just Software Lumen and a lot of poor optimization.
I mean, with the hardware we have nowadays, GPUs have built-in hardware to generate accelerated raytracing graphics in real time without losing much efficiency and performance, I mean, if ARK Ascended had Lumen Hardware it would be able to perform better for a large part of GPUs than Software Lumen.

An example of this is Fortnite, with Lumen Software Fortnite stutters a lot for me, despite also not having very good quality compared to Lumen Hardware when RayTracing is enabled in the game, the game simply works much better, the stuttering practically goes away and This gives me much better visual quality with performance equal to Lumen Software or even better!

[Jon]

What I mean is, if you could somehow test the performance of Ark Ascended with Lumen Hardware vs Lumen Software you would notice that what I'm saying makes sense, because current GPUs have better performance with this type of rendering it is even possible that Ark would work much nicer and perform better without randomly stuttering!
But as Ark Ascended is a great, open-world game and there is not so good optimization, currently Lumen Hardware would probably only cause insane memory leaks and crashes.

[Hocane]

Originally posted by Deep space:

Originally posted by Cillic:

lol 7800X3D is garbage 7800X is so much better

the processor is not of key importance for this game. Of my 10 cores 10900kf only 2 are used, while the video card 3090 Ti is constantly loaded at 99%. Changing the processor to a more productive one will give a couple of fps performance in the new ark, no more, all the problems rest on the power of the video card, because the game is absolutely not optimized and is full of graphic bugs and errors

Your gpu is supposed to go up and down in load if working correctly.
If it stays constant at 99 you are getting bottlenecked

[DarkHalls]

This game is actually so vram heavy. I think so many people are being bottlenecked without even realizing it.

Surpassing your graphics card vram limit can lead to a range of issues such as crashes, world not rendering, lower fps etc

I think you need an absolute minimum of 12 gb worth of vram in order to run this game fine.

If you have a mid range budget you should never buy nvidia, ever. Nvidia is for high enders.

I have a very high end pc and can legit not remember the last time my game crashed. I don't think this is the game's fault but your system. Play survival evolved and you''ll be fine because it's way less system heavy

[Ethan]

Originally posted by Mumble:

What do I even do now? I keep getting stutters, nothing works.
I respawned, stutters continued, put all graphics to the lowest, stutters continued.
I can't even record it cuz the stutters turn off the recording???
I wish I could refund it, but after 10 hours and several months of waiting for that awful company to optimize it I can't.
If anyone has a solution aside from uninstalling then please do so.

i run 4070 ti super and a I7-13700 and runs perfectly normal, even at high graphics 120+ fps