ARK: Survival Ascended

ARK: Survival Ascended

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Ichbin Dec 3, 2023 @ 5:09am
So, Adventure Packs...
Anyone else thinks its a recipe for disaster? If it was just skins, or gadgets, thats one thing. However, building parts, and new creatures? On the same map that everyone else has access to? Sounds kinda pay-to-win.

We all new this was coming, but I think this is a little too far. Then again, knowing WC, it may not even launch.
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LittleBallOfPurr Dec 3, 2023 @ 5:13am 
I dunno, previous DLC items just meant you needed the DLC to craft them, but could give/sell them to whoever you wanted.

You'll probably see all the items added for everyone through mods and custom maps too, so even the above scenario will only be on Officials.
Smoka95 Dec 3, 2023 @ 5:15am 
Originally posted by Ichbin:
Anyone else thinks its a recipe for disaster? If it was just skins, or gadgets, thats one thing. However, building parts, and new creatures? On the same map that everyone else has access to? Sounds kinda pay-to-win.

We all new this was coming, but I think this is a little too far. Then again, knowing WC, it may not even launch.
Because it is. ASA proved that they can sell this community anything and they are going for it.
Weeaboo Jones Dec 4, 2023 @ 3:22pm 
Did they say there would be new creatures with the adventure pack?
wildbill Dec 4, 2023 @ 3:27pm 
Originally posted by Weeaboo Jones:
Did they say there would be new creatures with the adventure pack?

No, the OP just made that up to make this seem like it really might be a problem. Favorite pastime here is to exaggerate the problem and then complain about it.

This pack is completely optional. I doubt there will be any advantage to owning it. There is a wagon in it, but most likely it will be more annoying to use than it will actually be useful.

I also doubt modders will be able to add this stuff if it is in a paid DLC. They have already removed several mods for violating whatever agreement you sign on to when you use CurseForge. Pretty sure you can't make mods to make their paid DLC useless.
AlphaboyZz Dec 4, 2023 @ 5:15pm 
Originally posted by wildbill:
Originally posted by Weeaboo Jones:
Did they say there would be new creatures with the adventure pack?

No, the OP just made that up to make this seem like it really might be a problem. Favorite pastime here is to exaggerate the problem and then complain about it.

This pack is completely optional. I doubt there will be any advantage to owning it. There is a wagon in it, but most likely it will be more annoying to use than it will actually be useful.

I also doubt modders will be able to add this stuff if it is in a paid DLC. They have already removed several mods for violating whatever agreement you sign on to when you use CurseForge. Pretty sure you can't make mods to make their paid DLC useless.

I am not sure about ASA but I know there were so many mods on ASE that would allow you access to DLC map only dinos and gear/structures while not being on the DLC map.
wildbill Dec 4, 2023 @ 5:31pm 
Originally posted by AlphaboyZz:
Originally posted by wildbill:

No, the OP just made that up to make this seem like it really might be a problem. Favorite pastime here is to exaggerate the problem and then complain about it.

This pack is completely optional. I doubt there will be any advantage to owning it. There is a wagon in it, but most likely it will be more annoying to use than it will actually be useful.

I also doubt modders will be able to add this stuff if it is in a paid DLC. They have already removed several mods for violating whatever agreement you sign on to when you use CurseForge. Pretty sure you can't make mods to make their paid DLC useless.

I am not sure about ASA but I know there were so many mods on ASE that would allow you access to DLC map only dinos and gear/structures while not being on the DLC map.

The game itself without the help of mods exposed most gear for the player, but behind a level requirement. Like net projectile that was only available after it was first released on Genesis. Some mods for ASA are making things like the net projectile available by porting it from ASE to ASA. That seems to be allowed because it will make its way into ASA eventually. Dinos in mods are also in game, but just maybe not on that particular map normally.

This new DLC has items that will never be on any map and are only available in the DLC. Most modders only add things they find in the devkit. Who knows if these items like the cowboy outfits will actually be in the devkit. I'm thinking they will not. This must be a new feature enabled by the use of CurseForge. If a modder has these items in their mod, it will only be because they stole them.

This new pack I think will be the first example of essentially a paid mod, but available from Wildcard. At least that is my guess as to how it will be packaged. We will have to wait and see.
AlphaboyZz Dec 4, 2023 @ 5:43pm 
Originally posted by wildbill:
Originally posted by AlphaboyZz:

I am not sure about ASA but I know there were so many mods on ASE that would allow you access to DLC map only dinos and gear/structures while not being on the DLC map.

The game itself without the help of mods exposed most gear for the player, but behind a level requirement. Like net projectile that was only available after it was first released on Genesis. Some mods for ASA are making things like the net projectile available by porting it from ASE to ASA. That seems to be allowed because it will make its way into ASA eventually. Dinos in mods are also in game, but just maybe not on that particular map normally.

This new DLC has items that will never be on any map and are only available in the DLC. Most modders only add things they find in the devkit. Who knows if these items like the cowboy outfits will actually be in the devkit. I'm thinking they will not. This must be a new feature enabled by the use of CurseForge. If a modder has these items in their mod, it will only be because they stole them.

This new pack I think will be the first example of essentially a paid mod, but available from Wildcard. At least that is my guess as to how it will be packaged. We will have to wait and see.

Yeah guess we will see how they add it. I would think it would need to be in the base game though so everyone had access to the files and could actually see the train and cowboy hat.
Sam Of Haywood Dec 4, 2023 @ 10:18pm 
all I heard was trains... I hope.... we can run over dino's with it....
ﮱﮔutex Dec 4, 2023 @ 11:07pm 
WC lost the plot with Unicorns, in a Dino game, but trains—what's next, a Walmart?
Onyx Wake Dec 4, 2023 @ 11:49pm 
These packs will be a bust, so WC will have to start charging for the DLC maps to make some money.
Last edited by Onyx Wake; Dec 4, 2023 @ 11:50pm
Ichbin Dec 5, 2023 @ 1:43am 
Originally posted by wildbill:
Originally posted by Weeaboo Jones:
Did they say there would be new creatures with the adventure pack?

No, the OP just made that up to make this seem like it really might be a problem. Favorite pastime here is to exaggerate the problem and then complain about it.

This pack is completely optional. I doubt there will be any advantage to owning it. There is a wagon in it, but most likely it will be more annoying to use than it will actually be useful.

I also doubt modders will be able to add this stuff if it is in a paid DLC. They have already removed several mods for violating whatever agreement you sign on to when you use CurseForge. Pretty sure you can't make mods to make their paid DLC useless.
You might want to re-listen to the stream.
Aeden Dec 5, 2023 @ 2:23am 
Originally posted by ﮱﮔutex:
WC lost the plot with Unicorns, in a Dino game, but trains—what's next, a Walmart?

In a scifi dino game featuring alien AI, mechs, and dragons.
Martin Dec 5, 2023 @ 2:25am 
When you lot grow up and discover that everyone wants for free for what you work and get paid for.. faces will be priceless. What a load of hypocrites.
Icarus Dec 5, 2023 @ 2:25am 
they alredy proved the player base wrong about asa
LittleBallOfPurr Dec 5, 2023 @ 4:15am 
Originally posted by ﮱﮔutex:
WC lost the plot with Unicorns, in a Dino game, but trains—what's next, a Walmart?

I used to have the same attitude about them 'ruining a dino game with all this tek' until someone asked me "What did you think the Obelisks were?" I didn't really have an answer to that and had to accept that it never was just a dinosaur game.
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Date Posted: Dec 3, 2023 @ 5:09am
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