Breeding what am I doing wrong?

[Implicitlee]

So I Tamed a 150 Male and 150 Female Megatherium, they both tamed at 224

The Male Tamed with
Health 6020.2
Stamina 2280.0
Oxygen 1550.8
Food 14620.2
Weight 1410.5
Melee 386.25
Movement 100.0
Torpidity 14380.5

The Female Tamed with
Health 6512.3
Stamina 1960.0
Oxygen 1161.0
Food 12899.9
Weight 1261.5
Melee 408.6
Movement 100.0
Torpidity 14380.5

I mated these together until I got a Male and Female with the best stats from both

I eventually (47 babies slain later) got a level 238 Female with

Health 6512.3
Stamina 2280.0
Oxygen 1550.8
Food 14620.2
Weight 1410.5
Melee 4408.6
Movement 124.0
Torpidity 18873.3

another 20 odd babies slain later I got a Male same stats

so I now have a matching pair of Male Female level 238 but every baby they have is coming out the exact same 238. I changed my settings so I can push babies quick to test and for 30 minutes having a baby nearly every 20 seconds they are all level 238 exact same stats. I know mutations are random, but have I broken something by having the exact same matching stats with same paternal and maternal ancestry ?

[GobboKirk]

Nah you're on the right track, 2 equal stat dinos will always give the same output unless there is a mutation.
So keep an eye out and there should be a 240 popping eventually.

[Implicitlee]

So if my 238 pair have a 240 baby that says +1 Maternal 0 paternal and it has a Health mutation and a foot color change it really has had 2 mutatons right and that could be a +1 Paternal that will catch up on the mutations later right.

For example once I get a a matching pair of Megatherium with 20 maternal and 20 Paternal mutations and say they are level 318 and then I have reach max right and cannot breed them any higher?

[GobboKirk]

Origineel geplaatst door Implicitlee:

So if my 238 pair have a 240 baby that says +1 Maternal 0 paternal and it has a Health mutation and a foot color change it really has had 2 mutatons right and that could be a +1 Paternal that will catch up on the mutations later right.

For example once I get a a matching pair of Megatherium with 20 maternal and 20 Paternal mutations and say they are level 318 and then I have reach max right and cannot breed them any higher?

I haven't tried in ASA, but you could go above the 20 cap in ASE, just half the odds basically, since you need the mutation to happen from the correct parent.
Basically short guide is having x number of females like in your case at 238.
Keep breeding until you get a male with +2 on the stat you want, say health, then use that one to keep breeding with the 238 females, rinse repeat until you're happy.

[GobboKirk]

But yeah +1 in say health would mean 2 more levels in health.

[Implicitlee]

I am getting plenty of mutations but what I am getting is say a Damage mutation AND a colour mutation, to save on wasted mutations should I discard any color mutations and stick with only stat?

[LittleBallOfPurr]

Origineel geplaatst door Implicitlee:

So if my 238 pair have a 240 baby that says +1 Maternal 0 paternal and it has a Health mutation and a foot color change it really has had 2 mutatons right and that could be a +1 Paternal that will catch up on the mutations later right.

For example once I get a a matching pair of Megatherium with 20 maternal and 20 Paternal mutations and say they are level 318 and then I have reach max right and cannot breed them any higher?

This advice is based on ASE experience, so please take it with a grain of salt as some things could have unknowingly changed.

Mutations give +2 to a stat plus a colour mutation, that's all just 1 mutation. In your case, it was triggered by the mother.

If this baby is male, when you breed it, the baby will show 1 Paternal Mutation, if it's female and you breed it, it will show 1 Maternal Mutation.

20 mutations on the parental line stops that adult being able to trigger a mutation, but it's not the cap of mutations that can be on that line. The other parent can still trigger mutations.

If you have a clean mother, 0 Maternal Mutations, and a mutation line father, 20 Paternal Mutations, the mother can still trigger the baby to have a mutation, the father can no longer. If this baby is male, when you breed it, it will show on the offspring as 0 Maternal Mutations and 21 Paternal Mutations.

This is really important as it shows that by keeping one side clean, you can continue to trigger new mutations. This is why it's best always keep the breeding females clean as you're building stats.

Keep the original 0 mutations father, if your baby comes out as female with a desired mutation, breed her with the 0 mutation father until you get a male, then use that to continue breeding with the 0 mutation mother.

This all allows you to go way beyond, actually reaching a mutation limit based on a completely different aspect. 255 is a stat limit, though you would never be able to apply Experience levels, so you want to stop at 254 for any stat you intend to level on the offspring.

[GobboKirk]

Origineel geplaatst door Implicitlee:

I am getting plenty of mutations but what I am getting is say a Damage mutation AND a colour mutation, to save on wasted mutations should I discard any color mutations and stick with only stat?

Normally you'll get both color and stat on the same mutation and it would still be +1
So just let the colors go where they go at this stage.

[Sam Of Haywood]

so does inbreeding not hurt mutations anymore like it apparently did" from some CC's I've watched back in the day" in ASE?

[GobboKirk]

Origineel geplaatst door Sam Of Haywood:

so does inbreeding not hurt mutations anymore like it apparently did" from some CC's I've watched back in the day" in ASE?

Inbreedng was never an issue in ASE, i've done stuff I am not proud of to many generations of dinos :P

[Sam Of Haywood]

Origineel geplaatst door GobboKirk:

Origineel geplaatst door Sam Of Haywood:

so does inbreeding not hurt mutations anymore like it apparently did" from some CC's I've watched back in the day" in ASE?

Inbreedng was never an issue in ASE, i've done stuff I am not proud of to many generations of dinos :P

good to know theres actually no debuff for inbreeding, I always thought it was a pain trying to go out and find new 150's or whatever decent high lvl new dino for breeding.

[GobboKirk]

Origineel geplaatst door Sam Of Haywood:

Origineel geplaatst door GobboKirk:

Inbreedng was never an issue in ASE, i've done stuff I am not proud of to many generations of dinos :P

good to know theres actually no debuff for inbreeding, I always thought it was a pain trying to go out and find new 150's or whatever decent high lvl new dino for breeding.

Yeah it is enough of a time sink already :)

[Implicitlee]

So I am breeding and am only taking the Female Mutations on Female Megatheriam so far I am at +9 Maternal mutations and the dinos are popping at level 258.. once I get a Female to 20 mutations then what do I do. because I tried mating a 258 female 9 mutations with a male 258 9 mutations and the baby was a 260 with the stats of 10 mutations but now says 10 paternal and 9 maternal gone form 9 to 19 mutations but not on the stats.